Please use this thread to give solid examples of contrasting information and why the narrative is problematic.
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Please use this thread to give solid examples of contrasting information and why the narrative is problematic.
Jzk
Abu Hafs al-Mauritani (Al-Qaeda Mufti) Interview: This is the ONLY Interview he has given, his claims are:
If you believe this Mufti then everything we believe is FALSE
If we believe everything else then what this Mufti says is FALSE
General Wesley Clark that ISIS was created by USA and Allies
GEN. WESLEY CLARK: Well, in a way. But, you know, history doesn’t repeat itself exactly twice. What I did warn about when I testified in front of Congress in 2002, I said if you want to worry about a state, it shouldn’t be Iraq, it should be Iran. But this government, our administration, wanted to worry about Iraq, not Iran.
I knew why, because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, “Sir, you’ve got to come in and talk to me a second.” I said, “Well, you’re too busy.” He said, “No, no.” He says, “We’ve made the decision we’re going to war with Iraq.” This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, “We’re going to war with Iraq? Why?” He said, “I don’t know.” He said, “I guess they don’t know what else to do.” So I said, “Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?” He said, “No, no.” He says, “There’s nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.” He said, “I guess it’s like we don’t know what to do about terrorists, but we’ve got a good military and we can take down governments.” And he said, “I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail.”
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, “Are we still going to war with Iraq?” And he said, “Oh, it’s worse than that.” He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, “I just got this down from upstairs” — meaning the Secretary of Defense’s office — “today.” And he said, “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” I said, “Is it classified?” He said, “Yes, sir.” I said, “Well, don’t show it to me.” And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, “You remember that?” He said, “Sir, I didn’t show you that memo! I didn’t show it to you!”
GEN. WESLEY CLARK: Oh, it’s always — there are always interests. The truth is, about the Middle East is, had there been no oil there, it would be like Africa. Nobody is threatening to intervene in Africa. The problem is the opposite. We keep asking for people to intervene and stop it. There’s no question that the presence of petroleum throughout the region has sparked great power involvement. Whether that was the specific motivation for the coup or not, I can’t tell you. But there was definitely — there’s always been this attitude that somehow we could intervene and use force in the region. I mean, that was true with — I mean, imagine us arming and creating the Mujahideen to keep the Soviets out of Afghanistan. Why would we think we could do that? But we did. And, you know, my lesson on it is, whenever you use force, there are unintended consequences, so you should use force as a last resort. Whether it’s overt or covert, you pay enormous consequences for using force.
GEN. WESLEY CLARK: ISIS got started through funding from our friends and allies… to fight to the death against Hezbollah.
Is this a case of a US General putting information in the public domain to satisify those who suspect things anyway?
For a number of years thre is ongoing tussle and disagreement between:
Everyone tries to say that NOTHING is happening between uncle and nephew and YET there are multiple lawsuits and disputes (in India and UK)
I mean what on Earth is going on? If you have a dispute say we disagree! Why:
Isn't the whole issue TAILOR-MADE to create huge confusion!!!
Surely Deobandi (Ulama and laymen) in Pakistan have known about this group for over a decade.
Deobandees clearly back Taliban, SO SURELY they have known about this group all along! Either they are with Taliban (of Afghanistan) or TTP Is a separate Khawarij group. Why over 10 years and countless lives??? As soon as Pakistan Government Policy changed (Army action), Deobandees changed.
W-Salam,
I honestly wish I knew!
This cannot be undone and I am sure it will be greatly appreciated.
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