Muslims in the West: Rude, Nasty, Obnoxious, Bad-mannered

Since this thread has derailed and become a discussion on me (personally)…

When I was 19 a person whom I consider to be Wali of Allah Ta’ala “predicted” what my life would turn out to be and it has pretty much turned out to be like that.

I have an intense dislike for bullying and ever since I was a child I have always stood up for the weak and vulnerable.

My issues at Sunniforum had largely nothing to do with me. It started when a “Mufti” mistreated a young brother who was going through some personal problems in his life and his public treatment by the “Mufti” resulted in severe problems for him, his wife and his family. I contacted the said Mufti and went through his posts (which was factually incorrect) and the tone and the demeanour in which a young brother was dressed down.

Mufti Saheb admitted it privately but is ego prevented him to apologise in public or retract his outburst.

I then began to pay attention to Sunniforum and there was no doubt that Ulama and Shura abused their position, silenced opinions and banned people just for disagreeing. I began to take up the cause of these people (some of them I got to know personally).

These “Hazrats and their worshippers” enjoyed their censorship abilities on Sunniforum. On Muftisays, they are deprived of their key weapon (of censorship and banning) and they need to argue by the strength of their argument.

Majority of the people are not aware of the inner workings of Sunniforum but they wish to apply the same policies at Muftisays and wish to see me silenced. These people have access to the same Ulama (by WhatsApp or email) and they copy/paste the same (weak, refutable arguments) but they wish for the argument to be given credence simply because it has come from “Maulana A or Mufti B”.

During Sunniforum days, some of these (intellectually weak) individuals signed up to IslamicAwakening  forum and copies/pasted the arguments from Sunniforum and got hammered! So they winged, moaned, complained and ended up leaving OR retreating back into the safe sanctuary of Sunniforum

IslamicAwakening forum also did not have Sunniforum censorship policies.

Many of these individuals have retreated to select WhatsApp groups where they can “gloat” over their Academic superiority and there is nobody to challenge their arguments.

I strongly believe that shutting down of Sunniforum was a disaster for (innocent) Deobandees who had a SAFE SPACE to protect their Eemaan.

An example of what I am talking about is how I got to know Dr76 from Sunniforum. When Haris Hamaam was on his mission on IslamicAwakening  forum about “Taqleed Shaksi”, I was introduced to Dr76 Saheb. On the topic of “Taqleed Shaksi” we discussed the Fatwa of Mufti Rahseed Ahmed Gangohi (RA) on it.

I love Dr76 Saheb but to present a paragraph of Hazrat Gangohi (RA) on the topic against an avalanche of evidence was never going to be effective. I advised Dr Saheb of this and we have remained close ever since although it is still the chief weapon in his armoury against “deniers of Taqleed”.

The issue isn’t what is convincing to “Deobandees” the issue is to convince the masses of your opinion.

When people are refuted (at Muftisays) their ego is bruised because the same people are used to enjoying lofty titles in their (closed WhatsApp groups) and on Sunniforum so intense hatred develops between me and them, it is a fact.

When you surround yourself with those who worship you and fall for every word you say, it is not easy to be contradicted.

They know that that they are wrong but refuse to budge so as a result, I use colours, CAPS etc to make my point which annoys them even further.

The feeling is much more intense for South Africans and British Muslims because their environment is “Hazrat Worship” so they cannot imagine someone who is not an Alim challenging Ulama and asking probing questions etc.  Ulama or those who are not “Hazrat Worshippers” or are balanced Sufees like Dr76 and others get along with me just fine by IGNORING my habits or AGREEING/DISAGREEING where necessary.

The issue isn’t what I am saying but WHO I AM and HOW DARE I SAY IT! I could have and still can easily retreat and get back to being a “nice Hazrat Worshipper” boy and restrict myself to translating Malfoozat which most people publish (AFTER omitting my name)

Now let’s get back to the topic

Insha'Allah, withholding any further comments on the subject. The reason I said even that much to convey my point of view to the brother that I did not act out of spite.