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#301 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2025 02:33

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Are those figures independently verified.

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#302 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2025 17:56

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Yes and "independent ratings" placed Pakistan as Number 2 on the "Global Terrorism Index".

Now, it would be most appreciated if answer the question, what are the factors which have changed?

Terrorism Killings in Pakistan:

2019: 365 Killed
2020: 506 Killed
2021: 664 Killed
2022: 971 Killed
2023: 1513 Killed
2024: 2236 Killed
2025: 3341 Killed

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#303 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2025 18:08

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Regime/Government change.
More money from the States. Black ops. Sellouts?
Foreign funded terrorism?

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#304 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2025 18:12

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I am sure they are number two on the Global terrorism index.

I asked you specifically about the stats you want me too comment on, who has independently verified them???

As for what's changed you tell me?
I am just too old and too sick to get into a back and forth.

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#305 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2025 18:29

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Security on the Western Border was and is run by the same FC (Frontier Corps) or in the "Muftisays" lingo "NaPak" Army so as I said no change in leadership, deployments, troop training or posture.
The only change is US leaving and Taliban 2.0 arriving on the Western border.

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The back and forth is on you.

Yes, Terrorism in Pakistan has shot up and Terrorist attacks have risen a lot and that can be independently verified since 2021.

The "number of deaths" is provided by Pakistan Government so you can argue that instead of x killed it is y killed.

Nothing has changed in the leadership, deployment and posture of "NaPak" Army so what has caused a spike (even if you don't agree with deaths) in acts of Terrorism on the Western border? What is the explanation for this?

Terrorism Killings in Pakistan:

2019: 365 Killed
2020: 506 Killed
2021: 664 Killed
2022: 971 Killed
2023: 1513 Killed
2024: 2236 Killed
2025: 3341 Killed

Would like me to rephrase this question with evidence from Qur'aan and Sunnah so you can then answer?

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#306 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2025 18:45

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So you wanna argue, fair enough, I do not believe the statistics provide by Pak establishment. So I cannot comment on the figures they have provided.

I do not agree the posture of Pak Army has not changed.
Only last few months they carried out a massacre for people protesting on behalf of Palestine.
They carried out massacre in protests in Kashmir.

They have spent last few years targeting political enemies and various protester mostly those supporting Imran Khan.
They have carried out brutal crackdowns in Baluchistan, and tribal agencies.

Their posture is that of a brutal dictatorship fighting for it's survival by hook or by crook. Not to mention their recent shilling for Trump, and nominating him for Nobel Prize.

On the opposite side the Taliban themselves, are shamelessly shilling for the Indians.

No side is trustworthy, and everyone should be treated with caution.

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#307 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2025 18:56

Woman in Coma

Note: WikiPedia is banned on Muftisays so I am unable to insert quick links for people to verify names, maps, roads, distances etc.

Please do not believe all of this because some of this is Anti-Taliban sources, I will reference the source and classify it for you to understand the matter.

The Government of Herat province is Shaykhul-Hadeeth Maulana Noor Mohammad Islamjar visited. Maulana visited several facilities in Herat (hospitals, Islam Qala border and other areas).

Maulana Sahab decided to change the policy and force face covering as a requirement for receiving treatments. This was verified by BBC and also by MSF which run the 28 bed Herat Regional Hospital . Dr. Shabnam Fazli was also detained on November 10, 2025 and she is the only (or few) qualified female surgeons for caesarean sections, she has been released this morning (November 13, 2025)

Verification: All of the above has been verified via Reddit, SM, Afghan, Pakistani and Iranian Media.

A patient in labor (and in pain) was brought into Gozargah Maternity Hospital who had 2 previous caesarean section but she was denied entry due to "face covering", her desperate family got her transported to Rezai Regional Maternity Hospital where her uterus ruptured, child died and she is in Coma.

Verification: The details have been verified but the only variation in the story is that she was possibly not treated because Dr. Shabnam Fazli wasn't available and there was no other qualified female surgeon but the source given to you is an Afghan news agency inside Afghanistan.

Alternative Take: Independent sources claim that female Doctors and Nurses even those who wear Naqab are saying that the restrictions placed by Taliban 2.0 are delaying urgent patient care and some are risking patient safety. This issue is similar to what is in place in NHS UK . British Islamic Medical Association shared guidelines for Muslims so female Doctors/Nurses in Afghanistan in critical/urgent care setting are simply confused but not trying to defy Islam.

Shaykhul-Hadeeth Maulana Noor Mohammad Islamjar Sahab saw their actions has an affront to Islam, a deviation from Shariah which has resulted in drop in patients accessing critical care which can be interdependently verified.

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#308 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2025 19:01

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Let me try again.

Frontier Constabulary is deployed along the Western border with Afghanistan, It is not part of regular Army, mostly Pushtuns tribes and generally practicing, praying etc.
FC has no business in Kashmir or Punjab or elsewhere.
FC is under its own command so no business with XYZ or Army and they do not deploy elsewhere.
FC is in KP which has been ruled by PTI provincially since 2013, no change there.

The attacks on FC tribal Pushtun PTI supporting soldiers has increased many folds since 2021.

Please challenge all my assumptions, ask evidence for what I am saying and then tell me what has changed since 2021 to cause this? If you can't answer, at least say "I don't know" or ask intelligent questions if you want to know more. I fully acknowledge the actions of Parvaiz Musharaf and NaPak Army but after multiple back and forths, you can't deny a problem. Do you want me to start positing photos and videos of Janazahs, would that satisfy your "independent verification" criteria that Terrorism rates have spiked since 2021?

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#309 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2025 19:05

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Does frontier constabulary fall under the leadership of Field Marshall Asim Munir, and his Generals or someone else?

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#310 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2025 19:13

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The whole of Pakistan falls under the command of "Field Marshall" Jackass conceptually! but to answer your question truthfully and accurately:

Independent of the Army
Different Uniform
Different command Structure
Training and weapons are different
Intake requirements are different
Reports to "Minister of Interior" instead of "Minister of Defense"

These are paramilitary forces and not Army.

I will patiently answer each and every question of yours, in return you provide me the reasons for this increase since 2021:

Terrorism Killings in Pakistan:

2019: 365 Killed
2020: 506 Killed
2021: 664 Killed
2022: 971 Killed
2023: 1513 Killed
2024: 2236 Killed
2025: 3341 Killed

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#311 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2025 19:17

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I already told you I don't believe those figures. Because they are not independently verified.

The Paramilitary forces are paid to carry out orders, just like regular army. They do not come under some different command and code.

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#312 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2025 19:19

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Increase in Terrorist Attacks since 2021, why?

Independently verified, please explain the reasons.

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#313 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2025 19:22

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You stated those statistics are provided by the Government. The Government has proven itself untrustworthy.

The Paramilitary forces are paid to carry out orders, just like regular army. They do not come under some different command and code.
I don't see why you are arguing that point.

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#314 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2025 19:28

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Let me try again.

Terrorist attack numbers are independently available and verified.
Killings in Terrorist attacks are figures from Pakistan Government from local sources.

You are disputing 2 without evidence so I dropped it.

What is the reason for increase in 1 since 2021? 1 has also been spoken out by people, tribal leaders, Ulama and everyone else. There is zero doubt that they have increased.

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#315 [Permalink] Posted on 13th November 2025 19:32

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This Brother's explanation for that is as good as any.
www.muftisays.com/forums/27-sharing-portal/12447-taliban-...

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