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#46 [Permalink] Posted on 18th April 2020 09:40
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Along with Islam’s Aqaid we have to present Islamic culture, the family system of Islam. The western culture is moving fast towards the declining path, we are witnessing this. The reason for this decline is; the family system has collapsed. The confidence, love/affection among husband and wife is erased. Many thinkers and philosophers are concerned; they are writing books on how to save the western society from total collapse. How to rebuild the love /affection and trust among family members, this was real enjoyment in life. If this exists, they will bear everything and live happily with empty stomach.

In our countries in the east, people hardly get food, but they live as if they are in heaven, why? there is love/trust among family members. They look at each other’s face and forget their starving and hardships.
But here (the west), they have all the resources, they have acquired, conquered and mastered many universal forces; But they could not bring change in their inner souls, could not change their homes into jannath.
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#47 [Permalink] Posted on 18th April 2020 10:04
Maulana Ali Mian Nadvi RA in other place advises us to build a society; the whole world must travel from far places to experience this real Islamic society. It must be a 8th wonder for them. An oasis.

Someone asked a scholar "Where is real Islam?"
Reply: "It is in books"
"Where are real muslims"
He pointed towards the muslims graveyard.
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#48 [Permalink] Posted on 18th April 2020 12:22
Robert F. Kennedy made a speech on March 18 1968, including the seminal passage below and sadly still true 52 years later!


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#49 [Permalink] Posted on 18th April 2020 15:55
A View on Western Representation of India


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"As an early essay on the firm observed, “a special reason for the founding of Asia Publishing House was to provide an authentic view of India – past and present, to the rest of the world”. For the long period of European rule had “produced a grossly distorted, frequently patronising, view of this large mass of humanity”, and of its history and culture. One of Jayasinghe’s aims was to correct the tendentious portraits of India by Western writers, “by publishing books by outstanding Indian scholars dealing with history, sociology, politics, law and other disciplines”.

Source : Sctoll
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#50 [Permalink] Posted on 19th April 2020 01:07
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Thats the one. It is from a ulema-only conference. He studied in Mauritania and spends most of his time working with Muslims in American prisons.
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#51 [Permalink] Posted on 19th April 2020 01:24
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Materialism in real practice? In the West? So you want examples in the West. Here are some in USA/Canada:
- Mortgages are considered unavoidable
- Masajid built using riba
- Salafi shaykhs running Islamic programs than baiting followers to buy their NLP / life coach courses run by Salafi shaykhs that cost $5000
- Nouman Ali Khan's masjid/mall complex in Texas and for-profit Bayyinah religious organization
- Endless renovation, expensive domes and minarets and LED TVs in the masajid all while ignoring real community problems
- Masajid infighting for political leadership
- Hajj scams
- Many Muslims in professions where they are close to riba (ie. banking)
- Islamic banking scams and according to a friend of mine, wine drinking at Islamic banking conferences
- Cash fundraising at the masajid with no accountability or receipt writing

So even the most religious give into materialism...as for the brothers who are not so practicing you will see them working in every field irregardless of riba...fancy purses, watches, shoes, cars...but in reality, it is often temporary buy that is refunded or returned and just for show.

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#52 [Permalink] Posted on 19th April 2020 07:59
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I repeat here again. We are not discussing about muqallids of the western culture. We are discussing about creators of the western culture. The real and pure western culture.
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#53 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2021 08:10
Bill and Melinda Gates, who for decades have overseen one of history's greatest fortunes and philanthropic operations, said they plan to divorce.

The announcement Monday that the couple is splitting after 27 years of marriage

"After a great deal of thought and a lot of work on our relationship, we have made the decision to end our marriage," the two said in a brief statement posted on Twitter. "We have raised three incredible children and built a foundation that works all over the world to enable all people to lead healthy, productive lives."

The pair command an estimated $146 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.



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#54 [Permalink] Posted on 4th May 2021 15:17
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In our view we cannot move forward together as a couple in the next stages of our lives;

Can someone please explain what more progress are they looking for?
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