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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 8th July 2015 15:30
This week on 11th July 2015 shall be the 20th anniversary of the worst genocide in European history in recent times in Srebrenica, Bosnia.

I dedicate this thread to all those who gave their lives for this sacred cause. If it was not for them giving their lives maybe not a single Muslim would be left in the Balkans today as what happened in other European countries after the fall of the Ottoman empire.

When we think of their sacrifice the following verse of surah baqarah verse 251 comes to mind

And if Allah had not repelled some men by others the earth would have been corrupted. But Allah is a Lord of Kindness to (His) creatures.

Also surah haj verse number 40 describes their situation;

Those who have been driven from their homes unjustly only because they said: Our Lord is Allah - For had it not been for Allah's repelling some men by means of others, cloisters and churches and oratories and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is oft mentioned, would assuredly have been pulled down. Verily Allah helpeth one who helpeth Him. Lo! Allah is Strong, Almighty -

I urge everybody to remember these great heroes of the Muslim nation and to pray 3 quls for their blessed souls. This thread shall be dedicated to them. Please feel free to share your input
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 8th July 2015 15:42
Following the death of Josip Broz Tito, the ethnic and religious tensions started to flare up in Yugoslavia.

Slovenia and Croatia were mainly Roman Catholic states. Serbia, Montenegro & Macedonia mainly Christian and Kosovo & Bosnia mainly Muslim.

The push for Greater Serbia,resulted in Serbia declaring the succesion of Croatia and Slovenia as illegal and resulted in wars

Albania was technically not part of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia but Kosovo, which is comprised of Albanians, was

Croatia and Slovenia, on the other side, wanted more control than what was currently given to them.

This eventually led Croatia and Slovenia to declare their independence from Yugoslavia and its control from Serbia.
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 8th July 2015 15:48
With the rise of nationalism amongst the ethnic groups, Serbia started its propaganda in order to get back its control.

The propaganda was slow and with a focus on the Muslims in Bosnia. A lot of what is now Islamophobia is what occured back then.

Spreading the propoganda that the Muslims (i.e the Bosnians) wanted to control the Serbs was fairly easy with the existing ethnic tensions.

For those who don't know, Islamophobia in Yugoslavia was a huge thing. Even during the begining.

At the time of Yugoslavia's formation, Bosnian Muslims were forbidden from wearing the niqab or the fez or any sign of Islam.

During the time of Yugoslavia, Muslim leaders who openly opposed the niqab ban and preached Islam were subject to imprisonment and torture.

Many Muslim women during this time were forced to unveil. Muslims were able to follow their religion, however, but very hidden and private.

In the early 80s, following Tito's death the situation for Muslims in Yugoslavia worsened. Many were brought to trial for "treason".
The myth of the "barbaric, savage, and radical Muslim" didn't begin here, however, it back in the early 1940s.

In 1941 general Draza Mhaijlovic, head of the Yugoslav Royal Armed Forces and Cetniks issued an order to 'cleanse' the "cancer of Islam".

This led to one of the earlier genocides against the Muslims of Yugo. Almost no village was spared. Men tortured and murdered. Women raped.

A lot of what happened in the early 40s to the Yugoslav Muslims we saw occur in Srebrenica, Zepa, Brcko...etc throughout Bosnia.
Which is why you'll run across Bosnian Muslims who lost half their family in the 40s and then the other half in the 90s. Genocide is slow.

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 8th July 2015 15:50
The Bosnian people defenceless like the Muslim ummah today not allowed to defend themselves

In September of 1991, prior to the start of the war in Bosnia, the European Community and the United States imposed an arms embargo.

The arms embargo would eventually be the cause of much of the strife in Bosnia, causing the Bosnian people to be defenseless.

The arms embargo forced upon Bosnia, was called by many as illegal due to the fact it left Bosnia without an ability to defend themselves.

Articles 2 and 51 of the U.N. Charter affirm that every state is entitled to use self-defense to protect its political independence.

In August of 1995, nearing the end of the war, the arms embargo was still in place and an attempt to lift the embargo was vetoed by Clinton.

To understand the arms embargo posed by the EU and the U.S., you have to understand that Bosnia did not have an army.

Those who would later join as "soldiers" in the war, were not soldiers but civilians. Bosnia had scarce weapons and no military training.
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 8th July 2015 15:52
Referendum/Independence

Serbia, during this time (the 90s), started to push towards a "Greater Serbia". An entity which would control the rest of the Yugo states.

Their push for Greater Serbia, resulted in Serbia declaring the succesion of Croatia and Slovenia as illegal and resulted in wars.

Following the succesion of Croatia and Slovenia, Bosnia passed a referendum calling for independence from Yugoslavia.

While 99% of the those who turned out voted for Independence, the political Serbian leaders in Bosnia were against it. And so it began.


In October of 1991 Bosnia and Herzegovina passed a Memorandum on the Sovereignty of Bosnia-Herzegovina which was contested by Serbs.

The Serb members of the Parliament, then formed the Assembly of the Serb people of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

In November of 1991, the Croatian leaders created the Croatian Community of Bosnia and Herzegovina to "strenght the Croatian impact in BIH"

In January of 1992, the Serbian Assembly created a plan for the SDS (serbian democratic party) to take over the municipalities in Bosnia.

On March 3, 1992 the referendum for Bosnian independence, despite Serb boycotts was passed.

Later that month, the 3 leaders of the Croats, Bosniaks, and Serbs signed the Lisbon agreement which would have ethnically divided Bosnia.

Izetbegovic, the leader of Bosniaks, withdrew his signature and stated his opposition to an ethnically divided Bosnia.
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 8th July 2015 15:54
Massaces and siege of Sarajevo

On April 1, 1992 a massacre of Bosniaks in Bijelija was perpetuated by Serbia forces, a local group called Mirko's Chetniks.

On April 5, 1992 the Siege of Sarajevo began. Sarajevo being surrounded by Serbian forces who blocked movement out of the city.

The Siege of Sarajevo lasted until the end of the war. During the Siege on a daily basis over 300 shell attacks occured.

Snipers were set up throughout the city, targeting civilians. Electricity was usually cut off, as well as water.

All of the buildings in Sarajevo suffered major damage but 35,000 building were completely destroyed.

Prior to the Siege the population in Sarajevo was around 400,000-500,000. After the war it was approx 300,000-320,000 people.

Of the 50,000-80,000 estimated children in Sarajevo, UNICEF reported that 40% were shot at by a sniper, 51% had seen somebody killed.

39% Sarajevan children had seen one or more family members killed; 19% had witnessed a massacre; 48% had their home occupied by someone else

Serb snipers would often play with their victims. They'd shoot, missing them and watching them run around and try to hide.

The Siege lasted 1,425 days. 1,425 days of constant shelling and snipers. Resulting in over 13,000 dead and 50,000 brutally wounded.

Despite knowing that any moment a shell could blast, a sniper could shoot them down, Sarajevans refused to succumb to the terrorists.

And while the world watched the shelling, the burning buildings and the dead on the streets....nobody did anything. Indifference kills.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 8th July 2015 16:00
As I am writing these tweets to get to the Srebrenica genocide, the vote on the Srebrenica resolution was delayed to avoid the Russian veto.

Right now the U.S is attempting to convince Russia not to veto the Srebrenica Genocide resolution.

Russia, along with Greece, of course was of much help to the Serbian side of the wars. So, this is to be expected after all.

So our enemies are united whilst the UAE government is signing military contracts and major investment in Serbia through the israeli spy Mohammed Dahlan. There was a campaign by UAE school children a year ago or so to expel Dahlan as he is an Israeli spy who has backstabbed the Palestinian cause.

www.thenational.ae/uae/government/uae-and-serbia-work-to-...
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 8th July 2015 16:03
Mass rapes and Rape used as a weapon of war

So...mass rapes during the war were extremely prevelant. In fact, Serb forces would often set up rape camps where they brought their victims

The term for the rapes that occured in Bosnia is genocidal rapes. A specific targeted rape campaign to further the genocide.

There were two main purposes of the rapes: 1. To "dirty" the Bosnian women 2. To spread the seed of Serbs

On one hand, they murdered the men: the husbands, fathers, and on the other they raped the women. It was very well thought out.

It's estimated that some 20,000-50,000 were victims of war rape in Bosnia. But if I had to be honest I'd say that number is much higher.

The Intl Criminal Tribunal declared that "systematic rape", and "sexual enslavement" in time of war was a crime against humanity.

What occured in Bosnia, the way the rapes were planned & how they were carried out and the reason for them mets the criteria of genocide.

The women who were raped and then became pregnant were forced to carry their child to term and give birth.

Mass rapes were very common. But what was even more common was rapes in front of villages, neighbors, friends and family.

The rapists did not care about sexual gratification as much as they did about the power, the control and the ruin of Bosnian Muslim women.

Bosnian Muslim women, being Muslim, had a reputation of being "good", "pure", due to their religion amongst many Balkan people.
These rapes were not just a way of traumatizing but were also a way of ruining the image of the Bosnian Muslim woman.


The ages of the women did not matter. Some would be young, children. Others middle aged. Even old grandmothers were not spared.

One thing to understand is the lack of persecution by the International community of the Serbs who comitted the rapes.

This indifference to the mass rapes of Bosnian Muslim women has allowed these same rapists to live and work next to those they raped.

In the towns of Foca, Prijedor, Visegrad and Srebrenica..etc it is a common occurance for the survivors to be forced to see their rapists.

In 1992 the West had already heard testimonials of rape camps, genocide, and war crimes but they let it go on for 3 more years.



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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 8th July 2015 17:23
A very important thread bro London, many of us have possibly forgotten the horrors of this war

I remember years back hearing the nasty atrocities carried out by the Serbs against the helpless muslims in this war, the mass murder, the nazi style torture and mass killings and graves,the ethnic cleansing, the pure hate they had for mulsims, the rape camps, the brutal techniques of torture and to be honest a lot of it would even make unislamic state of today look like kids.

The West watched for a long time and this conflict just got hotter and hotter, then came the mujahideen who started pouring into the Balkans from all over the globe and if it wasn't for these guys, Allah knows what would have happened, look at what already happened before they got there, so they gave the Serbs a nice beating on many fronts, then the West decided it was time to intervene as the battles were getting hot and muslims were fighting back now and in that Tony Blair played a big hand, no doubt he's a war criminal himself but this event made him famous and his famous line ' we either sit back and do something or we do nothing at all', so in went the NATO under the pretext of 'humanitarian intervention' and with the threat that the violence might spill over in to neighbouring nations. They acted no doubt but towards the end, really late. However he lead the rallying call to go in, so credit given where its due.

I second the suggestion of reciting Surah Ikhlas 3 times and sending it to the heroes of this war.

Bro London please carry on Insha'Ala
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 9th July 2015 10:10
I have been struggling with Kashmir matters and now this - phew!
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 9th July 2015 10:27
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Brother Maripat the issue is that such massive change can happen overnight or almost overnight. I was yesterday over iftaar talking to my family about such matters that do not ever be complacent in the UK. Do the effort of imaan, focus on your children, keep an eye on what the local population thinks of you and try to influence this in a positive manner. The problem is we live in an illusion. We think that in our little area we are ok. We live in a bubble. Like one big Indian buzrug said that before partition we faced the Brits and now we don’t care who we face we can take them on. This false sense of security or denial is very widespread. Most family members were not happy to hear such words from me and were saying why you are talking about such things. Hatred in the UK has become mainstream and we need to deal with it.
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 9th July 2015 11:30
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You are on the right track akhi. Have heart. Today we face the biggest challenges after Rasoolallah (SAW) but now onwards, Lord Most High willing, the show is ours.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 9th July 2015 12:08
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Inshallah I have hope.

O our Lord take the love of this world and fear of death out of our hearts.

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 11th July 2015 16:50
I'll carry on...

Continuing with the massacres that occured throughout Bosnia. Some gory details so once again trigger warning.
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 11th July 2015 16:59
Milan Lukic, of the White Eagles as mentioned in the story, also massacred my grandfather (may he rest in peace) and hid his body.

The stories of rape survivors in Bosnia are all very similar, despite being miles and cities and villages apart.

I am sorry. I know it's upsetting, guys. I'm crying while I type all of this. It hurts. It hurts. It hurts so much. But I have to speak.


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