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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2020 01:10
Bismillah.

The following short talk on Fitnah Of Celebrity Scholars.

youtu.be/H4X-vA1n8A8

Shaykh Yasir Qadhi addresses the elephant in the room – the issue of celebrity scholars.

These scholars are an embodiment of Fitnah and we should vehemently discourage it.

The story of Umar ibn al khattab RA and Ubayy Ibn Ka’b RA is brought to the fore by Shaykh Yasir Qadhi and we realise what points should we keep in mind to keep this menace at bay.

We are advised to not link religion with one person. This is a big Fitnah. Islam is in no need for us. At time of fitnah, we should turn to Allah and follow the real Ulama instead of looking for the famed ones who may or may not have complete knowledge of all the things related to Islam.
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2020 01:20
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yasir qadhi is a celebrity scholar.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2020 01:23
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Yes he is...and he mentions himself and includes himself in that clip as well.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2020 01:34
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the guy is not even a real scholar he doesnt even follow a madhab
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2020 01:50
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Okay did we not go through this yesterday. You was claiming someone who does not follow a Sufi Tareeqa cannot be a Scholar.

Well Shaykh Ahmed Ibn Idrees
رحمة الله عليه founder of the Idreesiya Tariqah was a Sufi Scholar maybe you should ask your friends and associates which Madhab he followed.

Now if you wish to discuss what a Scholar is or not open a seperate thread.

This thread is about celebrity Scholars.
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2020 05:33
Yazeed bin Haroon, a student of Mu’aaz bin Jabal رضي الله عنه reports that whenever Mu’aaz رضي الله عنه would deliver a lesson or lecture he would commence by saying, “Allah Ta’ala is the Just King who decides all affairs. Destruction is for those who doubt this.” On one occasion, whilst sharing some advices with the people, Mu’aaz bin Jabal رضي الله عنه said: “Many trials will appear in the days to follow. Wealth will become abundant and the study of the Qur’aan will become widespread. The Believers and hypocrites, men and women, young and old, slaves and free people, all will independently study the Qur’aan and reach incorrect conclusions. Some people (aspiring for leadership) will begin to think within themselves, “What is wrong with the people? Why are they not following me whereas I have studied the Qur’aan?Perhaps they will follow me if I introduce something new (not supported by the Qur’aan and Sunnah).” (Mu’aaz رضي الله عنه  thereafter cautioned the people saying,) “Beware of such people who bring about innovations in Deen. Innovations in Deen are clear misguidance. I further warn you against the error of a wise man (righteous guided Aalim). For indeed, Shaitaan at times causes a wise person (righteous guided Aalim) to utter a word of misguidance and a hypocrite can utter a word of truth.” Yazeed says that I then asked Mu’aaz رضي الله عنه , “How will I be able to distinguish the misguidance uttered by a wise person (righteous guided Aalim) and the truth spoken by a hypocrite?” Mu’aaz رضي الله عنه  replied, “Yes undoubtedly, refrain from (following) such statements of the wise person (righteous guided Aalim) which when it is circulated among the people it becomes a target of objection (among the learned scholars). However, this should not divert you from him (righteous guided Aalim) for it is possible that he will retract. Furthermore, accept the truth whenever you hear it for indeed the truth is accompanied with noor (Divine light).” (Abu Dawood 2/632)
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 19th June 2020 21:52
Their celebrity status is not an indication of their insincerity, but more of a poor indictment on the massess. Indeed fame currupts some, but lets not tarnish all with the same brush.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 19th June 2020 22:47
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What would be the label of Imam Ghazali, Abu Hanifa, Imam Bukhari, Imam Ahmed and so on.

They were amazing (celebraties) in their own right!

People travelled far and wide to meet such personalities.
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 20th June 2020 00:38
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Thats a false equivalency the esteemed personalies you mentioned were not celebrity Scholars. The people that flocked to them were student of Knowledge and other Scholars.

The laypeople of those times flocked to the charismatic and dynamic speakers who travelled from place to place giving emotional and entertaining speeches, telling stories reciting poetry.

If you read Imam Abu Hanifas رحمة الله عليه
Biography you find that his Mother did not take him seriously as a Scholar. Whenever she wanted an answer to a religious question she would ask him to take her to a celebrity preacher of her time.

You can hear about that celebrity preacher in the following clip. No one even remembers his name now.
youtu.be/CRJDhu2Sxvg

Same thing happens these days In terms of Scholarship in America for example Shaykh Amin Kholwadia. Is not well known to the masses but as a research Scholar and academic he is in a different leauge to the well known Celebrity Scholars that the masses follow.

You will find the same in other countries if you go to Pakistan its not the great Scholars who are known for their Scholarship who the public follow. It is the charasmatic Preachers who sing their speeches from beginning to end, who recite poems and tell stories of the pious that are spiced up to arouse emotions in the listener. And their audio casesettes sell in the millions.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 20th June 2020 02:01
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Jzk, my post not meant to give the wrong message. I was in agreement with the quoted post and in agreement with yours.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 21st June 2020 02:11
The Azhar Nasser Guide on Becoming a ‘Celebrity Sheikh’

In a 21st century world, the average anglophone Muslim is sure to eventually encounter the contemporary surge in Islamic ‘religious entertainment.’ Such novel expressions of Western Muslim identity are quite interesting: a sprinkle of virtuous inquiry for knowledge intertwined with a load of attention-grabbing entertainment and generic self-help instruction. This Western Muslim yearning for some sense of connection to the Islamic tradition has facilitated the growth and proliferation of a variety of “educational” institutes with seemingly successful business models.

Though some good has definitely come from such endeavors, this Western Muslim cultural expression embodies many grave challenges and downfalls of potentially dangerous aftermaths that should perhaps push us to question and challenge this trend. Surely, such a pervasive phenomenon within the Muslim community would be worthy of further reflection and introspection. What better way to evaluate this phenomenon than to examine a live example in a contemporary context?

The man of the day is Azhar Nasser, a self-proclaimed “American Muslim scholar and community activist”. The rise of Azhar is a very interesting phenomenon that, if anything, would be an ideal case to further dissect upon addressing this phenomenon. On his Twitter account, Mr. Nasser has successfully amassed a modest following by virtue of his social media prowess.

Within less than five years on Twitter, Azhar was able to amass a modest following of over 130,000 people. The question that would immediately come to the minds of many is: how has he consolidated such a following while many counterparts of his have failed to do so? The answer to that question perhaps is an embodiment of everything wrong with the surge of this edutainment culture within our communities.

Read more at: www.islamicdiscourseinitiative.com/social-mechanics/the-a...
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