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#106 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 10:31
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OK Moulana I give a situation here; Kindly suggest.


You are in a tableeghi jamaath for 40 days, you have been asked stay in a masjid for 10 days. The condition of the locals is worst. When you visit the masjid you find bid'ah you have never seen in your life. Also you get the news that earlier jamaath were thrown of the town for not participating in the bidah.

Option 1: Stay in the masjid and give dawah to locals who have never visited the masjid, who have never recited the kalimah, they don't even know the faraidh of ghusl.

Option 2: Pack your baggage, leave the town, you are not responsible for giving dawah to the locals, you shall never be questioned, but if you get involvled in the bidah, you shall be questioned, don't spoil your amaal. Hidayath of others is in the hands of Allah SWT. Eh naheen suddhrenge. Recite surah kaafiroon and leave.
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#107 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 10:35

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thats understandable, but then that post has no worth to this discussion.

btw i am gujrati and i have absolutely no idea who you are talking about lol.

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#108 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 10:43
You give dawah....you don't partake in bidah, if they accept and take guidance it's fine, if not they throw you out. No big deal. You carry on.

Did the sahabahs give up hope, did they give up trying...the prophet (saw) was abused, physically hurt until he bled, did he give up? No. He carried on patiently and made dua for the ummah.

This situation has always existed you try, sometimes you succeed sometimes you don't, but you just carry on and not lose hope and never underestimate the power of duas.

We try, but hidayah is in the hands of Allah.
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#109 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 10:45

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You know ABSOLUTELY nothing about Tableeghi Jamaat and YET continue to act like George Bush!

This is standard scenario in many parts of the world so the Jamaat makes dua, meets people (informally), stays at some other location etc.

  1. Brothers (and Sisters) in Jamaat are not ARROGANT to think that they bring Hidayah rather they believe that Mercy of Allah (SWT) brings Hidayah. Mercy of Allah (SWT) is called upon by acting upon the Sunnah and making dua
  2. Staying in the Masjid is NOT a condition of guidance there is no such principle at all

Only a person ARROGANT enough such as yourself will think that I AM NEEDED for guidance so I will DESTROY Sunnah and ADOPT Bid'ah as long as I (ME, MYSELF) gets to be the center of attention!
 

Even Nabi (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) was told:

[28:56] You cannot give guidance to whomsoever you wish, but Allah gives guidance to whomsoever He wills, and He best knows the ones who are on the right path.

For 1400+ years Muslims have been united that Hidayah comes from obeying Allah (SWT) and following the Sunnah and here we have a dynamic Mujtahid claiming that Hidayah can come from adopting Bid'ah!

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#110 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 10:46
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No big deal. You carry on.


If that was followed some 60 years back, then I don't know what would have been situation in Indian subcontinent, UK, South Africa, Canada and other countries.
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#111 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 10:48
And You speak of duas, there were many mustajab dua at that time. But as means... Allah SWT used brothers who willfully sacrificed their wishes.
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#112 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 10:49

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Willfully sacrificing their wishes and ADOPTING Bid'ah are TWO separate matters!
 

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#113 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 10:50
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Then why this discussion is running into pages; Make dua for me.
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#114 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 10:52
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Willfully sacrificing their wish not to particpate in bida'a. If they would have been at home with the luxuries of praying behind a renowned mufti in a beautiful deobandi masjid, there would have been no situation.

I waiting for reply from Moulana Yasin.
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#115 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 10:52
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Yet there is not a single example from the life of Nabi (alayh al-salam) or Sahabah where they participated in Shirki activities rather they were zealots and got thrown out like in Taif!
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#116 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 10:53
sorry! spelling issues here.

* I am waiting.
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#117 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 11:10
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YET continue to act like George Bush!


Spot on Gov.

Bush says, "You are either with us or with them" lol
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#118 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 11:13
lol "Dynamic Ijtihad" is the buzz word of the week.
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#119 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 11:15
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Dua can be made, but you dont want to listen, instead, you are defending your action.

Like saying make Dua for me coz I have have a peanut allergy but you eat peanuts all day long. Fact is, you dont want to get better. Can this be classified as being delusional?
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#120 [Permalink] Posted on 12th September 2014 11:18
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Authorizer edit: image removed, Jzk for reporting the post. abu mohammed.
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