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#541 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2024 13:07

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Or war. But again Taleem and Tarbiyat on a mass scale is what is necessary.

War seems like the likely outcome that will foster change.

"Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times." The quote, from a post apocalyptic novel by the author G. Michael Hopf, sums up a stunningly pervasive cyclical vision of history.

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#542 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2024 13:52

He's not the first politician and will not be the last to be jailed.

The former Pakistani prime minister Nawaz Sharif was sentenced to 10 years in prison for corruption in 2018. This was mere 19 days before the elections.

This time the former Pakistani prime minister imran khan has been sentenced to 10 years in prison. This is mere 9 days before the elections.

History Always Repeats Itself.

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#543 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2024 14:20

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I didn't want to talk about that, but yes. Muslims of today don't have the stomach to process this politically incorrect opinion that if you want change in the short term, then war is the only solution. What I suggested was a VERY long term solution. So long that most people today would not be motivated to work towards it given the fact that any change it would bring about would be when the people of today are already in their graves.

There is a clip of Naeem Butt of Tablighi Jamaat that talks about this. He talks about how when he talked to Imran Khan once he suggested to him that the decline of the Pakistani society can only be stopped by reverting to deen and Imran Khan impatiently dismissed that idea saying it would take a long time. I am paraphrasing but this is the gist of what IK meant to have told him.

So this is another problem that the Muslims as a whole are up against. They want to see the days of the Sahaba رضي الله عنه but they don't care if those days are seen by their future progeny, they want to see it for themselves. But the one solution that would make it happen as quickly as they desire is the one they fear the most.

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#544 [Permalink] Posted on 30th January 2024 15:48

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Our condition of moral corruption and greed is such that any conflict would result in a multitude of disparate groups fighting each other trying to carve out a personal thiefdom for themselves. And all groups aligned and backed by different foreign powers.

We seen this elsewhere in places such as Somalia, Yemen, Libya etc.

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#545 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2024 07:01

اِنَّ اللّٰهَ اشۡتَرٰى مِنَ الۡمُؤۡمِنِيۡنَ اَنۡفُسَهُمۡ وَاَمۡوَالَهُمۡ بِاَنَّ لَهُمُ الۡجَــنَّةَ ؕ يُقَاتِلُوۡنَ فِىۡ سَبِيۡلِ اللّٰهِ فَيَقۡتُلُوۡنَ وَيُقۡتَلُوۡنَ وَعۡدًا عَلَيۡهِ حَقًّا فِى التَّوۡرٰةِ وَالۡاِنۡجِيۡلِ وَالۡقُرۡاٰنِ ؕ وَمَنۡ اَوۡفٰى بِعَهۡدِهٖ مِنَ اللّٰهِ فَاسۡتَـبۡشِرُوۡا بِبَيۡعِكُمُ الَّذِىۡ بَايَعۡتُمۡ بِهٖ ؕ وَذٰلِكَ هُوَ الۡفَوۡزُ الۡعَظِيۡمُ

Surely, Allah has bought their lives and their wealth from the believers, against (a promise) that Paradise shall be for them. They fight in the way of Allah, and kill and are killed - a promise on His part which is true (as made) in the Torah and the Injil and the Qur'an. And who can fulfill his covenant more than Allah? So, rejoice in the deal you have made, and that is the great achievement.

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#546 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2024 07:22

This is ajeeb in pakistan.

sports team loses, Captain is changed.
When ruling party loses in election its leader is either hanged or sent to jail for life.
It is continuing for decades.
And military and foreign powers are blamed for this, every pakistani is baa yazeed bustani and hasan basri. Why do they accommodate the foreigners to control them.

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#547 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2024 07:55

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Just because a person is disobedient towards Allah himself, doesn't mean the Shaytan has stopped trying to make him disobedient. These two things can go together. So every Pakistani knows they themselves are at fault for whatever mess they are in, but that doesn't mean the enemies of Pakistan have stopped plotting against them. Also doesn't mean the military is free from blame. All these things go together.

But like I said before, admitting that we ourselves are at fault and then rectifying those faults is a long term solution and no one wants to think of that because that means a change happening long after we are dead. That's why people look for shorter term solutions like changing the captain of the team, or blaming it on the foreigners.

If you cannot understand why people look for short term solutions then you don't even understand basic human nature.

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#548 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2024 08:00

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While that is true, conditions of war in a country do help in achieving one objective for which I see absolutely no other way to do it. Removing the people's attachment from this dunya. At the moment due to abundance of wealth even in Muslim countries, the Muslim Ummah is steeped deeply into love for their personal possessions and wealth. To get their hearts out of it through lectures and sermons is almost impossible at this stage. In a state of war when they see their material possessions and desires being destroyed, that will jolt them back to reality like nothing else can.

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#549 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2024 08:37

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Democracy doesn't suit here. Gen Ayub Khan, Gen Zia RA, General Musharraf only can bring stability.

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#550 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2024 08:45

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Earthquakes, floods, covid didn't change them. What else can bring change?

They have a model, follow Malaysia. Their HDI, economy is much better than India.

Compete with each other, no time for unnecessary activities.

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#551 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2024 10:21

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I am old enough to remember the floods that happened in Pakistan circa 1992. Hundreds of bodies were being washed a shore with fingers, hands, and arms amputated. The morally corrupt opportunists were mutilating dead corpses in order to remove and steal gold jewellery from them, rings, bangles, earrings, nose rings etc.

During the Earthquake in 2005, millions of dollars were stolen and did not reach those in need. And whatever aid did reach those areas, people who were not even afflicted by the Earthquake were travelling to the locations in order to steal donated items in order to sell them in bazaars in their local areas.

Sure many people are forced to reflect on the transitory nature of this world. During times of calamity, and turn towards ALLAH and start focusing on the Akhirah. But many more are infused with selfishness and greed and see it as an opportunity to enrich themselves.

This is also reflected amongst the non-Muslims, there was huge looting when America was struck with Hurricane Katrina. During covid we had people in these western countries fighting in supermarkets over things such as toilet paper.

Only place I have seen in recent years were people struck with a calamity, maintained discipline, composure, put collective interest before personal interest. And made sure everyone’s else’s needs were fulfilled as well as their own was in Japan in 2011. After the tsunami.

What separates the Japanese from the rest. They teach morals, manners, and ethics, to young children in primary schools even before they begin a formal education. It is embedded in them since early childhood.

This was the way of the Muslims before being colonised by the Europeans. A child was taught Adaab, before formal studies and education. They were given values that lasted them a life time, and which passed from one generation to the next.

And ALLAH knows best.

اللهم إني أعوذبك من الكفر و الفقر و عذاب القبر (سنن أبو داؤود , سنن نسائي)
‘O Allah I take your refuge from kufr, poverty and punishment in grave’

اللهم إني أعوذ بك من الشقاق و النفاق و سوء الأخلاق
This hadith can be found in Sunan Abu Dawud and Nasai. It means;
‘O Allah! I take your refuge from quarrelling, hypocrisy and bad manners’

In the first Dua above Kufur and poverty a mentioned together.

In the second quarrelling, hypocrisy and bad manners are mentioned together perhaps the reason is that those things are intertwined. And one thing leads to another, and in order to fortify ourselves we need seek ALLAH’s assistance, and develop and teach our younger and future generations the life skills to not succumb to them or be ruined by them.

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#552 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2024 10:21

وَلَنُذِيقَنَّهُم مِّنَ ٱلۡعَذَابِ ٱلۡأَدۡنَىٰ دُونَ ٱلۡعَذَابِ ٱلۡأَكۡبَرِ لَعَلَّهُمۡ يَرۡجِعُونَ

And We will certainly make them taste the nearer punishment before the greater punishment, so that they may return.

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#553 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2024 10:50

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Unfortunately our pious elders were busy with inter group enmity, shia vs sunni, deoband vs barelvi, ahlussunnah vs qadiani, JI vs deoband, ahlussunnah vs salafees, mamati vs hayati, hardcore vs soft etc etc.

Lessons on ethics took backseat. If someone stressed on ethics, he was called backward mullah, Everyone's slogan was "Imaan is priority, rest can wait" .

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#554 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2024 12:25

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Of those the battle against the Qadiani fitnah was much needed. And Qadianiyat itself was a creation of the British.

Although I understand the overall point you were trying to make.

The fact is the British, French, and other European countries. Colonised most of the Muslim world.

And one of the tools employed by them in efforts to dismantle Islam. Was to separate the secular academic education from the religious education.

That did untold damage and the effects are being felt to this day.

Mufti Taqi Usmani
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ruhaniqalb.com/2016/03/23/the-state-of-the-education-syst...

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#555 [Permalink] Posted on 31st January 2024 12:55

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That only works if those generals are sincere with the country and not trying to gather personal wealth through their positions. Also, with the morally corrupt military officers that we have such a setup can only work if the people are kept in a Dajjali confusion and illusion. Which was possible back in the 70s and 80s, but now with the advent of social media, these "emperors" have now been stripped naked. They can no longer get away with doing whatever they want. Sooner or later they will be faced with resistance from the gen. pop.

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