Establishment of Khilafah ?

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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 4th March 2015 00:33

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Is the establishment of a Caliphate fardh ?

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 4th March 2015 11:04

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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 4th March 2015 11:13

I heard in a lecture that this is not the case.The Faraidh are other things and we have a much larger goal. ~~The Khilafat will not take us to Jannah~~, its our Fard deeds that will.

That was the gist of the lecture. But then again, there is this ajhiza.wordpress.com/2010/03/18/clear-evidences-for-the-o...

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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 4th March 2015 11:20

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Ive actually heard the same and in the process I got called a modernist deviant,apparently all 4 schools agree on it.

To be honest the arguments brothers use are usually pro hizb tahrir,then they use isolated verses such as ,establish the shariah'and that you cant do it without an caliphate.

However I did find some material last night, will paste it in the next post.

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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 4th March 2015 11:22

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Yes establishing a Khalifa is an communal obligation (fardh kaffayah)

Imam Qurtubi (Rahimullah) states in his Tafsir of the ayah;“Indeed, man is made upon this earth a Khaleefah” (2:30): This Ayah is a source in the selection of an Imaam, and a Khaleefah, he is listened to and he is obeyed, for the word is united through him, and the Ahkam (laws) of the Khaleefah are implemented through him, and there is no difference regarding the obligation of that between the Ummah, nor between the Imams except what is narrated about al-Asam, the Mu’tazi.”

Abu Hazim (radhi allahu) narrated “I was with Abu Hurairah for five years and I heard him narrate from the Prophet (SAW) that he said: “The Prophets used to rule Bani Israel. Whenever a prophet died another prophet succeeded him, but there will be no prophets after me; instead there will be Khulafaa’ (Khalifahs) and they will number many”. They asked: what then do you order us? He said: “fulfil allegiance to them one after the other. Give them their dues. Verily Allah will ask them about what he entrusted them with”. (Sahih Muslim) This hadeeth illustrates that not only will a Khalifate exist after the death of the Prophet (sallahu alayhi wa sallam), but he commanded the Muslims to obey them, making it obligatory upon the believers to do so.

Furthermore Imam Ibn Juzayy lists it as a matter of Ijma in his book of Ijma.

Imam Ahmad (Rahimullah) held that the establishment of the Khalifah is fardh and stated “The Fitnah occurs when there is no Imam established over the affairs of the people”.

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 4th March 2015 11:40

Fard kifaayah is not the same as Fard al Ain, Wallahu Alum

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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 4th March 2015 11:49

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This is an interesting topic..however I can't find much on it by the Deobandi ulema

Im sure its out there somewhere but I cant just find it, searched Islamqa as well but nothing.

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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 4th March 2015 16:09

السلام عليكم

Establishing Khilafath is Fardh kifayah.

If a Fardh kifayah is not fulfilled the whole Muslim community is responsible for it.

Its mentioned clearly in Shafii fiqh book Umdat as salik.

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Statements like 'The Khilafat will not take us to Jannah' is very dangerous. Establishing the Khilafat is the Command of Allah Taala. You just cannot say that fulfilling Allah Taala's command will not take us to Jannah.

It is fardh kifaya because only one person needs to become the Khalifah to fulfill it, just like janazah prayer, only one person has to perform it, but if not done by anyone, whole community is sinful.

If you want to know the importance of Khilafath, remember how fast the Sahabah established Khilafath after the passing away of Rasoolullah (saw)

. The Sahabah gathered, discussed and elected Abu Bakr As Sideeq رضي الله عنه as the khalifa even before the burial of Rasoolullah (saw)

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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 4th March 2015 16:33

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Jazakallah, post slightly edited but not deleted, as I said, "I heard in a lecture" The lecture was aimed at HizbutTahrir fans. I guess wording it in an appropriate way would have kept the meaning clearer. Khair, Jazakallah :)

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 4th March 2015 16:55

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Oh Ok... you were quoting that statement..

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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 4th March 2015 17:37

Assalam o Alaikum

Few points related with the topic.

1-Can complete islam be implemented without any islamic khilafah(or whatever name we may give ), what will happen to hudood and taazeer etc.

2-It is a death for boundries define a nation theory as against religion defines a nation(re ummat wahida)

Sorry for being short and my post may not be clear enough for some. i have a very limited knowldge of deen and the purpose is to seek knowledgeable people opinion on what i think.

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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 5th March 2015 11:28

Just a quick thought: Youngsters who become so obsessed of the establishment of a Khilafah and at the same time partially oblivious of other important commandments (like Hizbul Tahrir for example) not only regard it's establishment as an obligation but also as the ultimate solution to our entire problems. This second, utopian motive is very naive, historically wrong, dangerous and lacks evidence. Wallahu 'Alam...

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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 5th March 2015 11:30

Can we even establish Khilafah in UK or France or Germany? Isn't the discussion out of scope (of reality)?

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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 5th March 2015 12:46

The discussion is of utmost importance in terms of clearing up confusion. We can argue that us living in the west where there are many other problems it might not be the most important thing in terms of priority and in terms of our safety where the media takes theological discussions out of context. At the same time the whole generalization that those who advocate khilafat are third rate muslims hardly goes down well with me. Political power is of utmost importance to the Muslim ummah. Without this power our enemies will eat us alive and history has shown that they have little tolerence for our way of life. I don't claim that khilafat is the solution to all our problems but I do see it as a great way of safeguarding our deen and way of life. Also many commands of shariah cannot be fulfilled without the explicit permission of the khalifah. The level of the imaan and religious practices of a people has always been linked to the policies of the governments of their day. If we overlook it's importance like certain segments and feel like our grassroots work is sufficent then sorry this is a wrong stance. We will only realize at a later stage. The problem is we have heard talks. We know khilafat needs to be revived. We need islamic governance etc. What action can we do to make this happen. This seems to be the stumbling block. The theory is all well and good but how do we unite 60 nations and look at our enemies in the eye without being humiliated? This is the question that I cannot answer. I myself have resigned myself to prayer and dua as I know no other way. However those who have other capabilities should use them for the service of our religion. The example of Erdogen in Turkey seems to be a viable solution. Get good muslims into politics who take mashwara from the ulema. But will the taughutt and their allies allow such a plan to succeed? Regardless it is an important topic but sadly most of our ulema are hardly versed in these matters. In these matters the likes of shaykh abdul karim zaydan, imam hasan al banna rh devoted some important writings.

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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 5th March 2015 14:15

^^ Agree with above. Imagine the sick disease of pornography; Ummah can solve the problem in 2 ways:

Tazkiyah: Tableeghi Jamaat, Sufees and Darul-uloom giving Bayans and asking for the matter to be solved for 100+ years
BAN: ISPs force to BAN porngraphy and then Prison sentences for those caught!

Same for drugs, prostitution etc.

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