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#91 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2019 18:42

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The type that were around in the Salaf :) InshaAllah!

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#92 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2019 18:46

@Muadh, why have I been given Maturidi? :)

I am neither Maturidi nor Ash'ari.

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#93 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2019 18:46

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Good thread but still my question is not answered. Some members talk in riddles and I am confused. If there are Hanafi ulema other than Deobandis who are authentic as well then please share their names so that I could listen to them, read their works and consult from them.

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#94 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2019 18:47

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Then are you a dolphin?

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#95 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2019 18:48

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Who are the salaf. Where have you learned them about? Any books? Or lectures? Or have you seen them yourself?

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#96 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2019 18:49

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Mu'tazili?

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#97 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2019 18:53

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You read a person well I guess. I am very friendly. but I don't do tricks :)

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#98 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2019 18:56

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There should be another rating feature added called "Funny"

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#99 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2019 18:58

This thread is becoming interesting but dear Authorizer, how did you know about the salaf? Who are they? What they used to do? Do you have any clue?

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#100 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2019 19:04

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Sure, I can give you a list if you give me a single statement of Mullah Omar (RA) where he called himself "Deobandi".

Please go ahead.

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#101 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2019 19:19

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If I say I'm a TJ, does that make me a Deobandi?
If I say that I'm a Deobandi, does that make me a TJ?

If I say that I'm a Talibani :) does that make me a Deobandi?

If I say I'm a Deobandi, does that make me a Talibani (excuse the expression)

If I say I'm Hanafi, does that make me a Qadyani?

If I say I'm Maturidi, does that make me a Deobandi?

If I say I'm Ash'ari, does that make me Deobandi?

If I'm all of the above or non of the above, I'm still better off as a dolphin :)

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#102 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2019 19:35

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A bit like asking a Mufti a detailed question on permissible and non permissible and they reply: Should be avoided :)

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#103 [Permalink] Posted on 16th January 2019 19:48

In terms of those who I met personally then I have to admit that I am also "living" in a box, although I try to think outside of the box. I have met a Shaikh from Manchester, can't remember his name, but he was a graduate of Al Azhar, a Qari and an expert in hanafi and shafi fiqh. I have also a met a Shaikh from Nigeria who I think studied in Madinah but wasn't an extreme salafi and read Quran excellently. I also met and listened to talks from other Shaikhs but most graduated from Madinah university and Azhar, but i don't know if they count in our discussion , perhaps they may be a little salafi or the beard may be short etc.

Then they are those non deobandi ulama who I know from social media , and those who have deobandis among their teachers but they themselves aren't deobandis.

I have benefitted from a tajweed book written by a student of well known arab expert on Qirat and tajweed.
Then they are those that don't speak English, like those in Mauritania, and some other Arab Ulama active on social media.

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#104 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 04:42

Why I say What I say and Why I am obliged to believe what I believe

1. I am not living in UK and the rest of the West. So things which apply to Western Muslims don't necessarily always apply to me.
2. In my locality I have got ulema of only two schools. Deoband and Barelwi.
3. In my area Deobandi ulema neither attend milad nor there are many Christians living here so they also don't participate in Christmas.
4. Apart from during Talbligh trips, I have only met Hayati Deobandi Ulema.

What to take what to leave and how I know right and wrong

a. I constantly ask Allah for hidayah.
b. In ijtihadi matters concerning me, I try to listen to both opinions of Deobandi ulema. Then I accept where ever my heart inclines and reject where ever I feel it not doing.
c. I believe that if you truly and sincerely ask from Allah then Allah will make you meet the righteous ones.

So I don't have much choice than to follow Deobandi ulema on the condition that my heart keeps on content.

At the end of the day, it is Allah and then the contentment of my conscience and heart which matters to me most.

I don't consider non Deobandis kafirs.

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#105 [Permalink] Posted on 17th January 2019 04:45

Everyone is living in his own box. Some peoples' box is small and some peoples' box is big but nevertheless to say, still everyone is living in his own box.

Only Allah is unlimited.

So those who claim that they are out of the box are delusional.

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