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#361 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2025 10:15
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You almost got a like for your post from me, then you went and made a false accusation!
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#362 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2025 10:21
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I am not too sure of his figures about the cost of a drone, or number of drones unleashed by Pakistan.
But khayr that Pakistan downed 4 jets is definitely accurate.
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#363 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2025 10:35
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I have had a very lengthy correspondence with The BBC in the past concerning their news coverage.
I know all their tricks, and no-where in the world is it accurate.
Give the devils it's due they are very good at biased reporting and do it with a better degree of sophistication, then anyone else.
Lying through omission, using emotive language in favour of one side, passive language for the grievances of the other side, emphasising we do not have independent verification when claims are made by one side but presenting the claims of the other side unchallenged. Humanising the dead of one side, just citing the numbers for the of the other side.

BBC has over the course of a hundred years, mastered the illusion of being impartial, whilst being heavily biased.
The BBC's international coverage is heavily influenced and dictated to by the Governments Foreign and commonwealth office, and British Intelligence, James Bond in real life is most likely called John, Frank, or Mark who works as a foreign correspondent.
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#364 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2025 11:09
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Just to cite a couple of examples.
The conflict in Kashmir is constantly reported as a territorial dispute between India and Pakistan. The Kashmiri people are never allowed into the discourse, and it is never mentioned that the dispute is between the Kashmiri people and India and the Indian occupation of their land.
The historical context never mentioned, the outstanding and unimplemented U.N. resolutions giving the Kashmiris the right to a vote of self determination is never mentioned. The mass Human rights violations and atrocities committed by the occupation forces and recorded by international human rights organisations.

If you complain, you will likely get a response along the following lines, " We are sorry that you have found our coverage to be inadequate, we appreciate that for people with specialist knowledge such as yourself, it may seem insufficient, but we are unable to give more detailed coverage due to time constraints, but it is simply not true that we have never covered the Kashmir dispute in-depth." They will then cite a transcript, of an obscure radio broadcast that they did from several years earlier that had a very limited audience. Or the BBC Urdu service which no one outside of Pakistan listens to as an alibi for themselves.

According to the BBC's own producers guidelines the word " terrorism" should not be used unless there is incontrovertible evidence of such an act. And it is known who carried out the act etc. What they will do is interview some analyst or some academic researcher of a university let them use it and not challenge the claim, case in point in the recent conflict they had an Indian professor in one of their articles calling India's attacks on civilian targets attacks on "Terrorist camps". No clarification that Pakistan has denied the targets were Terrorist camps nor did they state we do not have independent verification.
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#365 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2025 13:55
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Not saying they are 100%, but they are way more accurate than your social media stuff.
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#366 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2025 14:02
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I would agree about downing jets, however i would disagree on the level of damage caused by Pak missiles to Ind assets. Evidence show clearly more damage on PAK forward bases like on the strategic Rawalpindi nur khan base which demonstrates ind reach.

Pak will need to address this as their interception failed, i think its the 1st time in many years india struck so deep and it looks very likely all of PAK can be struck with missiles.

Everyone needs to be objective.
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#367 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2025 15:12
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Remember, it is proxy war between China and India.

India gives feedback to Russia, France and Israel. Pak gives feedback to China and partially US (for F16).

So there is scope of improvement and correcting the deficiencies on both sides.

Indian leaders have achieved full appreciation by their citizens and Pak military with pakistanis, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED on both sides.

Both have studied each others strengths, so no more conflicts in near future.
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#368 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2025 16:05
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'Both have studied each others strengths, so no more conflicts in near future.'

Countdown to next one, it normally happens every few years, this one featured drones with no fighter jets crossing into each others territory.
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#369 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2025 16:12
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Both the countries will shortly announce their highest civilian award to the person who mediated for ceasefire.
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#370 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2025 16:45
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Social media is awash with fake news and images, the images from india and pak is testament to that, that is something you people subscribe to.

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more accurate than your social media stuff.

When I heard of the Queens death from a source closely linked to the Royal family, and passed on the news within 25 minutes of the death with the family (official time of death was recorded at 3:10pm), they believed me because I wouldn't share the news if I didn't trust the source! (I was actually delayed in passing on the news)

Just saying. Not everything should be dismissed. Because it doesn't take long to be proven as fact! Use reliable sources, verify the news. Double check. See what the actual experts have to say etc etc
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#371 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd May 2025 18:45
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It was common knowledge at 3 30pm that she had died.

Social media is the worst fir news, its often filled with fake news when then gets regurgitated n passed on. India n pak conflict was a prime one.

Another example:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce81334je72o
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#372 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2025 10:14
Kashmir does not belong to the Indians or Pakistani's. It belongs to the Jews!!!!!!!

They will claim anything and everything just like the Hindu's

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Kashmir belongs to Jews.😏

Israeli media claim KASHMIR has Jewish roots.😃

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#373 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2025 19:58
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Stop posting rubbish.
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#374 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2025 20:52
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Stop trolling.
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#375 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd May 2025 22:34
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Did you know, they (Jews) claim that Musa عليه السلام went to Makkah and preformed Tawaf there too? Therefore they claim that they have a right over Makkah too! (That's why they tie the black cube on their heads and wrap a black strap around their arm seven times)

Maybe in your opinion, it's rubbish. But there is evidence from hadith that Musa عليه السلام performed salah at Masjid Nimrah at least.

Just because he عليه السلام went there, do you think the Muslims will just let them claim it?

The way the world is moving, eg believing the BBC, sympathetic towards the Mushrikoon, turning a blind eye towards the suffering of Muslims and just Blaming them for their actions. Pushing and peddling lies and forcing propaganda down the believers throats. Calling actions if this who care as futile etc etc. It might be rubbish to you but one man's rubbish is another man's treasure!

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