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#346 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2025 20:52

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Americans have imposed sanctions on the country. Sounds like fake news.

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#347 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2025 22:45

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U.S. government was sending $50 million worth of condoms to Gaza!

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#348 [Permalink] Posted on 26th November 2025 22:50

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Not entirely accurate! Sanctions are on:

Certain Taliban and Haqqani individuals which consists of individual Asset freezes and travel bans
Money from Ashraf Ghani era is also frozen which belongs to Central Bank of Afghanistan and here is Abdul Qahar Balkhi discussing that on CBS

However, these figures are accurate and upto date for the country and people of Afghanistan for humanitarian purposes.

Afghanistan under Taliban 2.0 are one of the highest recipients of US Foreign Aid

2021= 1.4 B US Dollars
2022= 1.4 B US Dollars
2023= 890 M US Dollars
2024= 760 M US Dollars

In fact, either in 2023 or 2024 Afghanistan was the 3rd highest recipient of US Foreign Aid behind Israel (1) and Egypt (2), I can't recall the exact year. Here is SIGAR report for 2025 . Here is Congress Report

Trump ended US Aid which affected the whole world including Afghanistan.

I would be pleased for you guys to do research and prove it wrong. If you prove that Afghanistan does not get Foreign Aid from US and others, I would be happy to retract this claim.

Remember that semantics don't count i.e. in 2024 Afghanistan got X instead of Y.

If you can't then its time for you guys to confront reality...

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#349 [Permalink] Posted on 27th November 2025 00:01

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These same people where claiming that HAMAS was stealing aid and food supplies. That was debunked.

But Khayr, looking at the reports it is claimed that the U.S. Assistance is meant for United Nations and Aid Agencies Humanitarian programmes.
U.S. has not been giving money directly to Taliban. And money is not meant for Taliban.

They are claiming Taliban is appropriating funds for their own benefits.
Assuming all this is true, how does that correlate with the Pakistanis being directly on the Payroll of the Americans. And acting as their puppets???

In anycase this is a report from Euro News
www.euronews.com/2025/08/14/taliban-denies-claims-in-us-r...

Furthermore this money is Afghan money in the first place, Biden stole $7 billion. And then said it would be split half going to 911 victims, despite Afghans having nothing to do with 911 and half being returned to Afghanistan as Humanitarian Aid.
Here is a report from Associated press.
apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-united-states-terro...

They are entitled to that money, the money that the Americans have stolen from the Afghanistan Central Bank far greater then what they have supposedly returned in donations, even that they have made up excuse and reneged on.

The accusation against Pakistan is that they are directly receiving funds to do Americas bidding. So it is a false equivalency.

In Conclusion ..American has not donated anything to Taliban.
Allegedly just returned some of the money they stole.

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#350 [Permalink] Posted on 27th November 2025 02:31

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The issue is not whether Americans stole from Afghanistan or not, they did from Afghanistan as well as from other lands.

The issue is also not whether XYZ in the past was a conspiracy or not.

The issue is this:

Taliban 2.0 has been receiving US (and other Foreign Aid), please provide evidence to debunk it OR accept it as truth.

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#351 [Permalink] Posted on 27th November 2025 09:06

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Very poor deflection that's not Aid money. If I took money from your bank account and gave back half, I would not be giving Aid to you.

If I stole money from your bank account and gave some to a charity in your neighbourhood, I would not be giving Aid to you.

The answer to your question is categoric no, they have not received any AMERICAN AID money.

The Article below proves it.

apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-united-states-terro...

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#352 [Permalink] Posted on 27th November 2025 15:20

Why should ordinary Afghans who had nothing to do with September 11 have their savings seized and their lives worsened by officials in Washington? The United States has taken 7 billion dollars in assets belonging to Afghanistan’s central bank held at the New York Federal Reserve, planning to spend half on humanitarian aid in Afghanistan, and has reserved the other half for relatives of 9/11 victims who are suing the Taliban. This is not Washington’s money to distribute. It turns Afghanistan’s national assets into a tool of collective punishment and amounts to theft from people who are themselves innocent.

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#353 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2025 17:11

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Its absolutely unfair and oppressive but it doesn't just apply to Afghanistan, it applies to many countries who Assets and money has been frozen including Pakistan.

Ask and I will provide evidence.

But that's not the argument being made.

Pakistan and its people are committing Kuf'r by accepting aid from America, which is peanuts
Taliban 2.0 are doing nothing wrong by receiving billions of Aid from America.

They are not saying that this Aid is in lieu of Afghan Bank's frozen Assets because Pakistan has an equal case of Pressler Sanctions

Simple binary argument is being put here.

Why is US Aid Haram for Pakistan but Halal for Taliban 2.0? Evidence of Aid has been provided, please refute the sources.

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#354 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2025 17:52

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Pressler sanctions denied military and economic Aid, to Pakistan because of it's Nuclear programme.

Afghanistan had it's Central Bank Money Stolen and then some supposedly returned via United Nations Aid programmes.

Neither of these correlate, Afghans did not receive Billions of Dollars in American Aid. They received their own stolen money.

Your argument is fallacious.

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#355 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2025 18:09

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Since you are making a circular argument let me defer the arguments and ask two straightforward questions:

Is it permissible or impermissible to receive US Aid for either Pakistan and Afghanistan?
Is there a distinction between the two countries when it comes to US Aid and why?

if you say that there is no distinction then we are on the same page.

You still have not refuted the sources provided for US Aid to Afghanistan but if you don't see it as two issues then there is no problem.

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#356 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2025 18:12

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On the contrary it was clearly refuted.
www.muftisays.com/forums/27-sharing-portal/12447-taliban-...

The fact that you are continuing to make the same argument, is baffling.

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#357 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2025 18:21

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Lets try this again...

But never mind that because you are making circular arguments. two straightforward questions:

Is it permissible or impermissible to receive US Aid for either Pakistan and Afghanistan?
Is there a distinction between the two countries when it comes to US Aid and why?

What is your stance?

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#358 [Permalink] Posted on 4th December 2025 18:26

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Never mind, the article claims, Afghans have received 3.83 Billion dollars and Taliban stole it. The question is how can Taliban steal what is their money in the first place, stolen from. afghan Central Bank reserves, returned in the guise of Aid.?

(1) Is it permissible or Impermissible. Depends If the Aid being received is a payment to act as mercenaries and proxies. For the USA.

(2) What is the distinction one is receiving their own money back. The other is receiving Aid to be Americas puppets, and nominate Trump for Nobel prize.

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#359 [Permalink] Posted on 6th December 2025 09:08

Afghanistan authorities say four civilians have been killed after an exchange of heavy fire with Pakistan’s forces along their shared border.

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#360 [Permalink] Posted on 8th December 2025 02:59

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Article is yours, I didn't quote it. I quoted an official report presented to US Congres s and it doesn't say anything about stealing, merely states amounts and that aid is directed towards Pro-Taliabn groups (not stealing).

Circular argument so bowing out...

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There were no civilian casualties, around 16 dead on Afghan side, the drone swarms which were sent from Pakistan returned without engagement.

The loss of life is tragic but as per the Ulama of Pakistan if the border posts are attacked and during retaliation the loss of life is regrettable but permissible in Shariah.

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