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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 12:39

JazakAllah khayran.

Alhamdulillah, a while back, I I wrote to the editor of a site - no response nor any action. I don't know who to write to for a fatwa on this and Insha'Allah I don't wish to name a particular site (there are others) but perhaps simply seek a ruling on how best to deal with sites that make anything from HY available to the public and/or sell his books.

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 12:50

@Sister acacia. No i wont read from that website.. until the fatwa comes..
My knowledge ia just too less. Why take such a big risk?

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 12:50

Ask from '' askmufti.co.za''

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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 12:52

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Well one site is here Some of his works have been reproduced here. And that's not all, there is plenty more of that on the same site, but all of which is Sahih and accepted as well as questionable stuff for a reason. Just like we have Dr Naik, Martin Lings, Imran Hossein and so on.

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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 12:52

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This guy is Amir Liaquat Hussain of Turkey! No Fatwa needed to avoid his nonsense...

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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 12:55

www.muftisays.com/qa/question/167/harun-yahya.html

Assalamu alaiykum,
This is a question regarding a concept portrayed by the author in question, Harun Yahya, in many of his works, that nothing in reality is real except the being of Allah سبحانه وتعالى and that everthing else apart from the "Real" (Allah), is just an illusion created in our heads.
Please shed some light.

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Bismihi Ta'ala

This concept portrayed by Harun Yahya and held by others belong to a philosophical group known as Sofastaa'iyyah. They believe that nothing is real other than Allah. One must ask them that if you were hit by a rock on your head, do you really feel the pain, or was the pain just an illusion in your head? If everything created is an illusion, what would be the purpose behind creating such a complex universe?

Whatever the case, discussions such as these have no bearing on our deen. Whether we believe life is an illusion or that it is real, we will have to face Allah and give an account for all our actions.

And Allah knows best.

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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 12:57

Assalamualaikum Dear Brother There is a person named Harun Yahya and in his website, it is given that Quran is a mathematical miracle also as well as a Scientific miracle. We believe that if it is not there then also we believe it as word of Allah and web don't need this type of proof, but if any person who has logical brain , can not deny that the matter / claim is amazing and it is impossible for any human to write a book which has these mathematical miracle. Dear brother, I think that if this matter is right then we don't have any right to hide it from the world.I want to convert the whole matter in hindi and want to make a website . I want to know that I should do it or not. Please keep in your mind that we don't have any right to hide it from the world and similarly we don't have any right to claim something on behalf of Quran, which is actually wrong. Wassalam

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(Fatwa: 218/89=D)

According the website, the Quran is a mathematical and scientific miracle. And as far as your belief is concerned (that if it is not there then also we believe the Quran as word of Allah and we do not need this type of proof) it is right, every Muslim must keep such belief about the Quran. It is dangerous for a Muslim to basically believe in scientific theories and observations instead of the Quran; since the theories keep on changing while the circle of observation is limited and it is due to widen.

As far as the matter of translating these matters to Hindi for a website is concerned, it is not so clear. You are advised to directly meet and consult any reliable aalim.

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 13:11

And how does that (having given HY such exposure) make you feel in your heart? It is beyond my comprehension how such a group (i.e. HY - Adnan Oktar doesn't act alone) - that is so obviously sick - get such recognition.

Nothing justifies promoting the HY group. Nothing.

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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 13:32

Request to MS admin and authorizers: inshaAllah, please remove all articles and links connected to Harun Yahya and/or Adnan Oktar that were posted by you personally.

JazakAllah khayran.

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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 13:38

Oh dear I just remembered that vid of him doing gangam style, some hillarious stuff.

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 13:57

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Only older.

Shifting gears slightly: I'm sorry but what is it with this 'lets debate everything and gather refutations to fill volumes!' culture? I don't get it. Are we so eager to convince and 'convert' the atheist that we are ready to sacrifice our own? Or... are we so worried about losing our own that we want to do such things and further confuse them with nonsensical stuff at the same time. Is it worth it?

My question is: am I - username Acacia - worth losing as a reader and contributor over somebody who likely doesn't even read and rarely ever contributes and even more rarely ever sticks around after a beating? What about Aisha, Ahmad, Zaynab, John, Jane, etc. who are believers and are vulnerable because we lack knowledge?

Is it worth it?

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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 13:57

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I fully understand you feelings (Once upon a time, I had no idea about his silly stuff)

As far as I recall, the thread link I provided contains a mixture of work, so I wouldn't know which is his and which is not. :(

Also, I (personally) don't think its necessary to remove ALL his stuff, just that which is dodgy. But that's just my lowly opinion.

There is a name that escapes me, but there was a great scholar, I think he was a Mu'tazalite, and he produced one of the best tafseers of the Quran. Although deviated, the ulama still use his work because of the depth and understanding he had given.

Allahu Alum

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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 13:59

Yusuf Ali?

I'd avoid it too!

[oh sorry.... that's a translation, not a tafseer (as far as I know). But still, alhamdulillah I have come to know to avoid Yusuf Ali translations.]

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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 14:02

See, the lines are so blurred now... it is so sad.

Can there really be any good in the dodgy? How can we tell and where do we draw the line? It isn't as easy to navigate the terrain as one would hope... especially for someone who is only just learning.

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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 14:04

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Worth the effort to undo insha'Allah.

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