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#1 [Permalink] Posted on 24th June 2014 19:35
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Many knowledgeable Muslims think that there are huge differences between Saudi Salafis and Madhkhalis (a.k.a Ahl-e-Hadith). Generally such misunderstanding stems from apparent well behaviour of Saudi scholars, their call for unity and tolerance, accepting A'immah Mujtahideen as Salaf, condemning Ijtihaad of laymen etc. There are arguments and counter arguments on this matter and even plenty of Deobandi scholars are also ensnared by the idea that Ahl-e-Hadith cult is bad, Saudi Salafis are good. There is strong basis for such assumption. Saudi scholars visit Deoband, appreciate its scholarship, respect Deobandi 'Ulama etc, so why in the world they'll believe "rumours" about Saudis' conspiracy?

Under the cloak of "Hanbali Madhhab" and "Taqleed ghayr shaksi" they preach the identical version of Deen which Madhkhalis do. They fool us but we are blinded by their techniques. Anyway, this thread is started to observe fatwas of the leading Salafi site "islamqa", often quoted by many brothers of this forum. These fatwas will speak for themselves insha Allaah.

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#2 [Permalink] Posted on 24th June 2014 20:14
A new Muslim inquires about Islam. He is being given some "authentic stuff from Quran and Sunnah" to practise upon. The provided materials DO NOT accept differences of opinions and represent their "Sahih" version, blatantly declaring it as the correct approach.

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A New Muslim Wants to Learn the Religion


Question: My questions involves many things. I am a very new convert and at first I was praying all prayers as best I could (I dont know Arabic) Someone told me I should only speak in Arabic, so in the end I have stopped praying. I think of Allah many times in the day and follow the teachings but some things I know are wrong i cannot stop. Since Allah called me, I have improved my life immensely and am happier than i have been in a very long time. I used to be drunk every day but now I almost don't drink at all. I used to gamble all my money but now I almost don't gamble at all when I do these wrong things I can feel it is wrong and don't want to go back to my old ways. I can feel Allah is guiding me in ways I don't understand. I dont feel guilty I just feel why am I doing this. I have asked a few Muslim people I work with and even a person I met online to teach me to pray properly and help me in other ways but because I am Australian they don't feel I am being serious about being Muslim so they have been reluctant I am not a good person I think but I am much better than I have been and with His help an guidance I know I will succeed. There are many things for me to learn.Please give me your advise; should I keep trying by myself,or continue to seek help from other Muslims even though they seem not to want to.

Answer: Praise be to Allaah.

Praise be to Allaah first and last, and thanks be to Him always. He blesses whomsoever He will with guidance, and deprives whomsoever He will of happiness. He saves His slave from misguidance and supports His close friends until the Hour begins.

My dear Muslim brother, congratulations on your being blessed with guidance. We ask Allaah to make you steadfast until death.

It was a great achievement when you decided to embrace Islam and give up the misguidance in which you had grown up and the shirk [association of others with Allaah] which is forbidden. We welcome you as a new brother in Islam and we welcome you as a visitor to this site.

First of all, we would remind you that in this world man passes through great tests and trials, which require him to be patient and steadfast, and to stand firm until death.

"O man! Verily, you are returning towards your Lord with your deeds and actions (good or bad), a sure returning, and you will meet (the results of your deeds which you did)"

[al-Inshiqaaq 84:6 - interpretation of the meaning]


One of the trials with which Allaah tests His slaves is the enjoining of obligations and duties such as prayer, fasting, zakaah (poor due), Hajj (pilgrimage) and other acts of worship, and the things that He forbids them to do such as lying, cheating, adultery, homosexuality and all other forbidden things, so as to see the sincere believer who obeys the commands of Allaah, so that He may admit him to Paradise, and the liar and hypocrite who does not obey Allaah, so that He may send him to Hell.

Try to do your best to learn what Allaah commands, and do it, and what He forbids, and avoid it.

There are many commands, and many prohibitions, and it is impossible to list them or explain them all in one place. But we refer you to what is mentioned in this site of ours of questions that deal with the teachings of Islam, so you can look at it and read what it says, and may Allaah benefit you thereby.

With regard to what you mention in your question about having to learn Arabic, this is true, but you do not have to learn the whole language, rather just what you need for religious purposes. See question no. 6524. The fact that you do not know Arabic does not justify your not praying, because you can learn what you need for prayer in a short period of time, and until you learn it you should still continue to pray regularly on time, and pray according to what you are able to do. "Allaah burdens not a person beyond his scope" [al-Baqarah 2:286].

With regard to how to pray, you will find the answer to that on this site, under Question no. 13340. See also 8580, 2427, 11040.

Finally we advise you to look for an Islamic Centre in your city, and to keep company with Muslims who practice their religion. Do not forget to read trustworthy websites, and try to benefit from them as much as you can. We will also be happy to help you and others like you who are looking for things that will benefit them, and we will offer whatever advice we can, so keep in touch with us. May Allaah protect you and take care of you.

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Question no. 13340: What is Description of the Prophet's prayer?

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Praise be to Allaah........

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37. The right hand should be placed on the back of the left hand, wrist and forearm.

38. Sometimes the left hand may be grasped with the right. The combination of placing and grasping, which was favoured by some later scholars, has no basis.

Where they should be placed


39. The hands should be placed on the chest only; there is no difference between men and women in this regard. I say: placing them anywhere other than on the chest is da'eef (weak) or has no basis.

40. It is not permissible to put the right hand on the waist.........

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Talkhees Sifat Salaat al-Nabi (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) min al-Takbeer ila al-Tasleem ka annaka turaahaa by Shaykh Muhammad Naasir al-Deen al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him)
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#3 [Permalink] Posted on 24th June 2014 20:24
Islamqa.com is a Salafi site banned in Saud Arabia.

Islamqa.org is a site based purely on the madhabs.

There is a huge difference.

One needs to be careful before accepting or following the .com site.
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#4 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2014 03:05
Their apparent positive stance on Madhahib, yet mixed with their "strongest daleel" opinion (blue colour indicates positive and red indicates problems):

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Which of the four Madhhabs is most correct?


Question: People believe in 4 imams. My confusion is which one is right path and about (Jamat-al-muslimeen)?

Answer: Praise be to Allaah.

Allaah has made our worship based on His Book and the Sunnah of His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The right way is to understand the texts of sharee'ah as they were understood by the Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and their followers among the scholars who are qualified and prominent mujtahids. This includes the imaams whose sincerity, fairness and leadership in religion, knowledge, virtue, goodness and righteousness is a matter of record. The four imaams and founders of the schools of Islamic fiqh (Imaam Abu Haneefah, Imaam Maalik, Imaam al-Shaafa'i and Imaam Ahmad) - may Allaah have mercy on them all - all followed the texts of the Sharee'ah and their efforts were all focused on teaching and spreading sound Islamic knowledge. All of them were on the right path, and all were devoted followers of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). If mistakes happened, then the Sahaabah made mistakes too.

The things to be followed in Sharee'ah are those for which evidence (daleel) is established. In some cases, some scholars may not have known of daleel whilst others did, but this does not mean that their knowledge and ability is to be discredited. All of them were seeking to find and propagate the truth. If a person wants to follow one of the Imaams and adopt his madhhab, then he should follow him in matters for which there is clear, sound daleel, for this is what is required in Islam, but he should not develop partisan or sectarian feelings towards anybody. It is not permissible for the Muslim to believe that he has to follow anybody in all that he says except the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

The person who is suitably qualified can examine what the scholars said and see what is supported by sound daleel. The "rank and file" Muslim who does not know how to examine the evidence and weigh it up should follow a scholar whose religious commitment and knowledge he trusts, and act according to his fatwas. And Allaah knows best.

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1. "All of them were on the right path"- then why seek for daleel?

2. "If mistakes happened, then the Sahaabah made mistakes too."- Ijtihadi mistakes are forgiven, then why should we seek for daleel?

3. "The things to be followed in Sharee'ah are those for which evidence (daleel) is established.", "If a person wants to follow one of the Imaams and adopt his madhhab, then he should follow him in matters for which there is clear, sound daleel,"- what is the base of this "established, clear, sound daleel"? Saudi scholars of last century? Why can't daleel of numerous scholars from Salaf and their true followers be considered as "established, clear, sound daleel"?

4. ".....but he should not develop partisan or sectarian feelings towards anybody. It is not permissible for the Muslim to believe that he has to follow anybody in all that he says except the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)."- isn't it what Salafis do? Madhkhalis who accept Albaani's fatwa wholeheartedly and blatantly reject anything differs from it?

5. "The person who is suitably qualified can examine what the scholars said and see what is supported by sound daleel."- Allaahu Akbar! The door of Ijtihaad is still open!
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#5 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2014 04:11
Hey, those introductions weren't there before in the first two posts!

anyway, what's the plan? you going to reproduce majority of the site?

everyone knows they are salafee or ghair muqallid. abu m and others reproduce their work but with caution. when I asked abu m why he does so, he said that because some of the answers are correct and a similar answer found in the deo sites aren't well presented.

at first I thought you were promoting the site, but since it's back it's clear that you are trying to explain/expose them, but everyone already knows that, especially those who post from there too.

btw, the qa.com site redirects to qa.info
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#6 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2014 05:04
Its a good thread.. let it live.
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#7 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2014 07:08
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As-salam-u-'Alaykum, what if someone isn't aware?
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#8 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2014 08:23
I think it would be a good idea to put a brief disclaimer with each q & a post...the opening page explains the purpose and the difference in colour coding in the thread, but thereafter will not be noticed once the first page has passed. Just a suggestion, but a brief note on the colour coding at bottom of each post would be helpful, inshaallah.

جزاك الله خيرا
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#9 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2014 08:42
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Good point.

InshaAllah, I will go through my posts and update them notifying readers that the answer is from a Salafi site. Although I have mentioned it in some cases that they are Salafi. I've also done some posts regarding why they are used and why sometimes the deobandi sites don't really give proper answers.
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#10 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2014 08:44
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Now my posts giving the clarification looks a bit silly. Those introductions we're not there before :)
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#11 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2014 08:52
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Sorry about that. I requested him to update first post to include more info which he did.

Good thread, jzk
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#12 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2014 09:35
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Here's one of my posts briefly stating my reasons.

www.muftisays.com/forums/86-qa-support--fiqh/8502-fiqh-qa...

There is another thread but in a private section where we discuss this in detail.

InshaAllah, I will still update those posts where Islamqa.info (islamqa.com) has been used.
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#13 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2014 10:15
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Ok, I've gone through my post's (in the Q&A section only) as well as some that weren't mine and posted this next to the source
FROM A SALAFI SITE BUT THE ANSWER HERE IS GENERAL

In one instance, I changed it to FROM A SALAFI SITE BUT THE ANSWER HERE IS FOR INFORMATION as they presented the rulings of the other schools too. But that post already stated in the beginning that it was a Salafi site.
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#14 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2014 11:10
Shafi'i brothers, Islamqa has refuted established mas'alah of your Madhhab:

(Blue colour indicates positive and red indicates problematic statements)

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Does a madhhab take priority over a hadeeth?

Question: I have a question pertaining to the Hadith and Sunnah Nabi (s.a.w.) and the Madhhab. My country follows the teachings of Madhhab Imam Shafiee and therefore so too the people. There are instances where the teachings of the madhhab took precedent over the hadith and sunnah of the Nabi (s.a.w.). Which should I follow. eg. In Madhhab Imam Shafiee, the wudho is broken if a male purposely or accidentally touch a female either muhrim or not. I have come across a Sunnah Nabi (s.a.w.), who used to move Aishah's (r.a.) leg while performing the fajr prayers. eg. Muslims in my country are thougt that during the Haj, their niat for wudho to switch from the Madhhab Shafiee to that of Madhaab Hambali and perform the wudho as followers of Madhhad Hambali do. The reason for this is as stated in the example above. Is this right, switching from one Madhhab to another during performing the Haj. eg. In Madhhab Shafiee, its is sunat muakad to recite the Doa Qunut during Fajr prayers. Did the Nabi(s.a.w.) recite the Doa Qunut during His Fajr prayers. What is the hukum for ones that do not recite the Doa Qunut.

Answer: Praise be to Allaah.

What is obligatory is to follow that which is indicated by the evidence (daleel) of the Qur'aan and Sunnah, even if it differs from what the madhhab says. But it is essential to understand the Qur'aan and Sunnah as they were understood by the Salaf, and not only by our understanding of them. What is meant by the Salaf is the Sahaabah and the Taabi'een.

Concerning the example which you gave, touching a woman does not break wudoo' at all, whether it is done with desire or not - because of the hadeeth that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) kissed one of his wives and then went out to pray, and he did not repeat his wudoo'. But if a man emits something (madhiy) because of desire, then he has to do wudoo' - not because of the act of touching, but because something came out from him.

With regard to the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): "...or you have been in contact with [lit. touched] women..." [al-Maa'idah 5:6] - this is referring to sexual intercourse, according to the correct view.


2- There is no need to move from one madhhab to another. The obligatory duties of hajj should be performed as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) performed them, because he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Take your rituals from me."

The correct view concerning Qunoot in Fajr prayer is that it is Sunnah at times of calamity only, i.e., if a disaster has befallen the Muslims or some of them, then it is mustahabb to do Qunoot and to pray to Allaah to grant them relief. But under normal circumstances, the correct view is that this is not mustahabb, and this is what the daleel (evidence) refers to. So whoever does not do Qunoot, his prayer is still valid, even according to the Shaafa'is, may Allaah have mercy on them.

And Allaah knows best.

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1. "What is obligatory is to follow that which is indicated by the evidence (daleel) of the Qur'aan and Sunnah, even if it differs from what the madhhab says."

In the last fatwa it was said- "The four imaams and founders of the schools of Islamic fiqh (Imaam Abu Haneefah, Imaam Maalik, Imaam al-Shaafa'i and Imaam Ahmad) - may Allaah have mercy on them all - all followed the texts of the Sharee'ah and their efforts were all focused on teaching and spreading sound Islamic knowledge. All of them were on the right path, and all were devoted followers of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)."

Now, what should we conclude from these contradictory statements? He is asserting that 4 Imams were on the right path, followed texts of the Shari'ah, were devoted followers of Rasoolullaah (saw) etc. YET how is it possible for their daleel to differ from Quran and Sunnah? If their daleel doesn't match with Quran-Sunnah, then where did they derive rulings from? Did they innovate these?

2. "What is meant by the Salaf is the Sahaabah and the Taabi'een."

See? What a cunning plot! Now the Salaf means Sahabah and Tabi'in! What about another generation CLEARLY mentioned in Hadith?

Now let's see a quote from another fatwa (will be posted later insha Allaah):

"Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him) said:

What is meant by the salafi madhhab is the way of the salaf (early generations) of this ummah, namely the Sahaabah, Taabi'een and prominent imams with regard to issues of 'aqeedah, sound method, sincere faith and adherence to the beliefs, laws, etiquette and conduct of Islam, unlike the innovators, deviants and those who are confused.

Among the most prominent of those who advocated the madhhab or way of the salaf were the four imams, Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah and his students, Shaykh Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Wahhaab and his students, and other reformers and renewers; there is no era when there was not someone who is establishing evidence for the right way.

There is nothing wrong with calling them Ahl al-Sunnah wa'l-Jamaa'ah, so as to differentiate between them and the followers of deviant groups. This is not praising oneself, rather it is distinguishing between the people of truth and the people of falsehood. End quote.

Al-Muntaqa min Fataawa al-Shaykh al-Fawzaan, 1/question no. 206.
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This Sheikh, Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid has quoted Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan which means he accepts his view. But now he is trying to narrow down "Salaf" into Sahabah and Tabi'in!

What might be the reason? To exclude Imam Shafi' رحمة الله عليه from Salaf so that his mas'alah can be proven wrong?

3. .....touching a woman does not break wudoo' at all.....

So, Imam Shafi' رحمة الله عليه, being a student of Imam Malik رحمة الله عليه and other scholars from the Salaf, couldn't understand meaning of that Hadith and verse of the Quran which you've understood? You, a graduate from Saudi universities are blatantly declaring his mas'alah incorrect? You've resolved an ikhtilaaf which even the Imams couldn't?

4. "There is no need to move from one madhhab to another."

It seems correct at the first glance. But see what he states after this:

"The obligatory duties of hajj should be performed as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) performed them, because he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Take your rituals from me."

Where did Imams take rulings from other than Quran-Sunnah? Is he trying to say- "don't bother about Madhhab. Take rulings from Albaani & co."?

5. The rest is upon Shafi'i brothers.
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#15 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2014 12:39
I studied where the English translations for that site happen in Riyadh (Saudia) and know a lot of people and they are NOT Madhab followers either Salafi or Ahl-e-Hadeeth from India/Pakistan. In fact the place is dominated by Indian/Pakistani Ahl-e-Hadeeth who masquerade as "Salafees".

The Salafi Ulama (who give answers) almost predominantly follow Hanbali Madhab while Ahl-e-Hadeeth don't follow any Madhab but during translations and presentations (and which Fatwa gets translated) "choices" are made!

With the Saudia Government now cracking down the influence of Ahle-Hadeeth and Al-Albani Salafees is waning in Saudia.

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