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#301 [Permalink] Posted on 13th May 2025 22:17

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Doesn't apply to stealth jet fighters.

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#302 [Permalink] Posted on 13th May 2025 22:43

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Ok it was France and their technology at fault. Not pointing fingers at your beloved mushrik air force. Happy?

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#303 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 12:36

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IAF Rafale did not have bvr missiles, they were laden with air to ground missiles to hit terrorist targets only, thats what got them off guard. India stated targets were non military, they in effect were working with 1 hand tied back. Once the PAF fired bvr missiles, they turned quickly and were out of range.

Modi was seriously peeved at India having to declare ceasefire, he really wanted to hit as many PAF bases as possible, the PAF bases that were hit are now using their higways as emergency runways as major damage was caused.

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The four-day military clash between India and Pakistan was the most expansive fighting in half a century between the two nuclear-armed countries, with the skies lighting up night after night along the vast boundary dividing them and deep inside their territories.

Alongside that shooting war, the two sides also waged an information war. As both countries used hundreds of drones and missiles to test each other’s air defenses and deliver hits on military facilities, they claimed expansive accounts of severe blows inflicted on the enemy.

But an examination of satellite imagery indicates that while the attacks were widespread, the damage was far more contained than claimed — and mostly inflicted by India on Pakistani facilities. In a new age of high-tech warfare, which has quickly reshaped the nature of South Asia’s most protracted conflict, verified strikes launched against both sides appeared to be precise.

Pakistani officials, according to state media, said their forces had “destroyed” India’s Udhampur air base. The family of one Indian soldier has confirmed his death on the base. But an image from May 12 does not appear to show damage.

The Indian military said it had particularly targeted the runways and other facilities at some of Pakistan’s key air bases. Satellite images showed the damage. On May 10, Pakistan issued a notice for Rahim Yar Khan air base saying that the runway was not operational.

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/05/14/world/asia/india-p...

Evidence shows whist PAF had initial air success, the resulting exchange showed the missile superiority of India with direct hits on PAF airbases inc the airbase close to Pakistan's nuclear facility, which was a clear message to Pakistan.

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#304 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 22:23

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#305 [Permalink] Posted on 14th May 2025 23:10

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"India was simply targetting Terrorists."
"India had one hand tied behind its back."
Indian jets had no BVR missiles but they quickly managed to evade Pak missiles."

All propaganda.
Or they are simply stupid,
Invaded a sovereign country to attack civilians and military bases.

But decided to fight with one hand behind their back
Went into combat Zone but did not equip themselves with BVR missiles.

And the Zionist NYT just repeating the propaganda claims of the Indian media, just like they have been doing for Israel for the last 18 months.

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#306 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2025 10:38

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My post is unanswered:

Is Kashmiri Azaadi worth it. Major damage on both sides of the border. Possibility of triggering a nuclear conflict.

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#307 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2025 10:49

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Rasulallah (ﷺ) swore by Allah (سبحانه و تعالى) that the sanctity of the Muslims, their wealth and their blood is greater than that of the Ka'bah.

The Taliban gave up their country to protect the honour of 1 Muslim man who was innocent in their eyes!

Constant rapes, murder and so on is going on daily in Kashmir according to reports, all becuase the victims are helpless Muslims.

So, If I were to respond, I would say the freedom of the Kashmiri people is a must!

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#308 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2025 11:05

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Persecution of kashmiris started after azaadi movement took militancy path in 90's. Am I right?

Till then there were no major incidents. Also 2004 to 2014, kashmir was relatively calm. Large inflow of tourist was witnessed during this period.

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#309 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2025 11:20

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Allah knows best when they started. However, I recall hearing terrible things happening to the people of Kashmir when I was a teen. The Kashimiri Muslims have been calling out to the Ummah long before that! And Allah knows best.

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#310 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2025 11:32

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This information is taken from net.

More explicitly, the roots of the insurgency are tied to a dispute over local autonomy. Democratic development was limited in Kashmir until the late 1970s, and by 1988, many of the democratic reforms provided by the Indian government had been reversed and non-violent channels for expressing discontent were limited, which caused a dramatic increase in support for insurgents advocating violent secession from India. In 1987, a disputed election held in the erstwhile state of Jammu and Kashmir created a catalyst for the insurgency when it resulted in some of the state's legislative assembly members forming armed insurgent groups. In July 1988, a series of demonstrations, strikes, and attacks on the Indian government effectively marked the beginning of the insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir, which escalated into the most severe security issue in India during the 1990s.

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#311 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2025 11:38

Kashmiri women rape by Indian soldiers
Kashmiri men killed and buried in unmarked graves by Indian soldiers

If india delivers justice for these two crimes then peace may pervail

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#312 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2025 11:45

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The discussion is........... it started with, when the Kashmiris took militancy path.

Also is the azaadi worth it, that major disaster takes place in both countries.
Or is it that, we want azaadi, let both countries get finished.

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#313 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2025 12:54

For those who want to call this a mere political conflict.

tribune.com.pk/story/2545838/bjp-minister-labels-indian-a...

It's never been political. It will always be a conflict between the spiritual progeny of Shaytan and the believers of Allah.

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#314 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2025 13:31

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Peace prevailed before militancy started in 1990

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#315 [Permalink] Posted on 15th May 2025 13:51

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Police Brutality and Arbitrary Detentions

While the full-scale militarization of Kashmir and widespread human rights abuses escalated in the 1990s, state repression by police and intelligence agencies was already well underway throughout the 1970s and 1980s. This period laid the groundwork for alienation and unrest, especially among Kashmiri youth and political activists.

a. Targeting of Political Opponents

Political parties advocating for greater autonomy or self-determination, such as Jamaat-e-Islami, were frequently targeted.

Activists and supporters were often detained without formal charges, especially during periods of heightened political activity.

Many were held under laws like the Public Safety Act (PSA) (introduced in 1978), which allowed detention without trial for up to two years. This law was widely criticized by human rights groups for its vague terms and potential for abuse.

b. Use of Torture and Coercive Interrogation

Detainees, especially youth suspected of anti-India sentiments, were frequently subjected to torture while in custody.

Methods reported during the 1980s included beatings, electric shocks, stress positions, and sleep deprivation.

Such practices were used to extract information or intimidate suspects and their communities into submission.

These acts were rarely investigated, and victims had little legal recourse.

c. Surveillance and Harassment

Police and intelligence services (such as the Intelligence Bureau) maintained close watch on neighborhoods known for political activism.

Families of political dissidents were harassed and sometimes pressured into informing on their relatives.

Even minor acts of dissent, such as participation in protests or possession of pamphlets, could lead to arrest or police visits.

d. Crackdowns on Religious and Student Groups

Religious schools and mosques associated with Jamaat-e-Islami were often raided.

University and college students suspected of anti-establishment views were especially vulnerable to surveillance and detention.

The government viewed these spaces as potential hotbeds of separatist ideology and moved to suppress them through administrative and police pressure.

e. Lack of Legal Oversight

The judiciary was often sidelined, and many detentions occurred without formal warrants or court supervision.

Lawyers representing political detainees faced intimidation, and many refused to take up such cases due to fear of reprisal.

In many cases, families were not informed of where their detained relatives were being held.

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Consequences

The use of state violence and arbitrary detention created a climate of fear and resentment.

These actions helped radicalize segments of the population, particularly the youth, who saw peaceful political participation as futile.

By the late 1980s, the lack of faith in democratic processes contributed directly to the outbreak of armed insurgency in 1989.

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