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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 28th July 2015 06:06

Assalamualaikum ikhwan

how have you all been?

Thought I would share something that friends of mine are working upon currently:

www(dot)facebook(dot)com/massreporting

Online propaganda is one of the biggest recruitment tools of ISIS khawarij. This page of ours is dedicated to taking down ISIS pages, websites and twitter accounts. If you visit the page you can see we have had considerable success and we have successfully tracked down (and reported) pages and ISIS propagandists on facebook in Khorasan region. These days we are expanding into the arab world where ISIS has considerable support.

Like this page and join us in reporting ISIS accounts and pages to crush their recruitment on facebook and twitter. Join us so that another 16 December does not occur. Please share on your walls too and tweet it as much as possible

(Reporting again and again helps. Don't be frustrated if something isn't taken down the first time. I once reported a page's contents 19 times alone before it was taken down ;). Facebook wont help you if only you reported a page 100 times. It will work if 10 people reported 10 times each to make it 100 reports. Twitter responds very fast)

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 28th July 2015 06:18

wish you would put this much effort on anti - islamic pages and twitter accounts.

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 28th July 2015 06:44

how is ISIS not anti-islamic?

Besides these khawarij pronounce routine takfir on Muslims, slaughter them and declare their wives haram for them. This effort is to stop their online recruitment. I dont see secular extremist lot recruiting anyone to kill Muslims en masse.

Efforts should be done to report those accounts too but we have prioritized this work. Maybe others can open a front against secular extremists.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 28th July 2015 09:46

Let us leave the secular extremists aside only for a moment.
Let us take the regular seculars.
What has been their social, cultural, ideological, law and order as well as military attitude towards Islam and Muslims.
Let us take one branch of regular secular society - the liberal democratic society.
What has been its attitude towards Islam and Muslims.
Do not forget that you have been very brash with me both publicly and privately because you perceived me as a liberal democrat.
I was a Muslim then and I am a Muslim now.
I appreciate your boundless enthusiasm, I love it and I would like it to be protected.
At the moment the problem is of modulation and fine tuning your ideological stance.
Part of it is because of your own aseessment and part is because of the environment.
Unfortunately there is no reliable and enduring paradigm on ground to harness the energies of people like you.
Even then I would not like your energies to be dissipate on fruitless pursuits.
I would not like that you be wasted on those goals that do not contribute to the protection and welfare of the Ummah of the beloved Prophet (SAW).
At the moment you are doing precisely that.
Even if you were doing these things under the supervision of some agency, say US or NATO, then they will simply forget you and ignore you once their goal is achieved.
They did that in Afghanistan. They used Mujahideen against the USSR and once the USSR broke up then Mujahideen once again became a bad word. This much is just from yesterday.
At the moment I shall assume that you are acting on your own.
That is like a peacock dancing in the jungle. Who saw it? No one.
Thus there is no one to appreciate your efforts.

It is true that there is no ground level society for which enthusiastic Muslim youth can work for the betterment of Muslim Ummah. I do not think the current power players are going to allow any Islamic entity to take route - be it a country like Turkey, Egypt or Pakistan or be it an organization like OIC. And this is what should put a pain in our hearts. No helping the west till we have concrete proposal for our own interests.

Now what are our interests.
Unfortunately no one is defining these too.
I have been talking about these things for last few years but it has taken a long time for this was not my expertize.
I don't know whether you have been reading my posts or not but that is what I have been doing.

Our interests lie in regaining our social, cultural, theological, scientific, technological, military, political, economic, business and commercial space from the western encroachment upon it.

Till it becomes feasible to do the ground work for the same my humble suggestion is to spend time in doing the theoretical work to define above issues at intellectual level. This is real tiring work and it will become handy one day when Muslim Ummah gathers courage to look the west in the eyes and demand its due.

Till then even Tablighi Jamat is better then doing the thankless dirty job for the west. We have gigantic problems of our own and these should occupy our attention and consume our energies.

And never forget that I love you for the sake of Allah SWT.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 28th July 2015 10:44

This is not a fruitless pursuit. They spread their propaganda online and recruit members. These members then butcher Muslims by making takfir of them. See Saad Aziz's case in murder of Sabeen Mehmood.

This is not doing dirty job of west. This is to make sure these scum stay out of the minds of our youth. Tablighi Jamaat has its own purpose but it is not served here. Nor am I looking for any appreciation.

Theoretical work for regaining lost position of ummah is done and being acted upon as we speak. You may not agree with it or you may not know about it but it is true.

and btw I never perceived you as a liberal democrat, I simply chose to prefer the assessments of scholars over yours. You had nothing to give to me from islamic fiqh, only a rationale which I have seen fail with my own eyes.

wasalam

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 28th July 2015 11:04

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 28th July 2015 19:12

I live in UK and I honestly don't know anyone who overtly or covertly supposrts unIslamicstate.

I have no choice but to conclude based on personal (limited) experience that unIslamicstate is a bit exaggerated!

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 28th July 2015 23:37

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just to add on to that, although just like 99% of the uk muslims who also despise the UNislamic NOstate one thing that does annoy and concern me is when muslims race with one another in trying to please the kuffar by who can condemn ISIS the most and most harshly yet remain absolute silent when the oppression is done by the kuffar. its disgusting makes me wonder if such people are even muslim. take for example isis burning the jordanian pilot, without doubt it was evil and wrong but where is the condemnaiton for what he did and arab states are doing? you think them bombs they drop play lulllybys? or isis treatment of yazidis, whats happened to our sisters like aafia siddique and fatima at abu gharaib.

yes by all means condemn isis but for every 1 minture you condemn them you should spend an hour talking about the muslims the kuffar have killed. its far more than what the clowns of isis have done

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 29th July 2015 08:51

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you just have to keep an eye out on facebook and twitter. Mostly people linked with mizanur rahman and/or the late abu abdullah al-britani

then once supporters are found you report them daily and ask others to do so to get their accounts removed. whenever they make a new account you report it. they comment on same pages, its very easy tot rack them.

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 29th July 2015 08:56

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What Muadh Khan is trying to say is that to say that love for ISIS in UK is rampant is a travesty of truth.
The man who started this thread is sending that impression. Khan Sahab is countering that. This is the impression i got from his post.

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 29th July 2015 08:57

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i like your username...you must love old trafford ;)

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 29th July 2015 09:15

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This is not a fruitless pursuit. They spread their propaganda online and recruit members. These members then butcher Muslims by making takfir of them. See Saad Aziz's case in murder of Sabeen Mehmood.[/quote]
There are many agencies murdering Muslims.
You have chosen that agency to work against that ingratiates you to the west.
I have not seen you speaking against the atrocities against Muslims in the Central African Republic.

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This is not doing dirty job of west. This is to make sure these scum stay out of the minds of our youth. Tablighi Jamaat has its own purpose but it is not served here. Nor am I looking for any appreciation.[/quote]
The weak link in this argument is that you have gobbled up the western entrenched information hook line and sinker. You do have the choice to even join the boots on the ground so desperately needed by the west. Till we get the complete impartial information on the ground reality and till we have taken all the factors into account, till we have incorporated all the relevant aspects into account it is premature to assume that you are acting for the protection of Muslims.

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Theoretical work for regaining lost position of ummah is done and being acted upon as we speak. You may not agree with it or you may not know about it but it is true.[/quote]
Sad that you do not provide to substantiate any one of the numerous claims in this statement.
[quote]and btw I never perceived you as a liberal democrat, I simply chose to prefer the assessments of scholars over yours.

I am informed.
[quote]You had nothing to give to me from islamic fiqh, only a rationale which I have seen fail with my own eyes.

I am not a Faqih. That accusation I accept.
But the same is true about you.
You may reject my rationale for you are responsible for your actions.
By pitying Muslim youth against a brutal organization that has completely confounded the mighty west you are persuading them to take unacceptable risk.
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wasalam

Salam to you too.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 29th July 2015 10:09

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There are many agencies murdering Muslims.
You have chosen that agency to work against that ingratiates you to the west.
I have not seen you speaking against the atrocities against Muslims in the Central African Republic.
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I am not asking for any appreciation from west
Its too bad you dont follow me on facebook otherwise you would have seen my views on CAR

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The weak link in this argument is that you have gobbled up the western entrenched information hook line and sinker. You do have the choice to even join the boots on the ground so desperately needed by the west. Till we get the complete impartial information on the ground reality and till we have taken all the factors into account, till we have incorporated all the relevant aspects into account it is premature to assume that you are acting for the protection of Muslims. [/quote]

I am aware of ground reality. I cant share much details here. The ulema I follow are aware too
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Sad that you do not provide to substantiate any one of the numerous claims in this statement.

I can. but it will only get this thread locked/deleted/moved. I haven't forgotten SF. MS is better but I know what will happen
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I am not a Faqih. That accusation I accept.
But the same is true about you.
You may reject my rationale for you are responsible for your actions.
By pitying Muslim youth against a brutal organization that has completely confounded the mighty west you are persuading them to take unacceptable risk.

Reporting facebook accounts has zero risks. I am not asking them to go and fight ISIS on the ground.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 29th July 2015 10:11

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Thanks for the clarification. I shall leave the matters here for the time being.

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 29th July 2015 10:17

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I have not given that impression. I was merely stating that there are ISIS supporters in UK who need reporting. I did not say UK is a bastion of ISIS.

Though...Anjum Chaudhary and mizanur rahman do reside in UK and Mizanur rahman does active tabligh of ISIS. Many british men have gone to UK to fight for ISIS. So I'm not sure I would agree with br. muadh khan's statement. But then again, such an impression was not my intention.

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