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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 02:25
Bismillahirrahmanirrahim

Assalaamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

What would you do if you came to realize that a source you have accepted as reliable actually has articles and books from sources you'd rather steer clear from?

What if you informed the source & they neither replied nor removed the itms.

Would you, could you, should you ignore it all and carry on using the source?

As someone lacking proper knowledge, should you get involved or should you then bring it to someone else's attention? If so, who?

These and related questions play on my mind and I don't think I am alone. Input and guidance wpuld be appreciated.

Wa'assalaam

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 06:24
Sister, if you see somethng strange. Ask from another very reliable source. Show them what you read overthere. ( ask from a mufti from whom u generally ask your questions)
then see what they replied. If they say that the source answer is wrong. Then mail source with proof ( not the mufti fatwa u asked.. ) then if they give proof then mail the mufti that. look what he says. Do that.

Il post something about ''AskAmufti ''
Insha Allah
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 06:36
JazakAllah khayran sister, I appreciate your reply. In the meantime (while waiting for a fatwa), would you continue utilizing the site or would you stay away?

BTW I don't have a regular mufti and, apart from SF, I don't think I ever asked a mufti for fatawa... I would be reluctant to unless I absolutely need to.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 09:58
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The Prophet (saw) said: If one of you sees something evil, he should change it with his hand. If he cannot, he should speak out against it, and if he cannot do even that he should at least detest it in his heart, this being the weakest form of faith
(Sahih Muslim).


There is plenty of non sense out there, so its not possible to tell everyone and anyone. But if it is a source widely used and accepted, it would be beter to firstly clarify the authenticity (as there is so little that we know and it just might be Sahih) with the learned and once you have confirmation, it would be advisable to make contact with the clarification.

Similar things happen on the blogs, people make comments and ask for daleel etc, I respond where I can and if there is a doubt of dodgyness, the least I can do is add a disclaimer. In other words, people do take action and will react InshaAllah.

However, if the person is deluded, then at least you tried and you will rewarded for your intention.
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 10:19

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W-Salam,

What is dodgy and according to whom and on what grounds?

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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 10:37
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assalamu alaykum,

One example for me would be Martin Lings. His seerah book is very famous and commended by almost everyone. But he himself is a "dodgy" person being a disciple of Frithjof Schuon.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 10:49
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W-Salam,

And there are some factual errors in his book regarding Seerah but I agree that the style is lucid and appealing.
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 12:08
JazakAllah khayran. An example of dodgy for me (and I'm afraid I can't accept something so explicitly foul as being good) is anything and everything by Adnan Oktar (aka Harun Yahya).
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 12:14

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O-I-see and not OIC

No Arguments from me on this one...He is seriously dodgy!

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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 12:16
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I know what you mean. But he has done some great works too. Sad. Many have even made takfeer on him.
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 12:19
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Have you seen the dude in action?
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 12:22
I don't wish to discuss the dude and his equally dodgy "good works". I'd rather avoid everything related.

The question remains: would you continue to link to other (good) articles located on the same site? I don't like the idea of exposing anyone to his stuff.
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 12:27
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No because you will be directing traffic to that site and many may not be able to discern the good from the bad.
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 12:28
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I have unfortunately

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He has some excellent works on the Sciences and miracles of the Quran which I have used. I don't think I would be taking them away. It is superb work.

Obviously we don't promote the funny stuff, just like we have many other famous people (of Islam), we take what's good and leave what's not.

Plenty of examples can be given, but the list would be never ending as non is perfect save Allah.
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 27th June 2014 12:30
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His good work can be used without any links leading back to him. No need to promote, agree.
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