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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 16:00

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Doesn't appear to have any Music so listening to this...

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 16:08

Unani, Chinese, Ayurvedia and many other systems use this technique; loads of videos and material on "Pulse Diagnosis"

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 16:09

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I was listening to a news channel(south indian) one anchor is discussing about "Naadi Jatakam" (telling everything about you by holding your pulse) so hindu's do it.. I am not sure if this hakeem is using either his hamzaad to talk with yours! or using a muwakkil kinda of stuff!..

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 16:11

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That's what I just watched, very interesting, its kind of the same as acupuncture theory. Shame about the silly music intro and faces, no need for them at all.

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 16:14

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There are training courses on Youtube on "Pulse Diagnosis" and pdf and other material. If the guy told me everything then yes it would be dodgy but apparetly it is possible to get Health updates...

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 16:41

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I agree with you on amils but I'm pretty sure hakeems and hikmat is a totally different science unrelated to jinns and magic.

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 16:43

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Colonel sahab is right here.. there is No involvement of any jinns..but an age old rare Hakeemi skill called "Nab-baazi".

The mastery of pulse is a vital element in Hakeemi system which at times reaches the unbelievable. ofcourse not connected anyway or anywhere to modern allopathic medicine.

Something i learnt about from two very reliable people.

1. Hazrat Dr Nadir Ali Khan sahab (db) of Markaz Nizamuddin

2. Hazrat Dr Ali Malpa sahab (db)- - A Homeopath & a shaikh ul mashaikh from my place.

1. Hazrat Dr Nadir Ali sahab (db) would tell me of great feats by Hakeems of his time. The one he was particularly fond of was a Hakeem who had this mastery of pulse, an expert "Nab-baaz" .

Seems he had visited him with a particular ailment as a 9 yr old, then after about ten yrs he visited him again.
He did not appear directly but put forward his hand through a curtain or a window just to check him.

To his astonishment the Hakeem sahab spoke " Uzair ko jo marz 9 saal pahle tha.." (Translation: " The ailment which Uzair had nine years back.." ) and he went on with the history & treatment..

(Uzair was Hazrat's household name as a child) .

I repeatedly asked Hazrat Dr Nadir Ali Khan sahab (db) if this was Kashf.. he said no it was a skill they possessed..

2. Hazrat Dr Ali Sahab (db) would also tell me many stories of these "Nab-Baaz" at times stressing that i should gain mastery over it by sitting with an accomplished Hakeem.

Sadly, i had no affinity with Hakeems.. still dont.. as most of them i found were cheats or fraudsters..

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 16:48

Here this is another story of an Alternative Medicine specialist who diagnoses systemic illnesses by examining the eye - www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?77681-A-trip-to-t...

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 16:58

Its also worth noting that the ulama of old were taught hikmat alongside their studies to help them as a source of income. What an amil does is something different and one must have nisbat to ilm and taqwa to do so. It is also an ijazat based science. Put simply teachers would recommend their students to do so when they felt that the student was ready. To ask for ijazat for any amal generally was looked down upon. Hikmat on the other hand is also done by non-muslims and muslims alike. Although the ulama hakeems were better equiped in this field due to their experiences of both sciences.

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 17:03

People (especially women) should be very wary nowadays of amils and hakeems due to the mass fraud and extortion going on. Sadly because people from the sub-Indian continent heavily rely on these sources as the last resort it has become prone to some very nasty people running it.

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 17:15

(Edited) So I ain't the only one who doesn't really like homeopathy.. I lose hope at times in allopathy too but that's a different story.
Hakeems.. I think they are better than homeopathic doctors and I also sort of believe in them but I think the treatment is slow and you need to do great parheez too.
One really good thing is hijama! It has so much barakah! And I have heard peoples stories that make me believe in it. Alhamdulillah.

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 17:24

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Just you just say "Homeos" [FacePalm]

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 17:25

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The thing is just as you have regulations for doctors to ensure that you don't get any wackos operating out there, these are ilms that should be used only by professionals. Unfortunately there is no regulation only trust and hearsay from those that you trust. There are people out there that use magic and jinnaat but this does not mean that the true ulama do so. On the contrary it is known that using a jinn you are most likely to ultimately get owned by them.

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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 17:26

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There are conflicting (Allowed or not allowed) reports on Homoeopathy so I kind of let go of it. I used it with my kids when they were very young and Alhumdulillah, by the will of Allah, it probably helped a lot, but since they have grown up, I don't use it and feel it won't work any more.

I think that their immune system was young and allowed for the required reaction to take place, otherwise I think it wouldn't help elders.

The first time I used it was on my son and Alhumdulillah he has not had such issues again, then the second time I used it was on my daughter at birth. She had very strong jaundice and it was getting bad, the doctors said that the machine she was placed under wasn't helping at all. We then got a few pills (powdery form) and placed that in her mouth. Alhumdulillah it seemed to have cured her only by the will of Allah. The doctors would not accept that she could recover so quickly from any form of medication and said that it was more a miracle than "homoeopath" (it was obvious they hate homoeopathy)

Good for us, we also believe in miracles :) all worked by the will of Allah.

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 11th May 2015 17:29

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Shafaqat Khan is very well known in UK for this:

www.shifaherbs.com/about.html

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