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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 16th December 2015 21:54
On twitter, brother sal younas mentioned something about dressing the same as the people around you i.e shirt and trousers. He also gave some evidence. What have brothers got to say about this?
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 17th December 2015 09:15
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There's nothing wrong in dressing in shirt and trousers for us in this country, although it would be considered disliked, but if he means dressing like them in terms of committing sins, shaving, exposing the awrah, trousers flowing below the ankles, removing the Hijab and so on, then this is not correct. I've only heard of imitating (for men) when in times of war. We are not at war in this country. In fact, we are defending this country from radicalisation, refuting radicals and their ideas, defending the religion, promoting the Deen and inviting everyone else towards Tawheed.

Then there's the Hadith about imitation. We are not supposed to imitate the non-believers, otherwise we will be raised with those whom we imitate.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 17th December 2015 10:22
Brother Salman has a point. This is the view of certain ulema. Imitation of the disbelievers with regards to clothing would not apply in the west generally as it is the dress of the local people but it would apply in a Muslim country where people imitate non-muslim nations. Both positions are fine. Personally it is better to dress in a manner closer to the sunnah but how many people wear lungi and turbuns? Those who argue about following the sunnah would find it hard to find hadith for their black jubbas, black hats etc which is the dress of many religious people in the UK. According to many ulema the shalwaar seems to be closer to the sunnah along with lungi, a hat and a turbun.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 17th December 2015 17:45
Mashaallah good stuff. Jazakallah khairan
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 18th December 2015 02:46
السلام عليكم

If something is to be discussed, then it should at least be made clear what is being discussed. I presume that the brother is referring to this tweet:

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The ʿUlamāʾ have written that it is permissible to wear the clothing of one's local culture as long as the clothing meets the requirements of the Sharīʿah. Mufti Abu Hajira has explained the ruling nicely here on AskImam.

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Mufti Abu Hajira (Faisal al-Mahmudi) wrote:
An item of clothing being associated to another religion may change due to place or time. By way of example, at one point in time in the Indian Subcontinent, pants and shirts were iconic of the British colonists. But in our times, if some person wears a dress pant or shirt, it does not cross an onlooker’s mind that this person is a non-Muslim or holds his allegiance to non Muslims. At the same time, while these dress pants and shirts will be permissible they would not be the ideal. This is because if an onlooker sees someone wearing pants and shirts, then although he will not think of the person as non-Muslim, at the same time he will never think of him to be an ‘Alim or an Ahl Allah. The perception of the common onlooker establishes that the dress is not those of Sulahā’ and ‘Ulamā’.[/quote]

Mufti Zameelur Rahman has also explained the matter of the Sunnah regarding clothing here in "Question One".

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[quote=Mufti Zameelur Rahman]The Sunnah, in its general usage, refers to a religious practice or belief established from the Prophet (sallAllāhu ‘alayhi wasallam) and his immediate successors. If it was Sunnah to adopt the lifestyle of the place one happens to be in, why did the Sahābah fail to do this, and why did the jurists fail to record it as such?

Far from being Sunnah, it is documented from one of the most prominent Sahābah that he advised the Muslims to stick to their traditional Arab attire, and not adopt the non-Muslim dress of those around them. The senior Tābi‘ī, Abū ‘Uthmān al-Nahdī (d. 95 H), said:

“‘Umar wrote to us, while we were in Azerbaijan…[He said:] Be wary of over-indulgence, the dress of the idolaters and silk clothing…” (Sahīh Muslim)

In another version, there is the addition:
“Hold fast to the dress of your father, Ismā‘īl (‘alayhissalām).” (Sahīh Abī ‘Awānah)

At the most, it is permissible to adopt the attire of the people of a region one happens to be in, as long as it does not contravene the stipulations of Sharī‘ah. And this appears to be the Mālikī view.


An ʿĀlim would have to explain how much weight there is to the opinion mentioned in the tweet (i.e. that wearing clothing which appears "foreign" to one's local culture is disliked).
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 18th December 2015 03:24
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Those who argue about following the sunnah would find it hard to find hadith for their black jubbas, black hats etc which is the dress of many religious people in the UK.


I am a little confused at why you say this. There are several narrations confirming the Masnoon status of black caps (topis) and turbans. See pg. 41 of The Crown of a Believer regarding black topis and pg. 22 of Turban, Kurta, Topee in the Light of the Sunnah regarding black turbans.

I don't know about aḥādīth regarding black upper garments specifically, but specific colors have not been mentioned as often for them in Shamāʾil-e-Tirmidhī, besides a few exceptions. You seem to be implying that one should wear white. It is correct that white clothing has been emphasized by Rasūlullāh (صلى الله عيله وسلم). However, I'm not sure whether the color would be considered an additional Sunnah or inherently part of the Sunnah of the overall dress.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 18th December 2015 17:12
I was once sitting in the company of maulana saleem. I asked him about some sunnah. He told that you can find a sunnah within a sunnah.
So using miswaak is sunnah. The way you hold it, the way you use it would constitute different sunnah acts. So, after revision of brother london786s statement i think he is partially wrong.
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