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#61 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd February 2020 11:44
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People forget that the whole reason the Taliban came about was to stop the killing and oppression that the various war lords were carrying out.

After the Soviet war those that later became the Taliban put down their weapons and returned back to their lives. They only became the Taliban because they had to.

Later, others joined them who saw the opportunity to gain power through the Taliban. They had wrong intentions and ulterior motives.

The original Taliban and mulla Umar had no aspirations beyond Afghanistan. They wanted stability, security and progress in Afghanistan and felt the right way would be to implement the shariah and bring everyone under it.

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#62 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd February 2020 11:51

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The clue was and still is in the name

Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan

 
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#63 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd February 2020 11:51
Before 9/11 Americans were negotiating with the Taliban to build an oil pipeline through Afghanistan. For whatever reason negotiations failed. After that we had 9/11 and the American occupation. Then the pipeline was built.

Do we really believe America really cares what the Taliban do or don't do? America is best buddies with Saudi Arabia who rule by (their version) of sharia, execute people, capital punishment etc. Only difference is saudi does the bidding of America and the Taliban didn't.
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#64 [Permalink] Posted on 29th February 2020 11:13

29FEB2020: Taliban-US Deal

twitter.com/osamabinjavaid/status/1233702163035119616

Reporter: I asked the Taliban if it's true that the Afghan government controls the day and Taliban controls the night?

Taliban (Laughing): 70% of the territory is controlled by our fighter. This was true a long time ago, now we control the day and the night.

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#65 [Permalink] Posted on 29th February 2020 16:27
U.S. Strikes Deal With Taliban to Withdraw Troops From Afghanistan
DOHA, Qatar — The United States signed a deal with the Taliban on Saturday that sets the stage to end America’s longest war — the nearly two-decade-old conflict in Afghanistan that began after the Sept. 11 attacks, killed tens of thousands of people, vexed three White House administrations and left mistrust and uncertainty on all sides.

The agreement lays out a timetable for the final withdrawal of United States troops from Afghanistan, the impoverished Central Asian country once unfamiliar to many Americans that now symbolizes endless conflict, foreign entanglements and a potential stage for terrorist plots.
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Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/world/asia/us-taliban-deal.html?emc=edit_na_20200229&ref=cta&nl=breaking-news&campaign_id=60&instance_id=0&segment_id=21753&user_id=46d26e13817be68a05275413a6a4291a&regi_id=101843464
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#66 [Permalink] Posted on 29th February 2020 16:34
The fact that America has to strike a deal with the taliban speaks volumes about who is really in power and who is really winning.

Alhumdulillah.

(Edit: Typo from swipe corrected [facepalm])
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#67 [Permalink] Posted on 3rd March 2020 10:24

02MAR2020: Taliban resume attacks on Afghans

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-51706126

Afghan conflict: Taliban to resume attacking local forces after deal with US

he Taliban are to resume attacks against government forces, just days after signing a deal with the US aimed at bringing peace to Afghanistan.

The hard-line Islamist group had observed a "reduction in violence" in the week leading up to the agreement.

The deal included a commitment to hold peace talks with the Afghan government.

But the group's spokesman said on Monday the talks would not go ahead if 5,000 Taliban prisoners held by the government were not released.

The release formed part of the agreement signed on Saturday in Qatar with the US.

But on Sunday, Afghanistan's President Ashraf Ghani told reporters his government had agreed to no such release.

"There is no commitment to releasing 5,000 prisoners," Mr Ghani said. "This is the right and the self-will of the people of Afghanistan. It could be included in the agenda of the intra-Afghan talks, but cannot be a prerequisite for talks."

The Taliban have previously refused to negotiate with the Afghan government, so Saturday's deal was just with the US, which invaded Afghanistan weeks after the September 2001 attacks in New York by al-Qaeda, then based in Afghanistan.

The Taliban were ousted from power but became an insurgent force that by 2018 was active in more than two-thirds of the country.

What have the Taliban said?

The Taliban said they would resume fighting Afghan forces, but would not target international troops.

This contradicted Mr Ghani's comments on Sunday. He had said the partial truce was set to continue "with a goal to reach a full ceasefire".

Meanwhile, Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told news agency Reuters they would not take part in talks with the government unless the release went ahead.

"We are fully ready for the intra-Afghan talks, but we are waiting for the release of our 5,000 prisoners," he said. "If our 5,000 prisoners - 100 or 200 more or less does not matter - do not get released there will be no intra-Afghan talks."

An estimated 10,000 captured Taliban are being held in Afghanistan.

The BBC's Secunder Kermani says it's not yet clear if the Taliban will now resume fighting - or if this is an attempt to pressurise the government into releasing the detainees.

How has the US reacted?

General Scott Miller, the US forces commander in Afghanistan, said the reduction in violence "was a confidence builder", adding: "We're very serious about our obligations and we expect the Taliban will be serious about their obligations.

"The United States has been very clear about our expectations - the violence must remain low."

Saturday's agreement included the withdrawal of US troops and its Nato allies from Afghanistan within 14 months - if the militants hold up the deal.

About 12,000 US troops are still stationed in the country.

US President Donald Trump, who had promised to end the Afghan conflict, said on Saturday that it was "time to bring our people back home".

Mr Trump said 5,000 US troops would leave Afghanistan by May and he would meet Taliban leaders in the near future.

He added that US troops had been killing militants in Afghanistan "by the thousands" and now it was "time for someone else to do that work and it will be the Taliban and it could be surrounding countries".

On Sunday, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told CBS news that he hoped negotiations between the Afghan government and the Taliban would begin in the coming days.

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#68 [Permalink] Posted on 7th April 2020 11:47
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#69 [Permalink] Posted on 7th April 2020 12:21
I was pessimistic about this deal. You can't have parallel government. There's also a power struggle in Kabul between Ghani and Abdullah. It will all come down to how much patience America has with the Kabul administration.
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#70 [Permalink] Posted on 7th April 2020 13:59
If the US truly wanted peace the first thing that needed to be done was to boot their puppets in Kabul.
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#71 [Permalink] Posted on 14th April 2020 23:50
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#72 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2020 12:19
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#73 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2020 18:52
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Salaam.

I don't understand this. Please explain this to me.

The original Taliban would never allow Shias to join. In fact they would host people from lashkar e jhangvi and sipah e sahabah. The original Taliban aimed to establish shariah based upon Sunni Islam.

How is a Shia fighting for Sunni Islam? Unless Taliban have changed their goals?
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#74 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2020 19:24
Roughly 15% of the Afghan population practice Shia Islam.

Should they not be involved in governance as gesture of goodwill. If you don't involve them then they'll go running to someone else
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#75 [Permalink] Posted on 29th April 2020 19:31
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Taliban are not in governance.
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