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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 19th April 2020 08:25
Indians are getting are fooled similar to the way they got fooled through EVMs.

Indian Health minister says most of the cases positive for Corona are linked with Nizamuddin. Here is the criteria for linking with nizamuddin. There is no RTI to get the names of these nizamuddin linked patients.

On the basis of the list of 159 people who allegedly returned to Chhattisgarh from Nizamuddin's tablighi Jamaat Markaz, 108 petitioners are non-Muslims.

According to Singhdev- "Every person included in this list based on the number of cell phones in the location of Nizamuddin's mobile tower was active on those dates, our government has done a precautionary check because Corona is an infectious disease. These people include , Who must have gone to catch a train there, or passed by it. This extra caution of the government should be welcomed. "


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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 19th April 2020 19:13
www.news18.com/news/india/tablighis-law-abiding-and-apoli...

Tablighis Law-abiding and Apolitical, Problems May Arise if Treated Unfairly: British Historian


With a large number of coronavirus cases being traced to the Tablighi Jamaat gathering at Nizamuddin markaz in Delhi, there is much curiosity and controversy around the missionary organisation that was founded on the idea “Muslims, become Muslims”.

Followers of the missionary movement have been called irresponsible and unruly for the large gathering that took place in the national capital in mid-March. An FIR and charges under the stringent National Security Act (NSA) have been slapped against its leaders.


Even as senior members of the markaz (centre) tried to clarify their position and asked the administration de-congest the place by making proper arrangements for the large number of people in view of the lockdown and virus control measures, Muslim-bashing with Islamophobic hashtags have been trending over the last few days.

Several Muslims have also tried to distance themselves from the Tabligh, stating that the group doesn’t “represent the whole community”.

British historian and academic Francis Robinson, who specialises in South Asian and Islamic history, says the Tabligh is a law-abiding group and problems might arise if its members are treated unfairly.

In an exclusive interview with News18, Robinson, who received a CBE (Most Excellent Order of the British Empire) in 2006 for his services to higher education and his research into the history of Islam, spoke on the peripatetic believers functioning in the congregation.

The London University professor said the coronavirus outbreak has led to a halt in the Jamaat’s traditional way of functioning -- travelling in groups for missionary work.

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The global centre of Tabligh-e-Jammat at Nizamuddin markaz has turned into a hotspot for the coronavirus outbreak. How do you think the virus is going to impact the peripatetic believers who function in the congregation?


The first thing to remember is that the Tablighis are ordinary Muslims from different walks of life. If the state wishes to discourage people meeting in groups, they will suffer as other Muslims suffer. Indeed as other believers do.

Here, in the UK, church services have gone online as I believe also have Friday prayers for Muslims. It is the normal instinct of Sunni Muslims to obey the law of the land; I do not anticipate any difficulty here.

The one point at which the Tablighis will be affected is in their missionary work. Tablighis commit to doing so much Tabligh a year. This involves coming together in groups (Jamaats), usually of 10, and going out to preach. This activity will have to stop while the government restricts movement and assembly.

Overwhelming number of positive cases have been traced to the Tablighi gathering. With this, the social media was flooded with “Corona Jihad” and Islamophobic hashtags.

Unfortunately, in India, today, there are elements who will seize any excuse to attack Muslims.

The administration alleges the Tablighi Jamaat willfully disobeyed the notices served to them. On the other hand, representatives of the jamaat expressed their concerns as “citizens” of the country and extended their offer to cooperate. With this pandemic, were they caught between the faith and concerns of the world?

I know nothing of the details about the exchanges between the administration and the Tablighis in the Markaz. However, in principle I do not see the Tablighis caught between faith and worldly responsibilities. Have said earlier in the interview, Sunnis are generally minded to obey the law of the land, and I would expect them to do so in this case. This said, problems might arise if Tablighis felt they were being treated unfairly.

The Tablighi Jamaat came up in response to Shuddhi movement in India. How has it changed since then?

As far as I know, the Tabligh has not changed a great deal since the 1920s. This said, it is the most successful missionary organisation in the world with a presence in most of the places where Muslims live.

One change I am aware of is that initially all Tabligh messages were transmitted orally but over time, more and more messages have gone into print. Secondly, although, this has not to my knowledge been studied, as a historian, I find it unlikely that, as the Tabligh has established itself in different societies across the world, it did not make some adjustments to local circumstances.

Some Muslim voices also said, “Tabligh does not represent us”. How is Tabligh seen by the people of the same faith - Islam? Also how does it show Muslims are not monolith?


The Shias have no time for organisation at all. The Barelwis object to its attacks on inter-cessionary Sufism, which lies at the heart of their Islamic understandings. On the other hand, the Ahl-Hadith complain that it is not reformist enough. Moreover, they are suspicious of the way in which Tablighi elders arrogate authority to themselves as against that of the Quran and Hadith.

The Jamaat-e-Islami was initially supportive of the Tabligh, but has distanced itself from it because it realised the Tabligh did not share its ambition to establish an Islamic state, and secondly, it understood the Tabligh represented an increasingly strong competition.

There is lot of curiosity about its funding…

I am no expert on the funding of the Tablighi Jamaat, but I would be surprised if there was anything to be concerned about -- ‘foreign hand’. The jamaats of 10 that go on missions fund themselves. I don’t know how the markaz is funded, but I would expect it to be happening by contributions from members.

The Tabligh has been linked to terror incidents (Glasgow, London) in western countries. How do you see such incidents? Are they an aberration, a one of few cases or a growing trend, a cause to worry about?

I am aware that some Western intelligence agencies have come to regard the Tabligh as the threshold to radicalisation. This, however, seems to me more chance than outcome of Tablighi design. The Tabligh, as you will know, is resolutely apolitical. But this does not mean the impact of its missionary work cannot be felt in the political sphere.

So it is not impossible that an organisation that sets out to create good Muslims might under particular circumstances prepare some for jihadi activities. (However,) this is not Tablighi policy. This is the action of individuals who have had their desire to be saved on the Day of Judgement sharpened, and by their own assessment, and the influence of malign figures, have come to see terrorist action as a way of achieving that outcome.

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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 20th April 2020 16:43
کورونا وائرس: صحت یاب ہونے والوں سے خون کا عطیہ دینے کی اپیل


اب نظام الدین کو یاد کیا جائیگا۔
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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 20th April 2020 17:18
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Can you please post in English too.

Also, please do not put the burden upon others to translate.

If you require something to be translated, please communicate via PM.

Future posts may be removed

(Tweets etc from Ulama may stay but would be further benefitted with a translation)

Not everyone can read Urdu and not everyone is from the Indian subcontinent.

Can you imagine if members started paying in Gujarati, Arabic, Tamil with no translation, it would be pointless.
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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 20th April 2020 17:21
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Authorities request blood donation from brothers who got cured from infection of Corona Virus.

Now demand goes for Nizamuddin visitors.

Or the so called Corona Jihadis will be excluded from donating blood.
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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 21st April 2020 02:59
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I agree we should post in English because the forum caters to English speakers.

For the odd case where someone forgets, there is always Google translate and it does a passable job most times for short posts.
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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 21st April 2020 16:49
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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 6th May 2020 12:29
MashaAllah Hazratji has completed chilla but has decided to continue and complete 4 months.
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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 7th May 2020 15:42
www.ndtv.com/india-news/namaste-trump-event-spread-corona...

"Namaste Trump" Event Spread Coronavirus In Gujarat: State Congress

The Gujarat Congress on Wednesday alleged that the "Namaste Trump" event, organised by the state BJP government in Gujarat, on February 24 was responsible for the spread of coronavirus in the state.
State Congress President Amit Chavda said his party wants an independent probe by a Special Investigation Team (SIT) into this, and that they will approach the Gujarat High Court soon against government's "criminal negligence".

However, the state BJP unit dismissed the allegation as baseless, saying the event was organised well before the World Health Organisation (WHO) declared COVID-19 as a pandemic, and the first coronavirus case in the state was reported nearly a month after the event.

On February 24, US President Donald Trump along with Prime Minister Narendra Modi took part in a road show in Ahmedabad which was attended by thousands of people.

After the road show, the two leaders addressed a gathering of over one lakh people at the Motera cricket stadium, run by Gujarat Cricket Association (GCA).

Gujarat reported its first coronavirus cases on March 20, when samples of a man from Rajkot and a woman from Surat tested positive for the disease.

Mr Chavda in a video message said, "In January itself, WHO clearly said the coronavirus spreads from one person to another. It had asked all the countries to refrain from organising large gatherings. Despite such warning, "Namaste Trump" was planned for political gains and permission was also granted by the Gujarat government."

He alleged that the deadly coronavirus entered Gujarat and spread among people due to this mega event as thousands of foreigners came to Ahmedabad ahead of Donald Trump's visit.

"People were asked to stand shoulder to shoulder on the road to greet the leaders. Lakhs of people were brought to the stadium in buses. This triggered the spread of the virus. This event was not a mistake, but a criminal negligence. The "Namaste Trump" event was responsible for community transmission of the virus," Mr Chavda alleged.

"We will soon file a petition in the Gujarat High Court demanding a judicial inquiry in it by an SIT comprising field experts as its members. We will demand action against the government, GCA and the "Trump Abhivadan Samiti" (committee formed to organise the event) through this petition," he added.

However, Gujarat BJP spokesman Prashant Vala termed the allegations as "baseless".

"Amit Chavda needs to understand that before Trump visits any country, a US team conducts a thorough inspection of the areas well in advance to ensure there are no security and health related risks, such as viral infection. Without such clearance, Trump never visits any country," he said.

Moreover, coronavirus was not declared a pandemic by WHO when the "Namaste Teump" event took place, he said.

The event took place on February 24, and WHO declared COVID-19 a pandemic on March 11, he said.

"The first coronavirus cases in Gujarat was reported on March 20, almost a month after the event. Amit Chavda is making baseless allegations for vote bank politics," Mr Vala said.

Gujarat has so far reported 6,245 coronavirus cases and 368 deaths.
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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd June 2020 13:50
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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 24th June 2020 02:02
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Is this a statement of fact or is this intended to mock?
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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2020 13:12
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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2020 14:02
Most damage was done by the media during this "pandemic". Even in Pakistan they were trying to pin it on the Tablighi Jamaat conveniently ignoring the thousands of Shia pilgrims that actually started the wave of the virus by entering the country despite being infected. Also completely glossing over the irresponsible behavior of our government that allowed the infected to enter into the country in the first place, and then integrate into major urban centers.
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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd August 2020 15:50
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Listen last 10 mins.

He is the same man who made fun of shariah by compiling a book in 1995.

Today he is speaking for the oppressed.
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#45 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd August 2020 11:33
The above judgment was given by the Aurangabad bench of Bombay High Court.

Bombay High Court is one of the oldest High Courts of India. It is located in Mumbai, Maharashtra. Its jurisdiction covers the states of Maharashtra and Goa, and the Union Territory of Dadra and Nagar Haveli and Daman and Diu. The High Court has regional branches at Nagpur and Aurangabad in Maharashtra and Panaji, the capital of Goa. The decisions of this court can be appealed only to the Supreme Court of India.

The Supreme Court of India is the premier judicial court under the Constitution of India. It is the highest constitutional court, and has the power of judicial review. It is regarded as the most powerful public institution in India.
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