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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 21st September 2020 10:49
Why has Maulana Salman Nadvi changed.

May be some 10 years back I had listened to Maualana Salman Nadvi in his 2 or 3 sessions. His bayan were very informative and encouraging. That time he didn’t deviate from the general principles (usools) followed by Ahlussunnah, Deoband and Jamhoor Ulema.

He was in news for his bitter attitude against KSA regime. He argued with Indian supporters of the regime. Once he called these Indian supporters of KSA regime for Mubahila. And at the scheduled time of Mubahila he was present at the venue. (Mubahila is; both parties have to individually declare that I shall be dead if I am wrong in the particular issue).

Now….. is he hijacked?

or

is he overdoing things?

What went wrong with him.

Can members shed light on this. If I have to do this myself, I have to hear to his multiple bayans, I fear doing that.
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 21st September 2020 11:06
I doubt many people know much about him on here to answer your question. My only guess is that he is doing qadha for his congratulatory letter to baghdadi.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 21st September 2020 12:10
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Since you have guessed. If you allow me to guess, I think; in his junoon (rage) against KSA regime, he is doing this. He wants to unite every group against the present KSA regime.

In his clarification speech he has violently stressed on this.

Unfortunately he is doing this alone, he must have placed senior scholars or a guiding group above him to guide him. That would have helped him in correcting him when he erred.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 21st September 2020 13:07
But why extend his buguz for the KSA regime to the esteemed Sahaba رضي الله عنهم? Surely, that's the utmost stupidity.
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 21st September 2020 13:30
Could be:

He is using his Hussaini lineage to get closer to shia. I guess, he is claiming, we don't agree with banu Umaiyyah's high-handedness and misuse of power, but we hate your tabarrah majalis on khulafa-e-rashideen, ummahatul momineen and other sahabah.

But Ahlusunnah know that history will be repeated again; they will do 'taqiyyah' and as usual maulana will be back stabbed.
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 21st September 2020 13:38
Maulana has rightly concluded that Israel can only be counted by a united Muslim front. For this unity, the Shia Sunni divide is the biggest obstacle. In his zeal to bring together Shia and Sunni, he unfortunately faltered. If he had the support and guidance of his seniors, his errors could be rectified. Unfortunately there are forces in Nadwa as there are forces in all Muslim institutions that work to sow discord among people of Haqq.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 21st September 2020 13:54
Speculation will only go against ourselves, better to avoid.

Someone made an error, correct it. Educate the people of the error. If forgiveness is seeked, let those people know that too. Don't repeat the error!

Habitual errors? Then warn others to stay away and not get defensive.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 21st September 2020 14:04
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So you are blaming others in nadwa and not him. Babri masjid, AIMPLB, Jamiat, Deoband, Maulana Rabe'.... Who hasn't he attacked but yh he's the victim. Bole to kya bole wah salman nadvi wah
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 21st September 2020 14:32
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But the purpose of this thread is “why is maulana doing this?”

He was a big asset for Ahlusunnah and deoband.

We want him to get reformed and back with the main stream ahlusunnah.

For reformation, we need to know the real cause, but we are dealing with symptoms. If the real cause is known, we can assure him that we are with him in his genuine concern. And let us work for that cause in a better way. Of course without deviating from our principles.
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 21st September 2020 16:05
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and i responded to this post

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If he had the support and guidance of his seniors, his errors could be rectified. Unfortunately there are forces in Nadwa as there are forces in all Muslim institutions that work to sow discord among people of Haqq.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd September 2020 11:11

Halalified YouTube Audio

Authorizer Edit: Audio only
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd September 2020 11:38
If we disagree with Maulana's position, then why post further clips to highlight his errors? Also the clips are in Urdu, so without translation these clips are of little use to most members of this forum. Also, it is a forum rule that posts must be in English, or accompanied by English translations.
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd September 2020 11:48
Those users that have commented on both threads do understand urdu. Some are trying to create an impression that he has retracted all his statements. His errors shall not be brushed under the carpet.
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd September 2020 13:04
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I felt, I should not have heard this audio. Maulana Salman Nadvi is going to the extent of calling a Hasan Gareeb Hadith as Maudhu hadeeth. He may try to prove himself right by quoting from muhadditeen who have called this hadith a maudhu.

So why this extremism.
We are working on the symptoms. He may repeat again with terrible ghuloo. More confusion for innocent minds.

Why he is doing this. My request to senior ulema, work on this.
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd September 2020 15:59
برصغیر پاک و ہند و بنگلہ دیش کے علماء کرام کی خدمت میں ایک طالب علمانہ گذارش خلیل الرحمن سجاد نعمانی

Khalil-ur-Rehman Sajjad Nomani, a student petition in the service of the scholars of the subcontinent, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh.

youtu.be/sA5o7jXQtaE

Antidote for you saad after listening to salman nadwi
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