bint e aisha wrote:
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As I said before to you.
You have problems distinguishing context in conversations and plucking things out of context and presenting them.
There is no such thing in Islam called “Halafi”, it is a fact; there are no two ways about it.
However, it is term for which an article was written about it on “deoband.org” no less! Thus, what choice does a person has? When writing or summarising or discussing “Halafi” with someone who believes this to be an accurate term, how does a person move beyond the semantics, cut to the chase and discuss the point? By hypothetical examples so we say “Suppose a Halafi…”
Maulana Asadm (RA) of South Africa who had a profound impact on my life best explained in his marriage series which I heard when I was 19 and Maulana (RA) said, “Allah (SWT) says in the Qur’aan so LEAVE or REMAIN or your Kuf’r”…Does this mean that Allah Ta’ala is encouraging people to LEAVE Islam or REMAIN on Kuf’r?
Strip the Ayah of the Qu’raan of its context and it becomes a joke!
In a forum, in replies the response is tailored to the question and within the context and confines of the conversation. Strip all of it and it can be misunderstood.
I sincerely believe that you are not dumb enough to actually believe that a term “Halafi” actually exists either BUT in your zeal of protecting your ego you wish to bring XYZ into the conversation.
Let’s get back to the issue which is simply this.
You can argue that a person who is from Deoband is “Deoandi”
You can also argue that a person who is a graduate of “DU Doeband” is “Deobandi”
You can stretch and argue that a person who is a graduate of any affiliate of “DU Deoband” is also “Deobandi”
BUT none of you are!
Moreover, you are using it a differentiating factor in Islam i.e. ABC is “Deobandi” i.e. ABC is neither “Salafi” nor “Barelwee” …In other words you are ascribing a strict code of definition to “Deobandi’ism”…That is that “Deobandi’ism” has a strict code of Aqeedah, Madhab etc.
IF you cared to listen to Mufti Rafi Usmani (HA) he absolutely and categorically not only opposes it but denounces it most vehemently. In fact, NONE of the Ulama of “Deoband” actually use or define or use that term in that sense.
All of the above is written in plain English which you can easily grasp but your Nafs will get infuriated and instead of discussing the facts and focussing you will change subjects and you will clutch on straws.
You will say things like “See, even you are using the term Deobandi…” I am but within the context to cut through the fog of misunderstanding which exits in your mind.
You know VERY WELL that this term is neither a term in Islam, nor any historical context nor any Madhab or Aqeedah concept…BUT it is being used as such.
Your companion is also using as an “identifier” and not to denote a graduate from a particular institute.
I am confident that you both clearly and visually and unambiguously understand what I have written and you both clearly understand the issue of identifier
But you will keep on insisting and arguing instead of actually trying to look at the bigger picture.
Unlike most people, I always evaluate an argument as humanly possible to the best of my ability. I am human and make mistakes…So far all argument which oppose the opinion of Mufti Rafi Usmani (HA) are superfluous and weak.
I am “Deobandi” because I am not “Barelwee”
Others use it
What about “Hanafi”?
None of these are even discussing the issue let alone be convincing.