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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2022 05:33

Not caring is the way to go with the kuffar of today. They don't want any explanations that make sense about why the Taliban did what they did. Rather they are going to make noise about Islam and Taliban regardless of it. This is the definition of bughuz (grudge) against Islam. So any time that the Taliban or Muslims spend trying to explain it to them will appear as us wanting their approval which places us in an even weaker position in their eyes.

Indifference to the kuffar's point of view is going to sting them more than any logical explanation. Also, remember that this indifference was the hallmark of Mullah Omar's leadership of Taliban.

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2022 05:54

Mufti taqi usmani db has offered suggestions on this issue. It is available on twitter.

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2022 10:12

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is it a new statement or his old one in april? i had some liberals who tried 'proving' taliban are wrong by sharing an article in dawn paper which they claim mufti attacks taliban for banning educatio but if you read it he says politically it may harm them as west wont recognise them but no where did mufti say its islamically wrong or anything.

to be honest its mostly western muslims who are triggered and mostly the compassionate soft imams/duwaat who have issues with this issue

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2022 10:34

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Letter is from Ramadan
But it is relevant

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2022 20:45

Bismillah.

This is not the Middle Ages. Where Muslims can simply ignore the Propaganda. And take the attitude of let barking dogs bark.

The Challenges facing Afghanistan.

(1) There are brutal sanctions that have been imposed. Many people are facing extreme poverty and reports that parents are even going to the extent, of selling their organs to pay for living costs and medical treatment.

(2) Afghanistan is heavily reliant, on aid from the Gulf countries and international charities. Many international aid charities have already suspended operations.
Pressure will be applied on the Gulf Countries to cease giving Aid to Afghanistan.

(3) International trade is not done in the Afghan currency but Dollars. The Americans illegally seized and stole $8 Billion belonging to the Afghan Central Bank.

(4) Afghanistan is a country that is strongly based on first and foremost Ethnic, Tribal and Feudal clan loyalties.
Keeping all of them united is going to be difficult. The west and their allies are working day and night to work on these divisions and create and organise an
insurgency. With the promise that economically life will get better once the Taliban regime is gone.

Furthermore the Media network within Afghanistan Tolo News was setup with American money and also an investment by the international Zionist and media moghul Rupert Murdoch.

They have successfully propagated that the root cause of all the ills suffered by Afghans has been Pakistan. And that the Taliban are stooges of Pakistan. On the flipside they have also propogated that India is the greatest well wisher of Afghans. So you have a bizarre situation were Afghans curse Pakistan and praise Modi and BJP.
Taliban are not viewed as defenders of Islam but as agents of Pakistan.

(4). We have ill-educated Muslim activists and academics in the west mainly America and Canada calling for harsher penalties to be imposed on the regime in Afghanistan. Because of news headlines like this.
Banning of education.

(5) The so-called Progressive modernist Muslim brigade. Are taking full advantage of this propaganda to claim that this backward version of Islam has no place in the modern world. We need a reformation and for a more modern and tolerant Islam to take place. And they are getting strong recruits to their side. 30 years ago these groups even in the west were fringe. They are no longer fringe and they are also joining western liberals to call for sanctions on Muslim countries whose laws consider LGBT
a crime. Recently for example the Americans have threatened Indonesia with sanctions if they bring in a law that criminalises couples who live together outside wed-lock.

(5) These Progressives are not confined to the West but the western countries have worked hard. In recruiting media, journalists, and politicians in Muslim countries to lobby for this "progressive Islam". They are also engaged in propaganda against the Taliban and using policies like banning girls education to call for a liberal Islam.

In conclusion I am old enough to remember when many of these Afghan civilians celebrated the first time Taliban regime was overthrown.
Mainly due to the difficulties they were facing under the sanctions at that time. Taliban might hold firm and defiant in the face of sanctions but to think the general population will do the same is extremely naive.

Finally all this propoganda has nothing to do with education. Billions of Dollars worth of Mineral resources have been discovered in Afghanistan. The Americans and their corporations were unable to exploit them. And they are making every effort to ensure that China, The Gulf Arab states and Russia are unable to do so either. By keeping Afghanistan destabilised.

Wars are no longer won on the battlefield but in the field of propaganda.

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 29th December 2022 11:21

Bismillah.

The O.I.C the organisation of Islamic countries has condemned. The leaders of this organisation Saudi and U.A.E. are doing the bidding of their western masters. Also point to note both previously vetoed any condemnation of Indian genocide in Kashmir and Chinese genocide of Uyghurs.

“The Ministry of Foreign Affairs expresses the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia’s astonishment and regret at the decision of the Afghan caretaker government to deny Afghan girls the right to university education, and calls on it to reverse this decision,” read a statement issued Tuesday.

The United Arab Emirates said the ban on university attendance by women and “earlier bans on girls from accessing secondary education violate fundamental human rights, contravene the teachings of Islam and must be swiftly reversed.”

Source Voice Of America.

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 29th December 2022 11:31

America is negotiating deals with members of toppled puppet government.

www.voanews.com/a/frustrated-with-the-taliban-us-official...

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 30th December 2022 14:19

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I think their move to ban women from higher education isn't justified at all. They are failing to understand that education is a must for both Muslim men and women. They could ban coeducation but surely not education for women when they study without boys being around like in a coeducational environment. I think the coeducation of both men and women should not be allowed but they have no right to take a move that bars access women from the education which is also Islamically no encouraged. Islam doesn't allow it rather encourages women education equally as it does for men.

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 30th December 2022 14:26

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Bismillah.

Unfortunately all Universities are co-educational. Country has sanctions imposed on it and because of that the Taliban does not have money to set up, female only Universities.

The situation is more complex then that... If you google "how C.I.A. and F.B.I. recruits foreign students". You will find plenty of articles and their programmes of cultural subversion.

And this has been done for decades but alot more in recent years. In a nutshell one of their strategies is to use universities to promote western liberalism, and liberal ideologies from LGBT to Feminism, Secularism, Atheism, Hedonism etc. And an aversion to religion amongst the students. They also have professors in these Universities working to these ends. Considering Afghanistan was under De-Facto American rule for 20 years. These places have been heavily fortified against religion.

In Egypt the whole rebellion against Morsi was led by students, using social media and social network campaign of propaganda. I believe there was a programme on Channel 4 News. Here in U.K. on this students were recruited by the Americans given propaganda training in order to orchestrate the rebellion.

Same is the case of the so-called Hijab protests in Iran. It is western orchestrated but student led campaign.

The situation is not Black and White that is education vs no-education. But a campaign on one side to use Universities to promote immmorality and the other side to prevent it.

And this is interlocked with the propaganda narrative of "Islam oppresses women." If one looks in to history this narrative really came to the fore during anti-colonial movements in the muslims world against western colonial rule.

The Western countries realised in order to destroy Islam you need to promote liberalism and immorality and immodesty amongst the Women.
Once the Women lose their Haya and men lose their Ghayrah then Islam as an ideological force will no longer represent a challenge.

As for having seperate classes and rules of modesty in place in universities the Taliban did put them in place. Many of the students were refusing to obey those rules and being encouraged by professors to disobey them. Thats what led to the present situation.

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 30th December 2022 14:46

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Can you provide just 1 ayah hadith or scholar (pre modernity/colonisation) who said its fard or wajib or even mustahab for women to learn and take up secular education?

Take your time

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 31st December 2022 09:01

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Exactly what I was about to ask. One ayat or hadith where it is said that "education" is compulsory. Not just for women, for even men. If something is there, it will have nothing to do with what we call "education" in these times today.

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 31st December 2022 09:26

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Your message is that pious must oppose secular education for muslim ladies.

Then pious must live in jungles. Leave mumbai, delhi, karachi, london, new york and live in seclusion.

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 31st December 2022 10:23

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I take it English is not your first language. Re read my post. Also most sahaba barely knew anything about secular subjects did they live in jungles?

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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 31st December 2022 10:37

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Today is 7 Jumada II, 1444 AH

Things changed from Hazrath Umar RA to Hazrat Usman RA's period.

We are presenting Islam to our own 95% muslims. May be, may be, may be... we are presenting a bad picture of islam to our own muslim brothers and sisters.

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 31st December 2022 10:39

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I use english only on internet. And during islamic discussion on muftisays.

I am urdu speaking muslim.

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