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#271 [Permalink] Posted on 13th October 2025 16:46

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I agree about the Taliban. I said months ago that it is very clear now that the Taliban of Mullah Omar are now a distant dream.

But you say, it is ludicrous to think the Pak military created TTP. Isn't it even more absurd to say they are being sponsored by the Afghan Taliban? If that were true, why isn't any other bordering country like Iran, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and even China complaining of terrorism by the Afghan Taliban in their countries? What is so special about Pakistan that the Afghan Taliban want to use TTP as a proxy here? And once again the question arises that with the Pak military engaged completely in war with the Afghan Taliban, why are the TTP not attacking the outposts of Pak military to help out their sponsors?

As for your assertion that the destruction of Pak army means anarchy and chaos, that's exactly what the Pak army scares the Pak people with when someone asks for them to be held accountable. Infact, in today's world every country's army does or even some governments do that. That there will be anarchy and chaos. You will lose your peace.
As Muslims, I think anarchy and chaos is what will produce the people who will eventually establish the kingdom of Allah on earth. Prosperity and abundance has ruined us.

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#272 [Permalink] Posted on 13th October 2025 16:53

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No idea about this honestly, but I wouldn't be surprised. Even now the Pak military functions as a mercenary. Available for anyone who offers them dollars. Even in the intelligence circles of the US the Pak army is notorious as someone who would sell their mothers for dollars.

I don't know what people sitting outside of Pakistan think about our morals as individuals and as a collective, but our society is in such a state of rot and so deeply immersed in wahn that we are unable to correctly identify now what is right and what is wrong.

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#273 [Permalink] Posted on 13th October 2025 19:00

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This is what I actually stated in my previous post:

"Secondly it is frankly quite ludicrous to suggest that the Pak Army, is funding TTP to kill it's own soldiers, and Pakistani civilians. Although it's possible the Pakistani intelligence did try to harness this organisation in it's embryonic stages, but lost control and influence and created a rod for their own back."

As for why the TTP is not attacking in co-ordination with the Afghan Taliban, maybe because the Taliban don't want them to under the banner of TTP, the TTP brand is globally toxic , and reviled across the world for their targeting of civilians.
No doubt in my mind that this new group called the "Defenders of Islamic Emirate" are TTP with a different name.
x.com/warfareanalysis/status/1977066834177171536

As for why Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, etc have not accused the Taliban of supporting Insurgency in their countries, I have not looked into it, but I can say is they did accuse the original Taliban of supporting Islamic insurgent groups, in their countries. I don't know if they are accusing the present Taliban regime or not. But I do know is that all these former Soviet republics have re-imposed restrictions on Islam, and the practice and teaching of Islam in their countries since Taliban came to power.

But the question is do any of those countries have a territorial dispute with Afghanistan? The Afghan Taliban have stated they do not recognise the boundaries of the present border, known as the Durandt line, which was a construct of the British colonisers. And they want all of KPK including Peshawar, to returned to Afghanistan.
The TTP under their present leader Noor Wali Mehsud, have revised their goals and want to liberate that area from Pakistan, so their goals align.

As for the rest I don't know what the Pak Army has been saying, but Pakistan being at risk of an internal conflict.

My assessment is based on what we have witnessed in the last 50 years or so, how the colonisers have exploited the Muslims sowed division and discord. And created internal conflicts and destruction in Lebanon, in Yemen, in Syria, in Iraq, in Libya, in Somalia, with millions of deaths, the evidence is right before our eyes.

I would argue that Pakistani, society more divided along sectarian, ethnic, and tribal lines. The bloodshed will be worse. And the chance of peace and any type unity emerging after that will be Zero, your argument that this will be a good thing is absurd.

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#274 [Permalink] Posted on 13th October 2025 19:56

You know, the Pakistan Army is massive. It’s got around 25 divisions and about half a million soldiers spread across the country. With a force that big, it’s not too hard to imagine that a few people here and there might have their own views or sympathies, maybe even toward groups like the TTP.

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#275 [Permalink] Posted on 13th October 2025 23:33

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Yes absolutely.
I am old enough to remember twenty plus years ago when the Americans, pressed Musharraf to wage war in the tribal agencies and take control of the area. Claiming that the Afghan Taliban, were coming and going as they pleased.

And after Musharraf willingly obliged the Ulemah, in Pakistan,
Issued a fatwah saying that Janazah should not be performed for any Pakistani soldier waging war against their fellow Muslims on behalf of America. Many soldiers refused to fight there was even an incident were soldiers layed down their arms.

The brutality that the Pakistani army committed in the tribal agencies led to the emergence of groups like the TTP.

So I am sure there are people in the military who are sympathetic, but I think it far more likely that the Pakistani army is heavily infiltrated and that there are people directly on the payroll of the Americans. And groups like TTP are usually created by the Americans who are very good at playing all sides. There are probably people in the TTP that are on Americas payroll, and no doubt in the Afghan Taliban also.

The gist of my argument is that the Afghan Taliban made friendly overtures when they recently came to power, the Pakistani Army instead of reciprocating and strengthening ties, which would have been in the mutual interests of both Pakistan and Afghanistan. Chose to rebuff those overtures, have consistently violated Afghan sovereignty, starting a few months after the Taliban took power in early 2022 when the Pak Army first launched airs strikes. From a strategic point off view, it would be in the Afghan Talibans interests to then strengthen ties with TTP instead as a a first line of defence against the Pak Army,

So I would agree the entire mess that we are now in leads back to the Pak army, who are the root cause.

However I disagree that a civil war and internal conflict within Pakistan is the solution.

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#276 [Permalink] Posted on 14th October 2025 09:10

Pakistan is accusing Afghanistan of harbouring the TTP, and vice versa, Afghanistan is accusing Pakistan of hosting ISKP.

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#277 [Permalink] Posted on 15th October 2025 19:07

Pakistan and Afghanistan have agreed to a temporary 48-hour ceasefire amid deepening hostilities between the former allies after deadly clashes erupted on the border overnight, according to Pakistani officials.

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#278 [Permalink] Posted on 17th October 2025 23:06

At least eight people were killed Friday evening after airstrikes hit a house in the Arghun district of Paktika, Afghanistan. Locals said a bunch of young guys had just finished a cricket match and were having dinner together when the strike happened. Sadly, three of them were local cricketers, and because of that, Afghanistan has decided to pull out of next month’s cricket tri-series against Pakistan.

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#279 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2025 14:13

This was tweeted a few weeks before Pak-Afghan war started

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#280 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2025 14:14

This was tweeted on 14th October after the war had started

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#281 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2025 17:18

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I said it on 30th September

www.muftisays.com/forums/97-palestine/14032-the-changing-...

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Trump may have cut a side deal with Pakistan. America gets easier access to Bagram with Pakistan's help and Islamabad threw support behind his Gaza plan. In return, Pakistan bagged a load of U.S. cash and a promise that Washington would keep India in line.

Source: www.muftisays.com/forums/97-palestine/14032-the-changing-...

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#282 [Permalink] Posted on 21st October 2025 14:09

Sad state of affairs

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#283 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd October 2025 13:44

Note to admin: Double post accidentally, please delete this one as I can't find an option.

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