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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 13:34
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We did not know that, Thanks for enlightening us! You mean Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) and his Madhab came after the revelation of the Qur’aan.

Wow! What a “revelation”…We truly feel blessed and enlightened :P

You are always welcome.
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 13:41
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Don't know which companion you are referring to but I never feel ashamed to admit when I don't know anything. I have not issued any authoritative statement here. I just said: "I call myself Deobandi to distinguish myself from Barelvi and other deviant aqaid, and to make clear that I follow that interpretation of deen which is done by Ulama-e-Deoband."

Not sure what's wrong with it.
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 13:44
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Not sure what's wrong with it.

It's as clear as crystal sister.
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It's that part even you are not sure about :)
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 13:46
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You give me two options and I'll tell you which Deobandi.
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 13:48
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That would be injustice to all the other factions/divisions
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 13:52
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Ok give me unlimited options. I'll select few of them.
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 13:55
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If I gave a few types, then you know very well there will be more types within them

On second thoughts:
Tabligihi type?
Sufi type?
Jihadi type?
Hilali type?
Zabiha type?
Mechanical type? (in the context of slaughter) :)

The list can go on

Members (not all) of each type can't stand the other. What a shame.
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 13:59
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These are pity issues. I can tolerate everyone including Barelvi, Salafi, ahle Hadith, Jamat-e-Islami etc etc.
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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 14:00
out of curiosity what is the exact link between deobandi and hanafi? if we follow imam abu hanafi رضي الله عنه why not just stick to calling ourselves that rather than deobandi? also turkish,iraqi,syrian and other hanafis ave differences in certain areas with deobandis but all say they follow hanafi fiqh. How does that work? for examples turks will start salat whilst muazzin says qad qaamatis salah whilst deobandi hanafis wait til the end. I asked one of our local ulema and he said the turkish method is more in line with the hanafi madhab ( the imam was deobandi and well known in UK)
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 14:06
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There are two types of Hanafis here. Deobandis and Barelvis. The example which you have posted about Salah manifests small Fiqhi difference, however we have basic issues in aqaid with Barelvis. You call yourself Hanafi to clarify what fiqh you follow, then what's the problem if I call myself Deobandi to specify my aqeedah?
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 14:21

Notice that none of these "Deobandees" are actually translating or challenging what Mufti Rafi Usmani (HA) is actually saying.

They are claiming, “He may be from Deoband, like his father, grandfather and those before him. He may be Grand Mufti of (Pakistan) and his father before him but WE ARE Deobandi because we KNOW better than all of them put together”

We will not translate the speech because it will expose our ignorance on a grand scale but we will keep changing subjects and we will keep talking about XYZ...We have learned these tactics from Politicians and we will ignore Qur'aan which tells us to talkstraight and to the point!

We will quote Qur'aan everywhere else but we will not practise it when we KNOW we are wrong because our Ego is higher than Mount Everest but more brittle than a leaf and gets easily hurt. We will abandon Qur'aan and we will abandon Sunnah because our Ego is more precious!

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 14:29
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I always talk straight to the point. It is you who start changing subjects, never answer my questions and repeat your old points about democracy and whatnot which I've read more than 10000000 times on this forum.

Allah ta'ala grant me death before I abandon Qur'an and Sunnah. Ameen
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 17:18
Alexa, Siri, Cortona, Google, "What is a Deobandi?"

I'm sorry, even the they don't know
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 20:48
Salam

although for now i have only listen the Last part 5 of Audios.

If I correctly understood the point of Brother Muadh Sahab.
Yes We are deobandee but what does it indicate???
yes you agree with the interpretation of Quran n sunnah in a way have understood by the Ulema of Deoband.
but where we taking our society and general masses.

we shall pounder upon.
and not too much involved in the debate and criticising Other.

Mufti Rafi Sahab in given Audio highlighting that.. THERE ARE SOME PREACHER WHO KNOW TO CRITISE ON DISPUTED TOPICS AND CAN READY FOR ANY TIME; EVEN DOESNT REQUIRE PREPARATION FOR THAT..they are so mush engrossed in that..BUT WHEN ASKED FOR OTHER TOPICS OTHER THAN THE DISPUTED/Controversial TOPICS SUCH AS BEING TRUTHFUL, NOT ❌ BACKBITING, WIRASAT, etc UPON WHICH THERE IS NOT DIFFERENCES WITHIN ALL WHO REFERRED TO
BE A MUSLIM.. THESE ARE THE HATE MONGERS WHO CAUSE DISUNITY..

rather we shall focus on PRINCIPLE teaching of Islam and present Islam to the General public in a easy way.
and provide suitable solutions to thier daily DEENI requirements.
There shall be clear a clear picture of True Islam in our Society.


if our basic principles are correct then there is a hope that InshAllah other actions and beliefs also gonna be correct..


About differences there are much thing that even mostof thetime the Responding party.. upon whom the Criticism is ... are Not ❌ aware of.
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    #30 [Permalink] Posted on 18th January 2019 01:45
    @Asaagir:

    but I found it:

    ''De·o·ban·di (dā′ə-bŭn′dē)
    n.pl. De·o·ban· disalsoDeobandi

    An adherent of an Islamic movement originating in India and seeking to revive the practices and theological and legal interpretations of early Islam.

    [Urdu devbandī, of Deoband, Deobandi, from Devband, Deoband, town in Uttar Pradesh, India, the location of the Islamic seminary in which the movement began.]''
    www.thefreedictionary.com/Deobandi?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2...
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