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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 7th May 2023 02:18
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Akmaltu lakum deenakum

If arabs would have worked towards remaining four qualities, things would have been different today.
Arabs stopped with imaan and ibaadat.
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 8th May 2023 07:18
Assalamualikum,

Brother , your love for TJ work is obvious , TJ is one of the effort of Islaah, if any person or group is not convinced to take part in TJ work its their choice.

Blaming whole Arabs without understanding the ground realities and with limited information is not wise act.

May ALLAH give us correct understanding of Dean and present situation of world. Ameen.





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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 8th May 2023 07:35
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I said Arabs boasted they posses strong tauheed/imaan/Aqaid and ibaadaat qualities and they stopped there.

If they had offered efforts to gain four qualities of

  • MU'AAMALAAT (Business dealing) ...
  • MU'AASHARAH (Social interaction) ...
  • AKHLAAQIYAAT (Good character) ..................
  • FEE SABILILLAH

things would have been different in Hijaaz.

I didn't discuss TJ here.
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 8th May 2023 07:56
Not All Arabs are Salafi ,

There are great numbers of Arabs who are from Ahle-Sunnah Wal Jamath
There are great numbers of Arabs who are involved in TJ works
There are great numbers of Arabs who are very pious and really worried about whats happening in this world.
There are great number of Arabs who have Better Akhlaaq better knowledge of Dean better willingness to sacrifice thier life for ALLAH .

Most of Above Arabs are hidden from Main stream media and They live mostly in unpopular cities of Saudi Arabia.
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 8th May 2023 08:19
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Mufakkir e islam says:
a muslim gains qualities in that order; tauheed, ibadaat, mauamilaath, muashirath, akhlaq, fee sabilillah.

The downfall starts in the reverse order.

So when there is fall in akhlaq, there is an alert..... society has placed its foot on first step towards irtidaad, 4 more steps to climb towards final irtidaad. Shaytaan says... "your society posses the best tauheed in the world".
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 8th May 2023 12:19
We read the history of developed countries.... It was their dedicated efforts of generations for centuries and they have attained a position, whatever they are today.

Arabs are economically strong today, for this position, their effort is zero.

It was Allah's gift, barakah in return for the contribution of their aslaaf.

Today they have discarded barakah, they want to grow the way others grew. They shall fail miserably, they may get few extra riyals/dinaars but that won't get them the satisfaction they had with barakah in their lives.
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 21st May 2023 08:04
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well said, brother, mashallah.
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2023 09:27
When we complained about salafi dominance in haramain. One scholar said, "if they were not here, Raudha mubarak would have been similar to Nizamuddin auliya dargah or Ajmer dargah. All other graves would have had similar fate, locks, threads tied on gates of graves.

Daily 4 hour session of kufriyah qawwali (bhardoe jholi, hasnain ka sadqa meri muraad bhardoe etc. ) near raudah mubarak would have been the norm and wholesale market of audio cassettes of these qawwal, these cassettes would have been taken by hajees to their countries as tabarruk;
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12 rabiul awwal?

The rawafidh in jannatul baqee?

Salafees may have negatives but they have positive contribution for deen.
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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2023 03:30
Salafism is the best route for present day Arabs, without a doubt.
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 20th May 2024 14:55
The latest we hear from Saudi is :
"Saudi swimwear fashion show".

It is their country, they are free to take decisions. But muslim world likes to hear from them "We are sacrificing deen for Riyals/Dollars/pounds, don't take deen from us"

This helps us to tell our children "saudi is no more a holy land". And advise our hajees and Zaaireen, mothamireen not to take deen from makkah aur madinah, rather, through their actions show "what deen is" to the locals.
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2024 14:15
To me Makkah and Madinah is not Saudi. Saudi is a western state. Makkah and Madinah are holy cities. We just have to go through Saudi to get to Makkah and Madinah.
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2024 15:03
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They want to exhibit their domination in haramain.

1. Deploying female guards in men's uniform in mataaf and at the doors of raudah shareef.
2. Briefing of haj security by female security officer, dressed in men's dress. She starts with Assalamu alaykum and the shuyookh return the salaam.
3. Chief medical officer in Mina/arafah/muzdalifah is a lady.
4. Allowing non-muslim ladies near masjid e nabavi

The list is growing.
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 24th May 2024 21:56
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people NAMED it TJ
The brother is making concern on how Arabs can come to the qualities of sahaba, complete deen is achieved be the way of following the sahaba and their qualities. Effort of sahaba is not one of the effort, that’s the only effort sahaba were doing.
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 25th May 2024 11:08
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Those words are valid to keep TJ sathees motivated, but should be quoted in TJ circle only.
Don't Exaggerate.

There are multiple ways to reform ummah. People are active in other groups.

Arabs may have their own ways to reform their community and to make them steadfast on deen.

I quote maulana saad here "Tabligh is not substitute for other movements and there is no substitute for tableeg".

If you feel TJ is solution for ummah's problems, get involved.
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