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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 27th March 2016 14:26
the attackers have been identified

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 27th March 2016 16:46
Looks like Junaid Jamshed is getting hit from all sides...The Secular Liberals hate him for becoming religious, the Deobandis are distancing themselves from him for maintaining certain Liberal modes of behaviour and associations, and bringing controversy.
The Barelvis and Shia hate him for being Deobandi.

Here is an article written in the American owned News Week Pakistan...By a Pro-Western Secularist. Ejaz Haider.

WHEN A BIGOT GETS BIGOTED…
What happened to former-singer-turned-cleric-proselytizer Junaid Jamshed at Islamabad Airport on the evening of March 26 is not only disturbing but also instructive. Jamshed, to put it mildly, is a misogynist bigot. He wasn’t always like this. He sang beautifully and had a large following of admirers. Then he transformed, Samsaesque-like, into a verminous state and has grown pathetic every day since then.

Yet, the very values he abhors today and rants against must force those of us who hold those values dear and consider their application universal to condemn, in no uncertain terms, the attack on his person by passengers professing the Barelvi denomination for an “offence” he caused last year and for which he showed penance.

But his apology was not enough, at least not for the Barelvis because Jamshed practices the Deobandi denomination. Unlike those who are variously branded, contemptuously and pejoratively, as “libidos” or “libtards”, the faithful of the elusive ummah operate on the basis of exclusion rather than inclusion. Jamshed’s expiation means nothing for the Barelvis. He needed to be sorted out. Some of them got the opportunity at the airport and went for it.

But having seen the grainy video, my question is very basic. What were the Airports Security Force personnel doing when this hooliganism was started by passengers the reports describe as activists of Sunni Tehreek, an extreme Barelvi group headquartered in Karachi. Within the premises of all airports, the enforcement of law and rules is the responsibility of ASF. They are supposed to arrest troublemakers, smugglers and other wrongdoers and then hand them over to the police concerned. In this case, what is visible in the video is a couple of them trying to extricate Jamshed from the Tehreek hooligans. But no attempt is made to neutralize the Tehreek activists. Nor am I aware of any arrests made so far or anyone handed over to the police.

There’s no pleasure in seeing Jamshed being harassed and beaten. The issue goes beyond his person and his often abominable positions. It’s about rule of law and state’s responsibility to ensure the safety and protection of its citizens and to arrest and prosecute those who have developed the tendency to violate laws on the basis of faith. The ASF failed in performing this function and that should be a cause for deep concern for all law-abiding citizens traveling by air.

In this particular case, these hooligans had traveled to Rawalpindi for the chehlum (40th day of mourning) of Mumtaz Qadri, the policeman who murdered, deceptively, Salmaan Taseer, the Punjab governor. While these hooligans only abused and roughed up Jamshed, they displayed the same righteous, vigilante, supra-law mindset that Qadri did. Everyone of these Tehreek activists, getting an opportunity, is likely to act like Qadri. Ironically, these people, as also the hundreds of thousands who mourned Qadri, are, for the most part, ordinary Joes and Janes. They are not what we call terrorists. Yet, just like the Deo-Salafi terrorist groups, these people use the same exclusionary discourse and exhibit the same contempt for laws and rules that galvanizes the terrorists.

The terrorists one can fight, using military power as also other law enforcement mechanisms. But what about these extremist tendencies? How must they be fought? Many analysts fault the state (governments) for not doing enough. In so doing they miss an important point: the state hung Qadri by the neck until he died. He was put on death row for having committed murder. But what must the state do if large sections of society turn up to both celebrate the act committed by Qadri and to mourn his death?

The question becomes even more pressing because, as noted above, all such people are motivated by the same sense of righteousness and contempt for the law which made Qadri do what he did without any remorse. Clearly, no state can start arresting, prosecuting and incarcerating hundreds of thousands of its citizens. And not just because certain freedoms are guaranteed in the Constitution. People can’t be stopped from attending the funeral of and sacralizing even a murderer—nothing can be done until a crime has been committed.

The issue becomes even more nettlesome when we move to another problem: mob violence. There have been innumerable incidents of mob violence in this country either for religious or even ethnic and sectarian reasons. Nothing really comes of it. Even when the leaders and instigators get arrested, they can find multiple loopholes in the law to get out.

The state can use a mix of kinetic and non-kinetic means against terrorist groups. But extremism, unless it crosses the line, requires more deft, long-term strategies. This mindset was not created overnight; it won’t vanish overnight.

And that is where one must indeed fault the state for not moving fast enough to take those steps which can begin to bear fruit in the medium to long term. They would require long overdue constitutional changes, including ridding that document of its many contradictions; changes in the syllabi; effective measures against mob violence (it should be considered terrorism); moving against clerics who use Islam to further their agendas et cetera.

It will be a long haul. It will be tedious. It won’t be easy in a democracy that is totally illiberal and uses numbers to advance illiberal causes. Yet, what needs to be done, howsoever difficult, must be done. No one must be publicly or privately intimated even when it is someone as bigoted as Mr. Jamshed.

Haider is editor of national-security affairs at Capital TV. He was a Ford Scholar at the Program in Arms Control, Disarmament and International Security at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and a Visiting Fellow at the Brookings Institution, Washington, D.C. He tweets @ejazhaider

The opinions expressed in this column are the author’s own and do not necessarily reflect, in part or whole, those held by Newsweek Pakistan.
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 27th March 2016 17:02
Here is a secular liberal from the western owned Pakistan Today magazine.

“And there was no one left to speak for me…”

BY MUHAMMAD ASIF NAWAZ

Giving in to fear, hatred and violence

Social media is abuzz with a video breaking the internet. Again. It has to do with mob violence. Again. It’s brazenly emblematic of the lows our society has hit in hypocrisy and bigotry. Again. It has divided the internet. Again. But the voices will die down as soon as they’ve appeared springing into the air. Again. And this is the part that demands the most immediate attention from us. We have to devise a cumulative voice and paint our cities with it: we’ve had enough!

Junaid Jamshed. Singer. Musician. Preacher. Evangelist. Fashion outlet owner. TV host. But sadly overshadowed by the most recent identity enamoured to him: a potential blasphemer. And this newfound facade landed him into trouble at the Benazir Bhutto International Airport, where he was manhandled and abused by a group of self-righteous lunatics. The reason? Jamshed committed what is spuriously, undefinably known as blasphemy. Like Aasia Bibi. Like Salmaan Taseer. Like the Christian couple burned alive in a brick-kiln. Or not? Jamshed was at least allowed a national apology and the liberty to seek refuge in the ‘secular’ (something he has never taken kindly to) London. We thought he had been saved. Surely the bloodthirsty hounds would have laxer terms for a bearded preacher than they do for sleazy liberals and hell-bound Christians? We were wrong!

I’ve never been a fan of Junaid Jamshed. I don’t have much of an opinion about him, and as long as middle class consumerism has an appetite for splurging on his over-priced apparel, it’s not my business. What happened to him was deplorable, more so by the fact that no airport security jumped in to Jamshed’s rescue. It was unfortunate, and most certainly scary. But unfortunate events offer a great window to introspection. I’m not thrusting undue responsibility on to Jamshed’s shoulders, but one wonders if things could have been a little different had Jamshed, who enjoys enormous popularity and followers, lent two sentences for those who came under fire before him. While he agreed to be an emphatic authority on telling us how a chips selling company was halaal contrary to propaganda, he could have done better, for himself if not for us, to also shed some kind light to the cause of those caught in the frenzied blasphemy web. Maybe that’s insanely unjust to expect so much. But in all fairness, he should have known better than to associate himself with Aamir Liaquat Hussain on television, who never bats an eye, not for a nanosecond, while denouncing and soliciting violence for some communities in broad daylight.

But those are bygones. It’s fruitless and in bad taste to dwell upon those. Pakistan today is a dangerous country for Junaid Jamshed, much along the same lines it is dangerous for us. And that’s my whole point of contention with the man — he could have contributed to keeping it safer, even though meekly, but his choice! The people who harassed him in the lobby practised their choice. But as a nation, it seems we cannot afford choices anymore. Not really.

The truth is facing us from the wall. The fire of hatred and violence has gone way beyond the ring of turpentine. It has taken on a scaffold, and is no more partial towards beards and shalwar kameez. If it has caught on with somebody who’s been a religious preacher for most of the last seventeen years, it’s only natural it will torch others under the shadow of the crescent moon too. Some on social media are rejoicing this episode. It’s retribution for Junaid or something to the same effect is what they’re celebratory about. Except that, it’s not. It’s plainly another reminder of the all-consuming violence around us. A desperate call for us to reclaim our voices, readjust our dented passions and reject any idea remotely associated with self-righteousness and violence. If allowed to progress, there’s no doubt that those who claim to be on a higher pedestal will find a way to violently contend with things as innocuous as an uncovered female head or a shaved male face. It was Rimsha Masih yesterday. It is Junaid Jamshed today. It can by anyone among us tomorrow.

Our over-hyped National Action Plan seems to be indulged in a luxurious siesta for quite some time now. But in case it wakes up, let us take it upon ourselves to remind it that it has some arrests to make, of those attackers who evidently home a lot more hatred for humanity than they have, if any, love for our Prophet (PBUH). Their identities are out, and the expectation’s fitting for a state that we think is out to make amends. In the meanwhile, we ought to stop pandering to twisted religious provocation. While lines are already drawn between the strata of the community, let’s remind ourselves it isn’t a liberals versus conservatives issue. It’s a humanity issue. Instead of finding enemies on the other side, we would do well to see the enemy clearly: bigots, no matter which side they belong to. We need to inculcate a national narrative that’s far more forgiving and far less gory. Aasia Bibi asked for forgiveness. Junaid Jamshed asked for forgiveness. That is where these episodes should’ve ended for good. We know we’ve had enough bloody climaxes already to last us till the end of days.
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 27th March 2016 19:24
Someone posted on facebook:
ایک بیٹی حبیبہ طلعت Habiba Talat کا خط جنید جمشید ( JJ ) کے نام؛؛

ایک خط جنید جمشید صاحب کے نام !!!!

کل آپ کے ساتھ جو ہوا اس افسوسناک واقعہ پر معذرت نہیں کرونگی ۔۔۔۔اس لئے کہ پاکستانی قوم اخلاقیات سے کسی قدر دور ہے ۔مگر اتنا ضرور ہے کہ قصور آپ کا ہی ہے ۔۔۔جی ہاں آپ کا ہی ۔۔۔۔۔آپ کو کیا پڑی تھی کہ پلٹ پلٹ کر اس ملک میں آتے ہیں جہاں آپ جیسوں کی کوئی جگہ نہیں ۔۔۔آپ کو چاہئے تھا کہ اپنا کاروبار اور اپنے اثاثے سوئیس بینکوں میں منتقل کر دیتے ۔۔تو قوم آپ سے کچھ نہ پوچھتی ۔۔۔۔آپ کو چاہئے تھا کہ گلف یا یورپ میں دھڑا دھڑ جائیداد بناتے تو قوم کو کیا واسطہ ۔۔۔۔آپ کو چاہئے تھا کہ ملک توڑنے اور ملک کے خلاف مسلسل سازشیں کرنے میں سیاسی اکابرین کا ساتھ دیتے تو قوم آپ کو سر آنکھوں پر بٹھاتی ۔۔۔۔اپنا سچا قائد و رہبر کہتی آپ کے گرد رہتی ۔۔۔۔۔اور کچھ نہیں تو آپ کو چاہئے تھا کہ انڈیا جا کر نغمے لکھتے ، گاتے یوں شہرت و دولت مفت ہاتھ آتی ۔۔قوم کے ساتھ میڈیا بھی آپ کو سر آنکھوں پر بٹھاتا ۔۔۔مگر آپ نے بھی وطن کی محبت میں سرشار دل دل پاکستان پر قناعت کر لی ۔۔۔چچچ چچ
ہمارے معاشرے میں سچے اور شریف کی کچھ عزت نہیں جو جتنا بڑا جھوٹا اور بدکار ہے اتنا ہی قوم کے حواسوں پر سوار ہے ۔۔۔جو جتنا بڑا مجرم ہے اسی قدر قوم کے ہاتھوں سے محفوظ ہے ۔۔۔۔۔۔ ۔

کل کی ویڈیو پر ہم سب ہی حیران و پریشان ہیں ۔۔۔چہروں پر داڑھیاں ہیں اور ماں بہن کی گالیاں دے رہے ہیں ۔۔جس ماں کی عظمت اقدس کے علمبردار ہیں اسی ماں کی بیٹیوں کے نام سر بازار اچھالے جا رہے ہیں ۔۔۔صد افسوس
ایک ایسی غلطی جو گستاخی کے زمرے میں نہیں آتی ۔۔جس پر آپ نے تحریری معافی بھی مانگ لی تھی ۔۔۔مگر اس ہجوم نے آپ کو معاف نہیں کیا ۔۔۔۔۔۔ہجوم جو جذباتی ، بھپرا ہوا اور منتقم مزاج بن چکا ہے ۔۔جو اپنی تمامتر مسائل کا حل گھیرنے اور مارنے میں تلاش کر چکا ہے ۔۔۔۔۔۔جب سیالکوٹ میں چوری کے شبہ میں دو حافظ قرآن جواں عمر بھائیوں کو بے دردی سے مار مار کر ہلاک کر چکا ہے ۔۔۔۔اس کے بعد تو چل سو چل ۔۔۔۔۔یہاں تک نوبت آگئی ہے ۔۔کل کو جب کوئی ہدف بھی نہیں رہے گا تو اسی ہجوم نے ایک دوسرے کو نوچ کھانا ہے ۔۔۔۔۔
نبی کے امتی ( ص ) جو کچھ کر رہے ہیں ۔۔۔کل کو جب حاضری ہوگی کیا عزر پیش کریں گے ۔۔کیا جواب ہوگا اس وقت ہجوم اور ہجوم کے رہنماوں کے پاس ۔۔۔۔۔
تم ہو آپس میں غضبناک وہ آپس میں رحیم
تم خطاکار و خطا بیں، وہ خطا پوش و کریم
چاہتے سب ہیں کہ ہوں اوج ثریا پہ مقیم
پہلے ویسا کوئی پیدا تو کرے قلب سلیم
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افسوس صد افسوس ان بھڑکانے والوں ، ملاوں اور لوگوں پر جو محض آگ لگانا ، آگ بھڑکانا ، اور آگ بگولہ ہونا جانتے ہیں ۔۔۔یہ سب آگ کے پجاری بن چکے ہیں ۔۔۔۔۔۔ صراط مستقیم اور فلاح سے اسی قدر دور آگ کے پرستار ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔
امید ہے کہ آپ کے دل میں رہی سہی وطن کی محبت بھی ختم ہو چکی ہوگی ۔۔اگر اب بھی باقی ہے تو آپکی استقامت اور جذبوں کو سلام ۔۔۔
فی امان اللہ تبارک و تعالی
تحریر؛حبیبہ طلعت؛
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 27th March 2016 19:39
جنید بهائی نے طائف کے واقعے کی یاد تازہ کردی
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 27th March 2016 19:56
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Translation..!

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 28th March 2016 20:21
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So what you want to see a situation like the following video where over excited Barelvi youngsters, grate crashed a lecture by a Salaafi preacher Murtaza Khan youtu.be/aef6CqSUgWE this situation ran the very real risks of getting out of control, across the country.

I heard a lecture by a Shaykh some time back he said and "I am paraphrasing youngsters get emotional and say we need to take a stand on this issue stand on that issue in the environment we are living they need to sit back down they will do more damage by taking their stands. And if you wanna stand up do so in Tahajjud and make longs Dua to ALLAH سبحانه وتعالى asking for his assistance, these are the best stands you can take".

I think you need to calm down bro; Let me tell you years ago on Ummah Forum a young sister appeared making belligerent remarks despite being told by other members to calm down she was defiant "I am standing for haq you people are cowards etc etc. " she finally came under the radar of the security authorities she was looking at a prison sentence lucky for her she came across a Judge who decided to let her off with a 9 month suspended sentence, she was even more fortunate that her conviction was over turned on appeal....
www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1...

Mufti Abu Bilal as you very well know for your average Barelvi deen is entirely based on emotion, vast majority have no knowledge of even the most basic issues they canmot construct a counter argument on any issue and quickly get emotional and resort to belligerence tit for tat violent confrontations are something we can do without in the U.K. I humbly request you take theses facts into account when responding to emotional youth in the U.K. some of them take what they read out of context,and take action that is highly inappropriate standing outside Barelvi Masajid , handing out leaflets or chanting you people are mushriks..Calling their own Barelvi Parents Mushrik and disconnecting with them.

We are a community under siege from a every angle being vilified on a daily level we could well do without this.


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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 29th March 2016 10:31

Back to Junaid Jamshed...

I don't condone this attack by whoever on Junaid Jamshed but I think its about time people woke up and realized that this guy is a showman and businessman of the highest order. His aim is to entertainment and nothing else.

Junaid Jamshed is NOW a bigger brand than what he would have been IF he would have stayed with Vital Signs. His fame and music would have lasted perhaps a decade or so and restricted to Pakistan (& India), his music would have come in a few Bollywood movies etc but NOW he is a GLOBAL BRAND.

  1. On one hand he talks about following the Sunnah, on the other hand he has Ramadhan TV shows with movies, music, women and the lot
  2. On one hand he talks about shunning entertainment, on the other hand he sponsors Karachi Kings at PSL
  3. On one hand he talks about shunning Music, on the other hand he releases his music single last year at 14th of August

He is not a new Muslim, he has access to top Ulama and its about time people placed him RIGHT WHERE he belongs i.e. entertainer.

Ulama in UK are DIRECTLY responsible for JJ because they know (I made sure they do) his music album release and YET they back him because he is a Deobandi. British Deobandees made him into a global brand what he is today, Pakistani Deobandees have always been a little weary.

One leading Alim had no choice but to admit 2 weeks ago that since he is ours (Deobandi) we have to have some forgiveness in our hearts. He said this clearly to me without mincing his words.

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 29th March 2016 17:59

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He was manhandled, kicked and punched by Barelwis just because he is Deobandi.

There wasn't any significant retalliation because of what you have mentioned.

But this can't be cosidered a justification for what has happened in any case.

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 29th March 2016 18:29

السلام عليكم

The issue of Junaid Jamshed getting beaten is wrong by all means..

The issue which colonel sahab seems to project is the silence of ulema who are near to him.. when he strayed out of the red line.. whether in speech or actions..

They should have kept him in check.. advised him when necessary..
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 29th March 2016 18:58
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The kind of background he came from an individual needs a lot of guidance a good few years away from the spotlight, instead he was encouraged to appear in media for "Dawah" and paraded around as a great accomplishment for Tabligh...same way some new converts who are still trying to find their footing get paraded around.

I think Junaid Jamshed is a victim on both counts.

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 30th March 2016 11:21

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I didn't justify his lynching and agree that it is wrong. What I am disagreeing with is that “new Muslim” excuse which has been ascribed to him for over 20+ years.

  1. He is NOT a Revert
  2. He is very knowledgeable in Sharia to the extent that he freely quotes Qur’aan and Hadeeth in Arabic (and does on the spot translations).
  3. It has been over 20+ years since he has been on this Path
  4. He has had extensive and detailed contact with Ulama so he has a very good idea about right vs wrong

BUT the reality is that because he is Deobandi people will defend him to the hilt….IF Dr Zakir Naik came out with a Music single knives would be out and all excuses would be put to pasture...Deobandees slate Maulana Maududi (RA) for 10% of what JJ has done and been doing.

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 30th March 2016 11:36
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Deobandees slate Maulana Maududi (RA) for 10% of what JJ has done and been doing.


Innaa lillaah.......
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 30th March 2016 11:53

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  1. Junaid Jamshed came out with a Music Album LAST YEAR when did Maulana Maududi (RA) ever endorse Music or participate in it?
  2. Junaid Jamshed regularly appears alongside women in a mixed setting, please tell me where Maulana Maududi (RA) did?Maulana Maududi (RA) was a STAUNCH segregation supporter all his life.
  3. Junaid Jamshed used loose language against Sayyida Aisha (RA) so did Maulana Maududi (RA)

No reason to become dramatic, just  your comments would be most appreciated.

BEFORE you have a heart attack, I am not backing Maulana Maududi (RA) I am saying that Deobandees go ballistic on far less when they criticise Non-Deobandees.

UNDERSTAND the point before raising your Blood Pressure.

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 30th March 2016 12:05
I agree with brother Muadh, and see where he is coming from.

And lol @ heart attack and raised blood pressure.
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