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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd April 2015 11:55
Yesterday evening in Roshnee most senior 'Ulema of South Africa gathered for a conference on ISIS and not only gave their opinions in a clear manner but also guidelines how to deal with this situation. The scholars include the following:

Mawlana Yunus Daya - Graduate of Darul Uloom Deoband. An expert on apostasy. Senior member of Muslim community in South Africa. Spiritually been connected to Mawlana As'ad Madani (rh) and now Mawlana Zulfiqar Naqshbandi (db).

Mawlana Muhammad Saloojee - Graduate of Darul Uloom Zakariyya and son of it's principal. Heavily engaged in Humanitarian activities and many times travelled Syria for that purpose. Gauteng Project Coordinator of the Al-Imdaad Foundation.

Mawlana Shabbir Ahmad Saloojee - Principal of Darul Uloom Zakariyya. Student of Mawlana Yusuf Binnori (rh). Scrupulous piety & deep concern for the Ummah are amongst Hazrat Mawlana's sailent features. Khalifah of Mufti Mahmudul Hassan Gangohi (rh), Hazrat Khawja Khan Muhammad (rh) & Hazrat Nafees Shah (rh).

Mawlana Ebrahim Bham - Graduate of Jamiatul 'Uloomul Islamiyyah, Allamah Binnori Town. General-secretary of Jamiatul Ulama Transvaal (the Council of Muslim Theologians in Johannesburg). A profound and well-known orator.

Mawlana Ridhwan Kajee - Young teacher at Darul Uloom Azaadville. Regularly gives talks for the sake of spiritual upliftement of especially the youth. Prior spiritually connected to Mawlana Hakeem Akhtar (rh). Khalifah of Mawlana Abdul Hameed Ishaq (db).

Mawlana Abdul Hameed Ishaq - Principal of Darul Uloom Azaadville. Graduate of Darul Uloom Deoband. Abundant love for Allah, His Rasul and Islam and his kind nature are amongst sailent features of Hazrat. Senior Khalifah of Mawlana Hakeem Akhtar (rh).

Mufti Radhaul Haq - Grand-Mufti of South Africa. Shaykhul Hadith at Darul Uloom Zakariyya. Senior student of Mawlana Yusuf Binnori (rh) and Mufti Wali Hassan (rh). A prolific research scholar and walking library. Prior spiritually connected to Mawlana Ghulam Habib (rh). Senior Khalifah of Mufti Mahmudul Hassan Gangohi (rh).

The conference was (mostly) free from any beating around the bush or superficial knowledge on the subject matter of current affairs, which our scholars get easily accused with nowadays. A must listen for scholarly guidance on the issue of ISIS.

Here is the over 2 and an half hour recording: www.mediafire.com/download/8xo464r55ft2n4d/Roshnee_anti-I...
Alternative download link added: drive.google.com/file/d/0Byu6Q1LlCVifcWw2QmwxNkZicWs/view...
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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd April 2015 12:27
link has been disabled because of too much traffic right now.

Some of Maulana Ridwan Kajee's talks are available here: annoor.co/audio-download/youth-program/
I can see why youth like his talks...
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd April 2015 12:29
On a lighter note: Mawlana Kajee (db) could easily be misunderstood as a conspiracy-theorist. *lol*
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd April 2015 13:43
Very short of time to listen to it....any conclusion please?
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd April 2015 14:23

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His "Short" Bayan which is 70 minutes long!

Halalified YT Audio

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd April 2015 16:55

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hehe. i was talking more about how Maulana Saheb likes to use graphic real-life comparisons when he speaks about ishq-e-ilahi and such...forget the teenage madrasa students loving off his talks, they even't started streaming it live for others...

Maulana's bayans on shaytan, dajjal, freemasons, etc. are a bit much for me tho...but I love his bayans, explains things in a great manner using ancedotes and examples.

One bayan, he talked about how everyone envisions a perfect salah with complete khuzu and khushu to be like that of some Sahabah (radh) and Awliya رحمة الله عليه_ wherein a person has no idea what's happening around him....but Nabi sallallahu alayhi wa salam would shorten his salah after hearing the crying of babies all the way from the back of the masjid and who had more khuzhu and khushu than him (sallallahu alayhi wa sallam)?...and the hadeeth shareef speaks about the wali from a past ummah who heard his mother knocking on the door but didn't answer...if he was a wali praying a noteworthy salah, then how did he hear knocking on the door?

One salah is mahmud, the other is matloob. Mahmud is to write the exam in neat and beautiful handwriting, but matloob is to write all the correct answers.

While a person is driving, he hears his wife speaking to him from the passenger seat, his kids talking in the back, he sees the billboards, pedestrians, traffic lights....yet he remains concentrated on the road.

Our mashayikh guarantee that even if a person remembers Allah for one only moment during the whole salah, he should make istighfar and consider his salah to be accepted by Allah the Most Merciful. Allah Ta'ala makes it easy by dividing our salah into intervals each one starting with takbeer or at least ism-e-ilahi in it, so we lose concentration in qiyam but "ALLAHU akbar" while going into ruku jolts us back, then same thing with ruku, sajdah, etc. Even then if we are absentminded during the entire salah, Allah Ta'ala made the very first word of salah be ALLAH (takbeer-e-oola) so at least we started it with concentration. And at the end, the very last word we say is ALLAH (tullah of salam) so at least our very last thought can be of Him.

Sorry for digressing, this just crossed my mind. that bayan was awesome.

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 24th April 2015 05:55
And can anyone give us the gist, summary, conclusions, highlights?
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 24th April 2015 09:39


Forward message from Maulana junaid.

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Highlights of Roshnee bayaan on ISIS

MUFTI RADHAA UL HAQ (db)

1. Obey the Ulama and rely on their guidance of the Ulama on these major matters (of ISIS), as this is the command of Allah in the Qur'an too (wa ulil amr).

2. In South Africa muslims have been practicing deen with freedom that even many Muslim countries dont even have.
Therefore we should avoid doing any such things that may cause harms to the Muslims and their progany here in this country. In view of that we should appreciate this freedom we have been given. Allah forbid if trouble come to us, no one will come to our rescue. Look at Central Africa, who came to their rescue of when many were killed and about 400 Masaajid were destroyed, likewise in burma too; who came to the rescue of those Muslims; Obviously no one! So similarly, if something goes wrong here in our country, then who will come to our rescue?... No one will come to our rescue, not even any Muslim Goverment.
Therefore be very careful in these matters. So utitilize the freedom of practicing your individual Islam of salaah, tilawat etc. to yr best capacity, and also continue practicing yr Islam on a community level too, in the form of masaajid and madaaris and tabligh... and usitilize its freedom to yr best, and without abusing it. So in conclusion, the way forward is to establish deen in yr individual lives, and propogate the deen to the local inhabitants and the land by giving them the message of Islam....

May Allah Guide us. Ameen
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 24th April 2015 10:38
I'll insha'Allah try to post a - although very brief - summary to what each speaker said later on.
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 24th April 2015 18:24
Message from Maulana junaid

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THE REALITY OF ISIS

What is the right path?

Love for Allah in our hearts

To abstain from all types of bid’ah

Love for Rasulullah saw above everyone

Follow Rasulullah saw in every facet of our lives

Spending our lives in learning, teaching and spreading deen

The matter of khilaafah.

 

There are two ways that a khalifah can be appointed.

1. The ulema of that particular era unanimously appoint someone. In the case of Mullah Umar of Afghanistan 1500 ulema took bay’ah on his khilaafah and at the appointment he initially did not accept that responsibility.

2. The previous khalifah appoint someone to succeed him.

 

Regarding Isis and Baghdadi, most ulema of Syria, Iraq, Arabia and all around the world appose his nomination and the modus operandi of this so called Islamic state.

Mullah Umar while being the leader never did pass any fatwa of kufr on those that did not take bay’ah

The difference

Rasulullah (saw) came as رحمة للعالمين

A mercy to mankind. He spread Islam by good akhlaaq and exemplary character. This groups actions are directly opposite of what nabi saw preached. They slaughter the kuffaar in barbaric ways and publicise and boast about it threatening the kuffaar. What kind of negative impression it creates about our beautiful and most just and peaceful religion of Islam.

This group has been fighting against the Sunnis in Fallujah and have killed hundreds of ulema

What is surprising regarding the military action from the USA is that in the war against Afghanistan any movement detected in the troubled areas was immediately bombed and in this action against this group this type of action is absent. All their movements and advances would be detected but no action is taken. It is just a show from the USA. It is apparent that they have an alliance with this group.

The actions which classify them as a deviant sect.

1.            Their wholesale announcements of kufr on those that do not agree with them. Unnecessary killing, killing of journalists, Christians and Muslims. Allah says ومن قتل نفسا بغير نفس او فساد في الارض فكانما قتل النا س جميعا

2.            They propagate to take the wealth of other people.

3.            They disobey their parents. To them hurting anybody in the process of joining them is no sin. How can this jihaad be accepted when at the time of joining them they disobey Allah by disobeying their parents whom Allah says about    ولا تقل لهما اف ولا تنهرهما و قل لهما قولا كريم Nabi (saw) says            الجنة تحت اقدام الامهات

4.            They propagate lying so that they can join the Isis. All those who leave to join them lie about their intentions. This action of theirs is one of the beliefs of the Shia

5.            They brand the tabligh jamaat as the army of dajjaal. There are hundreds of stories regarding the acceptance of this effort.

The lies and deception

Jihaad will remain till qiyaamah. Jihaad has certain conditions and limitations

The teacher of Abubakr Baghdadi a very senior aalim of Iraq has published a book

الدولة الاسلامبة بين الحقيقة والحق

In it he mentions that this group (Isis) is a deviation and has nothing to do with deen. They are the khawarij of our time. Rasulullah (saw) says their salaah will be the same as yours and their fasting will be the same as yours but they will have nothing to do with deen.

The enthusiasm of our youth is commendable. The problem is that the connection between them and the elders is not present and almost lost altogether. With the result they have now channeled that enthusiasm in the wrong direction. Remember show respect towards your elders and compassion to the young. The backbone of every community is the connection between the masses and the learned. Allah says

فسئلوا اهل الذكر ان كنتم لا تعلمون

When you are not sure and do not know then ask the people of knowledge.

In every facet of life the golden rule is the correct and pure intention and following the way of our beloved prophet (saw).

The ulema who oppose this deviant group cannot be accused of standing down while the Muslims are been oppressed but rather as in the case of the battle of Ahzaab when the Muslims were attacked and took a defensive stance by digging trenches. There are different methodologies that deal with oppression and the method used by the ulema does not diminish the courage and enthusiasm of their desire to protect the Muslims.

The world media and governments focus of attention a year ago was of the brutal invasion of Gaza and since this group came into the spotlight all the attention is on them and everyone has forgotten about Gaza. We can see the negative effects of their actions. All indications point towards a ploy by the foreign forces and agencies to divert the attention away from Palestine.

This recruitment ploy of theirs only damages the Muslims reputation in the respective countries and the freedom they enjoyed will soon be curbed as they will be seen as a third force.

We should make shukr of the countless bounties Allah has bestowed upon us. Having the freedom of religion is one of the greatest bounties which we enjoy. So let us make shukr for that bounty . There are those who have joined this deviant group and in the process of joining them and made hijrah have committed grievious sins. They have disobeyed their parents, lied and have been ungrateful to the bounty of Allah. They have discarded the bounty of freedom of religion and went in search for something better. They have discarded the responsibility of spreading Islam and went in search of killing people who hold the kalimah in their hearts.

We cannot fall for every slogan on the basis of emotion. The Islamic state of Syria and Iraq is a catchy and emotional slogan that every Muslim aspires for. To live in an Islamic state. Upon careful inspection and after seeing the modus operandi of this group they are nothing but a deviant group who seek power.

A peaceful and harmonious society is an objective of Islam. Not a society that rejoices upon the killing of humans as is evident from the people who live in this false Islamic state. All their news is about how many they have killed. What kind of men will emerge from this kind of society in the future? The slogan may seem rosy but the long term effects on your children will be damaging and un repairable.

Nabi (saw) during the treaty of Hudaibiyyah made so much effort on peace even though apparently the treaty was in favour of the kuffaar.

When there is hostility and hatred people will never see the beauty of your religion then your nobility and contribution to the country will hold no weight. The moment hostility and hatred is put aside then people see the beauty of Islam. This was the case in the treaty of Hudaibiyyah that Nabi (saw) orchestrated so that peace would reign.

The purpose of jihaad is peace.  The sword that is used in jihaad is like the scalpel of the surgeon that he uses to remove things that are harmfull to the body and not the sword of an executioner in which he takes delight in taking peoples lives.

Don’t be used and abused by deviant sects

There are more negatives than positives regarding Isis so let put the emotions aside and use our intellect to decide by the discussions above if that is what we really aspire for. Joining and supporting such a group that puts your aakhirah in danger should be avoided and strive for your Jannah by being an example of the excellent character of our beloved master Nabi Muhammed (saw).

 

This article was composed by the lectures of our senior ulema who spoke regarding this deviant sect in Roshnee on the 22 April 2015.

Ml Shabeer Saloojee

Ml Abdul Hameed Ishaq

Ml Ebrahim Bham

Mft Radaa ul Haq
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 25th April 2015 08:38
Jazakallah Maulana Junaid and brother Jinn. It was so difficult to make an opinion about the Islamic State without help from Ulama.
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 25th April 2015 09:35

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are you being sarcastic? lol.

i think the program was aimed at the youth who think ISIS is engaged in true qital-fee-sabilillah.

One other respected brother was unhappy that Sisi wasn't mentioned. But the point of the program wasn't just to bash any tyrannical leader or group, but specifically, to relate how ISIS doesn't operate according to the shariah. No youngster is running away from home to join Sisi's army.

One advantage that the South African Ulama have is that they are in direct contact with the senior Sunni Ulama of Syria and Iraq and so their opinion of ISIS isn't based on the media. Also, these Ulama don't mince words when it comes to qital and are open supporters of Mullah Umar, so their words hold weight.

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 25th April 2015 15:17
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 25th April 2015 18:29
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Masha'Allah, this is good. Just a couple of minor mistakes:

1. Mawlana Ridhwan and Mawlana Abdul Hameed are connected to DU Azaadville, not Zakariyya. (might be to any non-SA a minor difference, but to the small Ummah there it's huge *lool*)

2. New Town (aka Binnori Town) Madrassa website is: banuri.edu.pk (you linked to Jamia Binoria at S.I.T.E.)

May Allah ta'ala reward Mawlana Junaid (db) abundantly for the notes... Yet I would still encourage everyone to listen to the conference themselves, even if in parts over a few days...
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 26th April 2015 03:19
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