Taliban Suspend Higher Education for women.

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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd December 2022 14:55

Bismillah.

The Taliban have banned all Higher Education for women. Until further notice. Not sure what the thinking behind this. But I suppose we back to the 1990’s even Taliban supporters and well wishers are against such moves. Probably only a matter of time before an internal insurgency against Taliban rule gains momentum.

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd December 2022 15:39

In previous interviews about secondary schooling, the Taliban have stressed that they do not have the infrastructure at the moment and will reopen as per the shariah would dictate. We must assume that the case is the same with the Uni's and inshaAllah, this will just be closed for a short period.

People forget that women hold a very important position in educating the children and further education is required for women to become doctors etc.

The Muslim's owe their Islamic education to our Mother Aisha رضي الله عنه. We have learnt much of our Deen through her. So for anyone to assume that Islam doesn't allow education for females is grossly wrong.

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd December 2022 16:03

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Bismillah.

With the draconian sanctions imposed on Afghanistan. Dont see how they will be able to develop an infrastructure.

From what I know they are only functioning because of financial support from the Gulf states. Only matter of time when pressure is applied on those states to cut of funding.

In anycase in my opinion the methodology outlined by Shaykh Hassan Al Banna in Egypt. In the original version of the Ikwan. Had a greater foresight.

That vision was that although the general population are muslim. They have little understanding of the deen and majority of population are nominal muslims at best. The forces of colonialism and secularism have eroded that understanding.

And to counter that we need to spend first 13 years of any rule in doing Dawah increasing Love and practice of the Deen amongst the masses.

Shaykh Hassan Al Banna was assasinated the group was banned and alternately allowed to operate and then banned. The original methodology and structure and constitution became so diluted that most of the original methodology ceased to exist.

With a population like Afghanistan with limited knowledge, all they know is under previous regime we had ease and now we have hardship.

Under previous regime everyday goods were cheaper and now they are unaffordable.

How ever this is all based on my limited understanding.

And ALLAH knows best.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd December 2022 04:04

We need to hear their side of the story before we jump guns. There is nothing wrong with Education for women as long as it stays within the boundaries of Sharia

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd December 2022 06:14

They have banned women from Universities because they were not following the Sharaee dress code.

Regardless, though. While education about what is going to happen to us after death and how to prepare for it is something that is essential for both men and women, this "education" has no purpose other than to create revolt against Allah, parents, etc. in the hearts of young people. So for me it's not a question why did the Taliban stop women from acquiring it. It is more a question of why let men's mind be littered with this filth.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 24th December 2022 12:29

I read response to this from a twitter handler

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 24th December 2022 16:38

Bismillah.

The Western countries are doing their best to destabilise Afghanistan. And create momentum within Afghanistan for a rebellion.

Like they did with Morsi in Egypt.

If the Taliban have legitimate security reasons and safety of students at the heart of their reasoning. Then they should convey that when making such decrees.

Looking at Social Media even those muslims who normally campaign on Islamic issues and write on oppression of muslims in Palestine, Kashmir, Uyghurs etc. Are now propagating against the Taliban.

The pen as they say is mightier then the sword. Words are more powerfull
then bombs.

Taliban you think would have learnt these lessons from the previous rule.

That time round for example they also made keeping of a beard compulsory for men. And when their regime fell we had people rejoicing and waiting in line at barbers in their hundreds to have their beards shaved.

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 24th December 2022 16:40

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So only education of the akhirah is essential and any worldly education has no relevance...!

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 25th December 2022 14:37

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With all due respect this is utter nonsense. Surprised you are spewing this liberalism and feminists rubbish. Our mother's رضي الله عنه parted with sacred knowledge not secular.

Where in islam does it say its fard for women to go uni and seek secular knowledge. This is a perfect example of hadith of obeying leader. They taken a decision knowing the ground situation yet here we are in uk saying we know better. We complain west is arrogant bt so are western Muslims

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 25th December 2022 15:48

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You have misinterpreted what I'm saying.

Nothing to do with secular education per say.

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 25th December 2022 17:36

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Bismillah.

The real issue here is the Taliban issueing decrees, without elaborating or offering explanation, as to why they have taken the measures they have.

The fact is for the Taliban even if there is even a 1% chance. That female students could be sexually assaulted or abused or taken advantage of. Then that is 1 too many. The honour of a muslim woman is more important then any degree. And they the Taliban feel they have a duty to protect the honour of those female students and provide a safe environment to be educated.

Comparatively studies in America show 1 in 4 women. Are sexually assaulted on University campuses in the United States. And if we look at women who are not sexually Assaulted but harassed then the statistics will be even higher.

What is being waged here is a propoganda war. And Taliban need to convey and counter this with facts and some home truths to their accusers in the west. And the muslims living in the west should not blindly accept what ever propaganda the west churns out. As we have seen by these muslims activists in the west. In particular North America.

Furthermore the biggest threat to the lives and well being of Women and children in Afghanistan is the barbaric and genocidal sanctions imposed on the country.

As for the rest women in Afghanistan are needed in certain fields. The Taliban themselves acknowledge especially in fields like medicine. We cannot male Gynaecologists examining and treating female patients.

We have had women of great learning and piety in our past. To give just one example Queen Zubaidah. The wife of Harun Ar Rashid was an expert in several differen fields. She had supplemented her religious learning with mastery in Astronomy, Poetry, Mathmatics and Civil Engineering.

And she designed and organised the greatest Civil Engineering project of its time. A water well and canal project from Iraq to Makkah so that those taking the journey of Hajj and Umrah would have an abundant supply of water.

Despite living fairly ostentatious life she was also known for her great piety. For example she hired young women poor backgrounds to recite the Quran through out the day. So she could here its recitation no matter where she was in her palace. She was known for her charity her compassion for the Quran and deep Love for ALLAH and His Messenger (saw)

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The issue is not whether women should be educated in worldly sciences , but the issue is a academic system of education that is divorced from sacred learning.
A combination of both is needed in every education system.

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 25th December 2022 23:08

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Apologies if I have misunderstood.
It's just iv been dealing with alot of fools who complaining for no reason.

It's true taliban maybe have given or elaborated why they have done this but so what. Why are so many Muslims getting excited and inciting rebellion or even encouraging kuffar to go and attack again.

At most women goin unis us mubah, so they've not gone and made fard/waajib/sunnah into a haram

Curriculum unfortunately is western and I strongly advise listening to brother Daniel haqiqatou talks on women education and feminism. They are strongly linked

As for hadith about knowledge no muslim worth their salt has ever interpreted this as secular knowledge.

Finally they not banned women from knowledge but uni. Maybe once unis situation changes they will resume or make it online but even if they don't It's really not an issue that concerns us and certainly not criticising them. They got ulema and unlike us know the reality there. I saw a video today from Afghanistan uni. Teacher told girl remove hijab because teachers are like mahrams.

Is exposing all this fitna worth it just for non beneficial knowledge. Maybe if usa released funds they will hav money to fund but atm 15m Afghans dying of hunger yet we talking about silly unis. This is state of Muslims. Afghans dying no1 bats eyelid or pressures west to give back money but women banned from uni and were all suddenly salahudin ayyubis

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2022 02:23

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Bismillah.

Absolutely! And for that very reason we should be concerned.

This Lie that Taliban “Hates Women And Has Banned Women From Education For This Reason”

Is a false narrative that will be used to justify, even more draconian sanctions against Afghanistan. So yes Taliban need to buckle up and counter this narrative. Otherwise their people will suffer.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2022 12:07

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Only issue taliban have is PR, I think they can do better in terms of giving their reasons or delivering message although no matter what they do west and munafiq will have issues.

If they are invaded again or more sanctions placed on them I hope those so called Muslims attacking them now and encouraging it are raised with the oppressors.

It's pathetic seeing them getting so excited over some petty as this. If they had ounce of imaam and consistency I dare them to rebuke umar رضي الله عنه he did far worse than taliban. One bans unis and umar رضي الله عنه banned women from goin masjid. Will they use same arguments? How dare umar رضي الله عنه ban something rasoolullah (saw)

allowed or accuse him of choose culture/personal feelings over quran and sunnah. Instead if you ask these fools to condemn umar رضي الله عنه they come out with most amazing linguistic gymnasiums you'll ever see.

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 26th December 2022 12:46

They struggled to establish sharia rule , even if the whole world is against them they really don't care because they did not fight to please the world but to please ALLAH , for them ALLAH and his dean is more important than anything else.
Insha'Allah they will be victorious in their every Islamic decision and its matter of time World will witness as they already witness the victory after years of huge struggle.

Please read below detailed fatwa about women attending universities
islamqa.org/hanafi/muftionline/112862/women-attending-uni...

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