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#256 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2025 11:05
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Compared to your misplaced and delusional nationalistic pride my hatred for the military is quite moderate.

Whatever the faults maybe of the current Taliban regime, at least they have tried to push Afghanistan towards some semblance of Shariah law. Whereas the Pakistani military is hell-bent on not only making the institution completely liberal and secular but also wants to do the same to the entire country. Most people don't even know how much hatred there is in the Pak military for practical Islam. The most they can tolerate is a pacifist version of it that never interferes with the decision-making.

On top of all that it was the NaPak fauj which attacked a brotherly Muslim country first, that also at a time when the kuffar are strongly united against the Muslims and are looking for opportunities to wipe them off the face of the earth. They did this while knowing fully well that the Hindus will take full advantage of a situation where Pak is already at war at one of its borders. It's almost like they want Pakistan to crash and burn.

So yes, I will side with the Taliban. In times like these days, naivety like yours is not needed amongst Muslims.
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#257 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2025 12:12
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So are the Taliban regime, funding and collaborating with the TTP?

This is an article from February 2022
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#258 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2025 12:48
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⚡️Zabihullah Mujahid, spokesman for the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan:

A particular faction within the Pakistani army, opposed to Afghanistan’s recent progress, has turned to certain plots against the country.

According to available information, most Pakistani military personnel, politicians, parties, scholars, and citizens do not support the actions of this faction
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#259 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2025 13:37
Afghanistan officials claim their forces killed 58 Pakistani soldiers in overnight border operations, a figure Pakistan put at 23.

Pakistan says its security forces captured 19 Afghan border posts, claiming that more than 200 Taliban and affiliated fighters were killed.

Cross-border attacks come after the Afghan capital was targeted by air strikes on Thursday, an attack that Kabul blamed on Islamabad.

Key border crossings between Pakistan and Afghanistan have been closed after fierce clashes.
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#260 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2025 14:43
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Nationalistic pride? Ok but that's still better than supporting a kaafir nation fighting a Muslim army. You don't even realize that by asking Taliban to take help from India against Pakistan, you have only provided justification for Pakistan's biggest blunder of making an alliance with America and NATO in their war against terror.

We don't want this khariji mentality in the ummah that supports kuffar against Muslim nations especially at a time when non Muslims are already united against Islam. We don't want Pakistan to attack Afghanistan or vice versa. We only want peace amongst Muslim nations. We would love to see them united against India, America, Israel and the khawarij.
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#261 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2025 14:54
The Convener of All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHC), Ghulam Mohammad Safi, has strongly rejected the statement made by the Foreign Ministers of India and Afghanistan regarding Jammu and Kashmir, declaring that Kashmir is not an integral part of India but an internationally recognized disputed territory.

He said that the stance presented in the joint press conference contradicts United Nations Security Council resolutions, which clearly recognize Kashmir as an unresolved dispute and call for a free and impartial plebiscite to determine the will of the Kashmiri people.

Safi emphasized that India’s claim of Kashmir being its “integral part” is a violation of historical facts, international law, and the aspirations of the Kashmiri people.

Expressing deep regret over the Afghan Foreign Minister’s remarks, he said that it is highly disappointing to see a brotherly Muslim country endorsing India’s position. He added that Afghanistan, having itself endured decades of foreign occupation and conflict, should stand in solidarity with the Kashmiri people based on justice, principles, and Islamic brotherhood.

www.dailyindependent.com.pk/2025/10/12/all-parties-hurriy...
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#262 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2025 15:08
The International Union of Muslim Scholars has urgently appealed for an immediate halt to the growing tensions and clashes between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

In its statement, the Council cited a Hadith of the Prophet ﷺ, emphasizing that “It is an act of sin (fisq) for a Muslim to abuse another Muslim, and fighting against one another is an act of disbelief (kufr).”

Expressing deep regret over the situation between the two Muslim countries, the Council stated that both nations must realize that they share the same faith, destiny, neighborhood, blood, and history.

The Council stressed that the violation of Muslim blood and the spread of discord and division among Muslims is strictly forbidden (haram) and constitutes a major sin (kabirah) in Islamic law.

The Council called on both governments to exercise restraint, control their armies and media, and move toward dialogue and wise solutions.

It further urged both countries to resolve their disputes within the framework of Islamic Shariah and in the spirit of faith-based brotherhood, upholding the principles of justice and benevolence (adl wa ihsan), and keeping in mind the objectives of Shariah—which encourage reconciliation and warn against chaos and division.

Because, it said, conflict and strife between brotherly nations only weaken the Ummah and serve the political and military interests of its enemies.

The Council also appealed to Islamic organizations, movements, scholars, and intellectuals to play an active role in improving the situation and controlling the unrest so that peace and stability may prevail and Islamic unity may be demonstrated.

The Council expressed its readiness to mediate and reconcile between the two sides, declaring that it would fully support any initiative aimed at extinguishing the flames of discord and restoring friendly relations between the two nations.

Citing a Qur’anic verse, the Council reminded that:

“If two groups of believers fight each other, make peace between them.”
This, it said, is both a Qur’anic command and a Qur’anic duty.

The statement concluded with a supplication:

May Allah, Lord of Majesty and Honor, swiftly extinguish the fire of discord,
soften hearts toward peace and reconciliation,
and bring about an atmosphere of harmony, safety, and love between the two nations.

Issued from:
Doha, Qatar — Sunday, 20 Rabi‘ al-Thani 1447 AH / 12 October 2025 CE

By:
Dr. Ali Muhyiddin al-Qaradaghi (President of the Council)
Dr. Ali Muhammad al-Sallabi (Secretary General)
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#263 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2025 15:22
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The Afghan Taliban are the remnants of the mujahideen who fought the superpowers previously and the TTP are a creation of the Pak military to use whenever they want to create an atmosphere of terrorism in the region.

Now let's pause and think. Up until a few days ago the Pak army was selling the story to the world that the TTP are back in the region and that they are doing terrorist activities in Pakistan, but will soon be coming for Europe and America, etc. And there were actual terrorist incidents happening until a few days ago. The DG ISPR even did a press conference trying to blame Imran Khan for their resurgence. And according to them they are being funded by Afghan Taliban. So now that the Pak army went to war with the Afghan Taliban, what happened to the TTP? Why aren't they attacking the Pak army from inside the country when that army is waging war against their "sponsors"? Why is the TTP all of a sudden not interested in terrorist attacks? If you can understand this you will understand what and who actually the TTP is.

But there's a larger game going on as well. This was the perfect opportunity for India to attack Pakistan as well while our forces are busy on the other border. But India has no such aims so far. Why do you think that is? From what has happened in the past month or so it's obvious that the US is keeping a handle on India since it is the US for which Pakistan has initiated a war with Afghanistan. For the Bagram airbase. An idea that the Pak army itself pitched to the US.
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#264 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2025 15:32
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Firstly, Pakistan are the aggressors. They started this first. That also against a Muslim country. And for what? So that they can secure the Bagram air base for the US? In that sense they need to be taught a lesson. It's up to the Afghans to decide how they'd teach them that lesson. If that means taking help from the mushrikeen then so be it. After all, Pakistan is receiving dollars from the kuffar for their efforts. So why begrudge the Afghans when they are playing just as dirty? The Ummah absolutely needs someone who can put Pakistan in their place for attacking a brotherly country.

Secondly, all decision-making of the Pak army is in the hands of the kufriya elements within that army. And khwariji mentality or not I am not going to support an army that is basically a mercenary army of the kuffar for dollars. Stop living in fantasy land that has been sold to you for 70 plus years by this very army. It is not the Truth.
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#265 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2025 16:20
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You want them to teach a lesson?
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#266 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2025 16:45
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Yeah like India was seeking a ceasefire, right? NaPak fauj is notorious for its lies during war time. Check out what they were propagating during the 1971 debacle where they eventually surrendered under most humiliating circumstances. Even their lies during the recent conflict with India were uncovered by some foreign reporters. The only reason they were able to control the narrative at the time of the conflict was because Trump wanted to twist India's arm for some favors and wanted to humiliate them.
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#267 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2025 19:51
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It is becoming clear the present regime in Afghanistan has evolved, is no longer the movement of Mullah Omar. And it is equally possible the situation is now reversed and they are using the TTP as a proxy.

Secondly it is frankly quite ludicrous to suggest that the Pak Army, is funding TTP to kill it's own soldiers, and Pakistani civilians. Although it's possible the Pakistani intelligence did try to harness this organisation in it's embryonic stages, but lost control and influence and created a rod for their own back.

Furthermore the Americans and their Colonial allies, study how to sow discord and conflict in other nations. They study every ethnic group, every tribe, every clan, every caste, and every religious sect, and their historic grievances and points of conflict with each other. Then they stir the pot.

If Pakistani army is completely destroyed, what will replace it will be complete anarchy and chaos, with the entire nation divided into groups and splinter groups and at war with each other. No one's, life, wealth or honour will be safe.

And then the westerners will also make moves, saying we need to disarm Pakistan of it's Nuclear Arsenal, to prevent it falling into the hands of "Islamic Terrorists".

For anyone to support such massive conflict and bloodshed and division is beyond comprehension.

Instead we ask ALLAH to keep Pakistan united, and give us leaders who are pious and righteous.

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#268 [Permalink] Posted on 12th October 2025 20:53
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#269 [Permalink] Posted on 13th October 2025 01:25
The Zionists are rejoicing and mocking them.
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Israeli commentator Edy Cohen:

“I wish for Pakistan to eliminate the Taliban. I wish for the Taliban to eliminate Pakistan. O Allah, strike the oppressors with the oppressors.”
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#270 [Permalink] Posted on 13th October 2025 16:33
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But it's a stark reminder to those Indians, that it was them who blew it up and didn't accept money from it's protection!

They should've clicked some selfies pointing at the painting with a hand grenade. The followers would've made plenty of memes.

On a side note: @fod1083, Any truth on Black September from the 70's. Did the Pakistani military really kill 20,000+ Palestinians on the request of Jordan, according to some Indian outlets, or is that propaganda?

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Pakistan Army is a mercenary force, once butchered 25,000 Palestinians
From the 1970 Black September in Jordan when Pakistani troops under Zia-Ul-Haq's command butchered 25,000 Palestinians, to the brand-new defence pact with Riyadh, Pakistan's generals have long fought for whoever signs the biggest cheques. The latest deal with Saudi Arabia, with a promise of a nuclear shield, is the latest chapter in Rawalpindi's long mercenary ledger. www.indiatoday.in/history-of-it/story/pakistan-army-merce...


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It is ironic that Pakistan and Israel are both countries created in the name of religion, at around the same time (in 1947 and 1948, respectively) www.mei.edu/publications/pakistans-shifting-positions-pli...


I'm certainly starting to wonder if the Brits had this all planned out from before. Divide and conquer.
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