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#121 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2018 06:24

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Maybe I'm thinking in a childish and irrational way..

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#122 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2018 13:29

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I too am somewhat disappointed with PTI,but it is too early to call them a failure.

Yes! Calling them a failure at this point is not rational. However, Ik must sort out the secular mob in his party and throw them out immediately. Otherwise...

he is doomed to fail.

Heard this incident from my family elders so please correct me if I am wrong.

Once Syeddina Ali RA was asked by his companions that in the times of first two caliphs there was no fitnah while in your time there is a lot of unrest. Why is it that way?

He replied (paraphrasing) "The previous khulafa RA got me as their advisor and my advisors are you".

Chou Enlai, once advised Z.A.Bhutto to get rid of feudal lords because he can't implement socialism while his party members have such a contrasting difference between each other. Some are from poor families and some are feudal lords. Z.A.Bhutto didn't pay heed to his advice and faced the consequences.

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#123 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2018 04:54

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Agreed !

But the ground reality is,that he has got a very thin majority in the house,and most of his allies are not trust worthy. He will have great difficulties to pass even a simple bill in the parliament. Big changes require big support from the parliament and he has not got it...

One may say that he can leave it all if he can't perform/deliver or he should not have put himself in this situation to begin with,but in that case the same old corrupt politicians would have formed a government and loot and plunder would have continued. Today,at least at the top level,massive corruption iis not seen....

Then,it is his age....

Had he not grasped the opportunity this time,who knows about the election 5 years later ? So he may have thought he should give it a try...

The road ahead is not easy for him.The opposition can remove him anytime through perfectly legal means if they want,as they are masters of such games.The reason they are not touching his government is :

1) They want to deflate his phenomenon by giving him a chance to rule over an extremely difficult economic situation,they know how terrible it is,because it was them who created this mess...

2) The powerful establishment is 'still' supporting him and are in no mood to bring the corrupt old politicians back to power

3) They want IK to make all the difficult (and unpopular) decisions and steer the country out of the economic quagmire so that when old corrupts eventually come back to power they have a stable economy and an easy go...

The political system in Pakistan is failed and the constitution need some fundamental changes. One person,even if sincere and honest,may not be able to bring any positive change...

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#124 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2018 05:22

We will not see any positive change in Pakistan until and unless the Deep State operating behind the scenes is brought under control by someone who really is sincere about the country. At first glance, Imran Khan did appear to be that sincere person, but I have come to realize he was more interested in a position of power than bringing about any REAL change in Pakistan. Unfortunately he is just a lackey now in the hands of the real power players who have given him a script on how to go about playing the role of PM while they themselves suck the country dry under the guise of patriotism.

Unfortunately for the country even the religious elements in Pakistan are too "soft" and ineffective to be able to wrest control from those in power. I guess the only thing for an average Pakistani to do right now is to concentrate on just personal islah for the time being, nothing else can be done.

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#125 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2018 08:05

Maulana Fazlur-Rahman Sahab shows concern that Kartarpur Border will allow easy access to Qadianis.

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#126 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2018 09:06

Just heard the exact same speculation by a Maulana who was giving the bayan before Jummah prayer a few minutes ago. I guess it sounds far-fetched to the average mind but the recent developments in Pakistan do point towards a concerted effort being made to normalize Qadiyanism so I wouldn't rule this out as a conspiracy theory just yet. Imran Khan has previously shown to carry a soft spot for them not to mention that the powers behind him who are actually running Pakistan have been known to include elements from the Qadiyanis. May Allah protect us from this fitnah and all the other ones, too.

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#127 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2018 09:27

Navjot Singh Sidhu is also praising Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani in this video.

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#128 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2018 10:01

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Are you being affected by "Maulana" Fazlur-Rahman?

Qadiyan is a constituency in Punjab and there have been tons of politicians who have been there, when they go there they will obviously praise Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani like Muslim politicians go to interior Sindh and they will praise Hindu religious figures.

Are you sure that this is a new video and linked to the corridor OR something which “Maulana”’s Hazrat worshippers found on YouTube? Because I suspect he wouldn’t be able to tell East Punjab from West Punjab on a map.

On one hand, Deobandees believe that Qadiyanees are so powerful that they are able to affect British, American, Indian, Israeli Government and even UN.

On the other hand, Deobandees are now postulated that Qadiyanees are so weak that they need a sealed corridor to enter Pakistan.

Both of these cannot be correct at the same time, think about it.

I am not discussing the Aqeedah aspects of Qadiyanees they are Non-Muslims, I am discussing the latest conspiracy theory being peddled by “Maulana” Fazlur-Rahman

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#129 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2018 10:06

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Nah seems like an old video, and I'm not affected by anything. I just shared the video!

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#130 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2018 10:17

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"The Kartarpur Corridor (Urdu: کرتارپور راہداری‬‎) is a proposed border corridor between neighbouring countries of India and Pakistan, connecting the Sikh shrines of Dera Baba Nanak Sahib (located in Punjab, India) and Gurdwara Darbar Sahib Kartarpur (in Punjab, Pakistan).The corridor is intended to allow religious devotees from India to visit the Gurdwara in Kartarpur, 4.7 kilometres (2.9 miles) from the Pakistan-India border, without a passport or visa."

The visa free corridor applies to this limited passageway of 4.7 kilometre. It does not include the rest of east or west Punjab.

Indeed both Qadian and Rabwah are located in east and west Punjab respectively,but if they are not included in the visa free corridor,I don't know how it can help Qadianis on either side of border ?

If somehow it still fascilitates Qadianis,the Kartarpur border should be immediately closed,but I doubt it....

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#131 [Permalink] Posted on 30th November 2018 10:26

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My comments in this thread were harsh and out of line towards Maulana Fazlur-Rahman (HA) so I would like to retract them.

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#132 [Permalink] Posted on 1st December 2018 14:30

BTW, this train of thought being propagated by Maulana Fazlur Rehman and other ulema in Pakistan right now regarding the Kartarpur corridor isn't something that has just appeared out of nowhere. This is something that was predicted in his book (Tehreek e Khatam e Nabuwat) by one of the great proponents of the Khatam e Nabuwat movement Agha Shorish Kashmiri (RA) that the Sikh and the Qadiyanis will come together to secure a separate Sikh-Qadiyani homeland and that they will be aided in this venture by international powers.

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#133 [Permalink] Posted on 1st December 2018 16:28

TLP leader Khadim Hussain Rizvi booked under treason, terrorism charges: information minister

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#134 [Permalink] Posted on 1st December 2018 16:37

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My hatred for Fawad Chowdhary has increased.

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#135 [Permalink] Posted on 1st December 2018 16:53

Khadim Hussain Rizvi may have his faults but there is absolutely no doubt about why the charges these have been brought up against him. For standing up for the honor of Prophet SAW. They want to squash that movement out of existence so that no one can stand up to the government again like this when they finally get Aasia out of the country. Maulana Sami ul Haq's murder was also most likely for this very reason. To send a message.

Imran Khan may very well be architecting not only the destruction of his own government but also that of Pakistan as we know it. I pray to Allah that someone knocks some sense into him and his secular buddies before they subject us all to the wrath of Allah.

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