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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 25th March 2014 13:10

why most probably must these guest have 3-4 accounts?? why don't you people try think good of your fellow muslims
i didn't claim im lazy above, someone probably trying to get there point across although in a childish, deceitful and slanderish way

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 25th March 2014 14:08

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This should be sufficient. Guest posting is enabled for quick replies and sharing information. If they debate or cause issues please use the report feature and the post will be removed if needed. All the options are there. Why take down a building if just one window is faulty.

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 25th March 2014 14:30

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Wrong quote.
Sometimes one faulty brick can bring down the whole building. ;)

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 25th March 2014 16:35

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No, a brick or faulty brick in this case is part of the structure. So bad coding would be a faulty brick and we currently do have many faulty bricks. Guests are not part of the structure of the site. They're an asset just like a window would be to a building so I stand by my analogy in this case :)

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 25th March 2014 16:42

The guests are our visitors, visitors are guests of Allah :)

We take care of them as much as we can, we give them a platform to say what they feel is needed.

Some are excellent, MashaAllah, some not so excellent.

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 25th March 2014 17:15

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So true......جزاك الله خيرا

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 25th March 2014 17:32

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Ok my last input in this matter. Please go through the last 50 posts by a guest in this forum, how many of them were exactly 'excellent' ?

Plus you do not understand how the guest function will aid fitnamongers. Eg: There is mild 'exchange' between streetfighter and blackturban in the other thread. Anyone, mind you, Anyone can post as streetfighter and create more fitnah and fighting between the two. I think its kinda obvious that different people are using the same guest name because in the same page you ll find that only some of the posts of the same guest is shown 'online'. My guess is the online function for the guest is active when a specific ip is browsing the forum. Only argument against would be that particular guest has an ISP which assigns dynamic ips. Plus its easy for an existing member to be more 'harsh' by posting as guest.

Anyways its really evident that the guest function is being misused. Only question is which is more, pros or cons.

If the admins/mods are still not convinced, atleast do not allow guests to post with specific user names. Just give them the option to post with the title 'guest'.

Already we are behind many layers of anonymity in the internet. This function gives more unnecessary anonymity and makes it easier for someone to do something without making multiple accounts.

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 25th March 2014 17:45

Going back to the last 50 posts doesn't give justice to the topic. Looking at some the posts over the "Years" have been very beneficial. In fact, it was a guest who then signed up to make a beautiful point about debating and because of that, we have a debate section.

Much is owed to the guest posts too, they give valid opinions. But coming to a decision based on the last 50-100 posts isn't fair.

Fitnah creators should fear Allah!

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 25th March 2014 18:06

shouldn't it be more about being beneficial rather than excellent, what would excellent actually mean in this context aswell?? maybe if some havn't found a post beneficial others have and we may never know. and then again not all users posts are of benefit and actually some are just ridiculous, i advise all to post with caution as it will be accessable worldwide

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 25th March 2014 18:14

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Think about the current situation and do accordingly. Just because apple fell on newton's head, doesn't mean all aspiring physicists should go and sit under the apple tree. Do what you gotta do.

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 25th March 2014 18:42

Just because a handful of guests are spoiling the forums, surely we shouldn't take the privilege away from the genuine ones. I guess we will have to live with them.

We discussed this many times between the authorizers and admins, and admins justified their use. We were against it at times, but overall I think they are beneficial one way or the other.

Anyways, it's not our decision, we are just laying out the advantages (partially) the final call is down to Maulana, who I can assure will not stop guest posts just yet!

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 25th March 2014 19:01

but if someone is posting something wrong/bad etc surely the admin people would be able to stop this right??
and then it doesn't really matter if someone is a member or not, either one can post good or bad. i'm sure you guys have seen good and bad from both sides so then if you want to ban the non members wouldn't you also ban the members?? the cause is the same right??

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 25th March 2014 20:13

I really don't see the difference. Members have also caused problems in the past. An entire section was made after just for that "Debates & Refutations" - does that mean we should have disabled members too?

At that time, if we checked the last 50 posts of members we'd have the same problem. They came flooding in at the time firing away.

Guests miss out on a lot of site features but why should we miss out on good stuff from guests?

Member causes issues, we have cautions. Guests cause issues, we have the same cautions. ID is not really an issue if all they want to do is make a point. Most posts are guest/anonymous.. using the same username as a guest only means that this guest wants everyone to know it's the same person but it's common sense not to take guest usernames seriously because anyone can post with any username. Obviously they can't post with a username that's actually registered.

It really isn't that much of an issue. Report the post if anything just like you would with a registered member's post, it's never ignored.

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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 26th March 2014 12:18

I'm a just casual passer-by and I don't think I would ever intend to register - and I'm sure there will be many others like me.

When I see my website getting hits from this site, curiosity brings me here, and sometimes, against my best judgement, I can't resist a quick post.

Regarding bickering and debates, I've noticed a few started or instigated by registered members, so I'm not sure how accurate the view is that it is mainly done by guests - Mufti Yasin is the best judge of that.

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd April 2014 15:58

The problem is that many of Sunniforum Users are coming here and it is a good thing and a bad thing.

The good thing is Masha'Allah it is a public forum and all opinions and views and welcome and there are many good (sincere) knowledgeable Brothers and Sisters, Masha'Allah.

The bad thing is that many are bringing their "cultish" mentality with them clearly evident by abuse because many don't have anything but abuse to add to the subject and being a "Guest" is the perfect opportunity to exploit. You will abject abuse, mocking of User names etc and not much Academic stuff to refute or respond to.

A person within the confines of Shariah is free to disagree and a person can also make errors but you can clearly see that the "Guest" feature is being exploited for abuse due to anonymity at offer.

Therefore some critical thinking (due to flow of SF Users) on this forum is required.

Many Deobandees genuinely believe that the minute you say something “not positive” about their Shaykh or Tassawuff or Tableegh your blood becomes HALAL and it is their DUTY to abuse, slander, accuse, backbite, damage, defame in anyway whatsoever and this is not only permissible but praiseworthy.

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