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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 25th October 2018 23:34

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Uncle muadh sab. Is there a fuller version of that talk by Molana Salman Nadwi ? It seems to cut off at the end....

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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 2nd November 2018 11:10

01NOV2018: Saudi Arabia hosts US evangelical Christians, Israel supporters

www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/11/saudi-arabia-hosts-evangel...


The delegation was led on Thursday by communications strategist Joel Rosenberg and included former US congresswoman Michele Bachmann, according to an emailed statement from the group, as well as heads of American evangelical organisations, some with ties to Israel.

"It was an historic moment for the Saudi crown prince to openly welcome evangelical Christian leaders to the palace. We were encouraged by the candour of the two-hour conversation with him today," the statement said.

The delegation also met Saudi officials including Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir, Saudi Ambassador to Washington Prince Khalid bin Salman, and secretary-general of the Muslim World League Mohammed al-Issa.

Christian Evangelical Pro-Zionsts ask people to pray for Bin Salman

www.rawstory.com/2018/11/pray-crown-prince-michele-bachma...

“We’re under no illusions about the challenges that are in Saudi Arabia and that remain,” Rosenberg said. “But I think it’s respectful to go and listen to leaders who have the opportunity to make life better for Christians and Muslims and potentially for Israel as well and who are against the crazies in Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood.”


“I’d ask people to pray,” he added. “Pray for the (Jordanian) king, pray for the crown prince, pray for the people of Saudi Arabia — and I think it’s the right thing to do.”

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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 17th November 2018 11:13
www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/saudi-crown-prince-order...

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Washington: The CIA has concluded that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul last month, contradicting the Saudi government's claims that he was not involved.


Doubt anything will come off it but still very surprising if this is indeed what the CIA has concluded and even more so if it makes this finding known publicly.
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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 17th November 2018 12:23

17NOV2018:Jamal Khashoggi: CIA 'blames Saudi prince for murder'


www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-46245167


The CIA believes that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, according to US media reports.

Sources close to the agency said it had assessed the evidence in detail.

It is understood there is no "smoking gun" but US officials think such an operation would need the prince's approval.

Saudi Arabia has called the claim false and insisted that the crown prince knew nothing about plans for the killing.

It says Khashoggi was killed as a result of a "rogue operation".

Meanwhile, US Vice-President Mike Pence vowed on Saturday to hold Khashoggi's killers to account.

Speaking on the sidelines of a summit in Papua New Guinea, he said the US was "determined to hold all of those accountable who are responsible for that murder".

The journalist was killed in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on 2 October. His body has not been found.

Turkey insists the order to kill him came from the highest levels.

The Washington Post, which Khashoggi worked for, says the CIA assessment was based partly on a phone call made by the crown prince's brother, Prince Khaled bin Salman, the Saudi ambassador to the US.

Prince Khaled allegedly called Khashoggi at the direction of his brother and gave him assurances that he would be safe to go to the consulate.

Prince Khaled, now back in Saudi Arabia, said on Twitter that he had not been in contact with Khashoggi for nearly a year. He said he had never suggested Khashoggi - who had been in London for a conference until the day before his disappearance - should go to Turkey for any reason.

This denial is being carried prominently in Saudi media, the BBC's Sebastian Usher in Riyadh reports.

Neither the White House nor the US State Department has commented on the reports, but sources say they have been informed of the CIA's conclusions.

It is understood agents have also examined a call made to a senior aide of Crown Prince bin Salman by the team that carried out the killing.

Sources quoted in the US media stressed that there was no single piece of evidence linking the crown prince directly to the murder, but officials believe such an operation would have needed his approval.

"The accepted position is that there is no way this happened without him being aware or involved," the Washington Post quoted a source as saying.

What do the Saudis say happened to Khashoggi?

At a news conference in Riyadh on Thursday, Deputy Public Prosecutor Shalaan bin Rajih Shalaan said Khashoggi was given a lethal injection and his body was dismembered inside the consulate after his death.

The body parts were then handed over to a local "collaborator" outside the grounds, he added. A composite sketch of the collaborator has been produced and investigations are continuing to locate the remains.

Eleven people have been charged over the journalist's death and the prosecutor is seeking the death penalty for five of them.

Mr Shalaan did not identify any of those charged with the murder.

Khashoggi, who wrote a monthly column in the Washington Post, disappeared after entering his country's consulate in Istanbul to obtain a marriage document.

Turkish officials insist his murder was premeditated and carried out by a team of Saudi agents.

On Friday, funeral prayers took place for the murdered writer in Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

Khashoggi's son, Salah, met mourners in Jeddah while hundreds attended prayers in the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, as well as in Istanbul.

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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 17th November 2018 21:14
lol saudis have no shame or self respect. they have their heads so far up amerikkkas rear they still cant see how much even they despise them. bet msb will still be calling usa n cia great friends and allies after this leak
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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 19th November 2018 09:53

As mentioned above, Funeral prayers were held in Turkey and Saudi Arabia - including in hte Haramain.


Prayers performed for Jamal Khashoggi
in Makkah and Madinah


16 November 2018 

JEDDAH: Funeral prayers were performed for murdered Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the Grand Mosque in Makkah and the Prophet’s Mosque in Madinah Friday.

The congregation prayed the absentee funeral prayers for Khashoggi at the Grand Mosque in Makkah after Friday prayers, and another service was held for him at the Prophet’s Mosque in Madinah after the dawn prayer earlier in the day.

The prayers came a day after Saudi Arabia’s public prosecutor said it was seeking the death penalty for death five out of 11 suspects charged in the murder of Khashoggi.

Khashoggi was killed in Saudi Arabia’s Istanbul consulate on Oct. 2 by a lethal injection after a struggle, and his body was dismembered and taken out of the building, Shalaan Al-Shalaan, deputy public prosecutor and spokesman, told reporters in Riyadh on Thursday.

The investigation into Khashoggi’s death will continue and Foreign Minister Adel Al-Jubeir said Thursday that the Kingdom is committed to holding those involved in the murder accountable through the judiciary.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1405896/saudi-arabia

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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2018 08:20
The Prophet (salla Allah alayhi wa sallam) said, "There shall be rulers after me - you shall recognize [some good] in them, and reject [some evil]. So whoever rejects [that evil] shall not share in their sin, and whoever hates [that evil] shall be safe. However, that shall not be the case for the one who is pleased and follows along [meaning: he shall be punished]" Reported by Muslim.
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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2018 17:51
www.yahoo.com/news/transcript-tape-recording-revealing-ja...

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"Let my hand go. Who do you think you are? Why are you doing this?" the report quotes Khashoggi as saying, as several members of an alleged 15-man “hit squad” accost him as soon as he enters the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on Oct 2.

"You traitor! Your day of judgment has come!" a man alleged to be Maher Mutreb, the suspected oordinator of the mission who worked for some time in the kingdom’s embassy in London, is quoted as replying to the Washington Post columnist.


What a gruesome end! MBS has messed up big time. Let's see if he will suffer the consequences. With such solid evidence available, the US should have no excuses left to make for him. Not that they are not trying though to cover it up.
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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2018 18:40
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nothing will happen and why should it? saudis have killed 1000s in yemen yet nothing but this 1 man is somehow beyond the pale? even muslims who talk like this make me sick. we call ourselves an ummah yet dont say a word about saudis killing yemenese cos uncle sam allows it but now that the west is against this killing we too now jump on the bandwagon. in all honesty we dont really deserve Allahs help and think we need a bigger hiding all across the world until we come back to our senses.

as for MbS he will just keep a low profile for a bit a give it a few weeks a something else will be in the news to take away all the attention on him and he will be back. wouldnt be surprised if he became a hero in next few weeks by some how foiling a 'terrorist' attack or providing some intelligence to the west and everyone will forget khashoggi.
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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2018 19:24
Yamen is indeed a bigger tragedy than khashoggi...

Saudi and its allies are responsible for the bloodshed as much as Houthi and Iran. It is a war between the two parties. Iran’s involvement in yamen and its instigation of Houthi rebellion was a clever strategic move with ulterior motives,part of a bigger plan to encircle Saudi by ensuring Iran’s physical presence and military/political influence from Iraq to Syria to Lebanon and yamen. They also wanted to keep Saudi and its allies slowly bleeding in Yamen and wasting their resources on a protracted war. The west supported Saudi’s to keep their arms industries flourishing.

If we have to condemn Saudi and its allies,which is justified on account of their indiscriminate use of overwhelming force,we must also condemn Iran for starting the bloody conflict to begin with and then by keeping the flames of war burning by nonstop supply of weapons to Houthis...

Those responsible for the murder of khashoggi should be made accountable,but not at the cost of the integrity of Saudi state and the well being of its people. The way the royal family is entrenched in the state apparatus,any move by the west against MBS may ultimately lead to the obliteration of state structure along with its royals. We may then see a fractured country without a government for a good period of time with its resources at the disposal of Kuffar,and the entire Middle East in turmoil in the absence of one of the most potent symbols of stability in the region. The only beneficiaries of such a situation will be the enemies of this Ummah.

Some influential and powerful groups in the west and America may be itching for that kind of outcome.No matter how much we dislike MBS,caution is required....
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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 20th November 2018 20:44
dnt get me started on iran or shias. im not for one second suggestion the filthy rawaafid dogs are blameless my issue is the hypocricy of muslims and non muslims who find this murded as some kind of red line yet not the other crimes saudi has committed. look how many ulema have died in prisons or even some princes have been killed.

as for this journalist ( Allah grant him jannah) but what can west do? israhell kills journalists all the time. west bark about this killing and even russias involment in salisbury yet have we forgetten 16yo abdur rahman awalki? the entire world is just full of two faced nations. everyone just looking out for their own. trumps said today he wont do anything do saudi even though mbs is most likely behind this killing yet he attacking imran khan. why? saudi has $$$ and pakistan doesnt
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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 21st November 2018 09:26
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Yamen is indeed a bigger tragedy than khashoggi,I agree !

The difference is citizenship unfortunately. That's why one individual will be given the headlines over millions of Muslims. That's how it works in the world politics and media.
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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 21st November 2018 16:33
www.thedailybeast.com/pompeo-gave-saudis-plan-to-shield-c...

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During his trip to the kingdom last month, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo reportedly provided Saudi Arabia with a detailed plan on how to make sure Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman was protected from the fallout over writer Jamal Khashoggi’s murder—and possibly pin the killing on an innocent person.

Well, there you go.
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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 29th September 2019 20:45
King Salman’s personal long time bodyguard was killed last night. Some conspiracy theorists are saying he was killed by MBS.
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#45 [Permalink] Posted on 30th September 2019 09:35
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Life is too short for conspiracy theories. Don't see why mbs needs to kill him. He was also the body guard of abdullah too. If mbs really was behind it im sure 'uncle' salman will put his son in his lane.

Mbs today took responsibility for jamals murder saying as leader he is responsible for actions of Saudis but denied knowing about the plot or ordering it
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