Either the bomber is shaheed or other visitors.

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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2023 14:28

Who is shaheed in Peshawar Tragedy?

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2023 14:49

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2023 15:11

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2023 15:12

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2023 16:03

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I can't satisfy the non-muslims and haters of Islam within our community with those ayahs.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2023 16:13

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Why do you have to satisfy them?
Who was the Shaheed in the Indian Riots or at Babri Masjid, The Muslim's or the Hindu's? What will your community people answer?

Whatever answer you give them, they cannot be satisfied if they don't believe in Allah!

Allah is Just and Fair. Leave it to Him.

The Innocent will get their reward, so much so that they would prefer to come back just to die again and the guilty will regret what they did for eternity. They will still not be satisfied because they are chasing the wrong thing.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2023 16:44

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1. Muslim killed non Muslims
2. Non-Muslim martyred Muslims
3. Muslim killed Muslims..... Why?

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2023 17:08

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2023 23:49

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Not the suicide bomber

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 1st February 2023 05:43

Neither of them. Only the "faujis" can be shaheed in Pakistan. Everyone else just dies.

Honestly though, we know for sure that the ones offering their prayers or who came with the intention to offer their prayers were in the path of Allah. So they are shaheed as far as we expect. As for the bomber, we don't know his intention. If he came with the intention of blowing up people for some cause to advance in this dunya, then he is not shaheed. If he came with the intention of advancing some cause for the ummah, then perhaps we label him misguided but with the right intention. Whatever happens to him in the akhirah or whatever his status is as a dead person, is up to Allah to decide and not something we should worry about.

The more important thing to consider here is that we are assuming the bomber would be a Muslim. With the kind of foreign agents circulating unabated in Pakistan or with the help of our own faasiq authorities, it would be much safer to assume that the bomber was not Muslim. In that case, we don't have anything good to report about his status, either as a dead person or in the akhirah

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 1st February 2023 06:14

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If he came with the intention of advancing some cause for the ummah,

Why innocent visitors to masjid have to be martyred for this cause. Are these victims not from Ummah?

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Maybe they were not so innocent. Maybe he was cleansing the Ummah of faasiqeen?

Seriously though, that's why I said we would consider him misguided then but would not know if his intention is accepted by Allah or not. So we have to avoid delving into it then because Allah will make His Own decision and he doesn't need our advice or our opinion on it.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 1st February 2023 07:59

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He is sure he his not faasiq. But innocent muslims can be faasiqeen? Astagfirullah....

His intention is clear,,,,, to murder muslims who were in masjid... these innocent muslims were there to offer salah, bow before the almighty. To offer their obligation.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 1st February 2023 11:36

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There are always 3 sides to every story.

Do you know what the definition of a Faasiq is?

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 1st February 2023 11:41

There are concentrated efforts to completely distinguish the function of Jihaad from this Ummah. I'm just putting that out there so you can ponder a bit and realize that, no sane Muslim would believe it's okay to harm others with out just cause. The brothers are trying to make you realize that not everything is so black and white.

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Either the bomber is shaheed or other visitors.

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