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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd June 2014 21:57
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From the Malfuzat of Faqih ul Ummat Hazrat Mufti Mahmood Hasan Gangohi رحمة الله عليه

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Explanation of Tasarruf-e-Baatini And The Incident of Hadhrat Saharanpuri رحمة الله عليه



Questioner: What is the meaning of tasarruf-e-baatini that the mashaayikh carry out?

Mufti Sahib: What is the tasarruf-e-zaahiri that they carry out?


Questioner: Explain them both.


Mufti Sahib: There lived in Meerut an `aalim by the name of Moulana Mufti Kifayatullah Sahib. He had taught at Deoband as well as in Saharanpur and he was bay`at to Hadhrat Shaikh-ul-Hind Rahmatullahi Alayhi. When Hadhrat Shaikh-ul-Hind was imprisoned in Malta a certain state of mind overcame him and he thought of committing suicide. He would sometimes take a knife whilst at times he would go to a well with the intention of committing suicide. He became disinterested towards his zikr. Moreover, his shaikh was not present. Thus, he wrote a letter to Hadhrat Saharanpuri Rahmatullahi Alayhi relating his condition to him. Hadhrat replied: It is quite surprising that you have considered me fit for this task. This task is far beyond me.

Thus, he became extremely perturbed and decided to travel to Moulana Thanwi Rahmatullahi Alayhi in Thanabawan via Deoband and Saharanpur. However, when he reached Saharanpur he was unable to locate the train to Thanabawan. Hence, he was compelled to lodge at Madrasah Mazahir-ul-Uloom. On seeing him, Hadhrat Saharanpuri embraced him and seated him besides himself.

After speaking for a few moments Hadhrat told him, "It is surprising that you wrote up to me. Where am I capable of fulfilling such a task?" Plucking up courage he said, "Hadhrat! If someone says that you are not fit for this task then he is not criticising you but rather Hadhrat Gangohi Rahmatullahi Alayhi, that how did he appoint an unqualified person as his khalifah. I was nurtured in the very same place from where you received all that you have achieved. I deserve being shown mercy. Have mercy on my pitiable condition."

Hadhrat replied, "Very well." He then prescribed the tera tasbeeh (a certain form of zikr) for him and said, "Recite this zikr so loudly at the time of tahajjud that I will be able to hear it." Hadhrat Saharanpuri's home was close to the Madrasah.

Mufti Kifayatullah replied, "Could you please excuse me. I will not be able to carry out this zikr." Hadhrat told him, "Do not worry. Just continue doing what you are supposed to do. Someone had come to our Hadhrat with a similar condition and Hadhrat had prescribed the very treatment."

Nevertheless, Mufti Kifayatullah Sahib made the zikr at the latter portion of the night. After Fajr, Hadhrat Saharanpuri went into his room and asked him to sit near the door with his eyes closed. He followed Hadhrat's instructions.

Mufti Kifayatullah relates: "I did not know what Hadhrat was doing inside the room but I could feel as if my heart was injured; it was full of pus and Hadhrat was massaging it to remove the pus. On several occasions I opened my eyes to see whether Hadhrat was outside, but he was still inside. After performing Ishraaq salaah Hadhrat came out of the room and with a smile asked me, "How do you feel." I replied, "Alhamdulillah, I am fine."

Thereafter, Hadhrat asked me to join him as he went to deliver the Bukhaari Shareef lesson. Hadhrat's lessons used to be brief but I began posing all sorts of questions and for each question Hadhrat gave several answers. Regarding some of the answers he said, 'Do not search for this in the kitaabs because it does not appear therein.' The amount of anwaraat (effulgence) and barakaat (blessings) I had witnessed in the lesson was never experienced by me elsewhere.

After Ishraaq I told Hadhrat that I had initially intended going to Thanabawan. Hadhrat replied, 'Most definitely go. However, on your return stay over for one more day because there is still some deficiency.' I could not understand what was still deficient. Nevertheless, I went to Thanabawan and the next day on my return I came to Saharanpur and instead of staying over for one day I stayed for two days. This time I felt as though something was being filled in my heart which was giving me strength. It was as though on the first visit my heart was cleansed from all filth and now it was being filled with strength and radiance. Thereafter Hadhrat said, 'I am now satisfied. You may go.'"

The reason for Hadhrat telling him, "I am surprised that you consider me to be fit for this task," was that when Mufti Kifayatullah was in Saharanpur he acknowledged Hadhrat's status with regards to `ilm (knowledge) but he did not accept him with regards to tasawwuf. However, now in this state of distress he realised that his problem could only be solved by Hadhrat. Thus, by saying this he removed the suspicions from his heart. His confidence in Hadhrat was now established and he also received benefit through this.



Q: Will a person to whom Allah Ta`ala bestows the ability of tasarruf-e-baatini be able to make tasarruf as and when he wishes?

A: A blade will be able to cut as long as Allah Ta`ala wishes, otherwise not.



Tasarruf-e-Zaahiri


Q: What is tasarruf-e-zaahiri?

A: Tasarruf-e-zaahiri is where a person imparts lessons the entire day. However, this is not like the jaahil (ignorant person) who pretended to be a sufi. Once, his mureeds and associates came to him and remained with him for some time. He then said: motoo (I want to relieve myself.) The mureeds thought to themselves that Hadhrat is saying: Mutoo Qabla An Tamutoo (Annihilate yourself before you die.)

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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd June 2014 21:57
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I have plenty of questions myself, but it'll look like I'm debating and denying. Similarly the tabligh threads. They all end up down hill.

Personally if people want to genuinely learn, then they should read up on it from threads such as these and ask reputable Ulama who are readily available.

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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd June 2014 22:18
Assalaamualaikum was rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu respected brothers who have sacrificed their time to share knowledge with us:

MashaAllah, a very beneficial thread. Insha'Allah, would the following format of question/request be agreeable to all?

Please share writings that pertain to or address in some way female mureeds (mureedah?).

I apologize if this has already been covered in posts to this point - I haven't had a chance to read through yet. JazakAllah khayran.
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd June 2014 22:40
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I dont think there is any harm if people ask questions.. provided the answers are from the work of ulema & Mashaikh.. [/quote]

I never said otherwise

[quote="Yasin"]The following subjects can only be posted if they are works of Ulamaa. No personal input is permitted regarding the following subjects due to their nature and the incapability of Muslims to remain calm about the issues within these subject.
a) Tableegh
b) Tasawwuf
c) More may be added
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd June 2014 01:22
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Except that I gave my copy to someone as a gift. Will look for a pdf of it online إن شاء الله...
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd June 2014 18:55
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i.e. how would tasarruf be applicable to women (all women - not just those directly related to mashaykh that have such an ability)? I am confused on this point. I've tried to read a bit, both here and through the links to and through SF but, and perhaps due to my quite limited knowledge, I just couldn't absorb it all - especially in relation to women; it just seems quite impossible for such a practice to be available for everyone.

Information in this regard "from the work of ulema & Mashaik" would be most appreciated.

JazakAllah khayran.
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd June 2014 19:08
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Do mean to to say u would like to know of the women who possesed Tasarruf.. ?
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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd June 2014 19:12
Oh, is that the answer? SubhanAllah. Yes, please do provide information on this.

I was actually thinking it was something only mashaykh would do but I missed that point entirely... my brain was on overdrive. I apologize. JazakAllah khayran for the clarification that not only mashaykh possess tasarruf.
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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd June 2014 19:21
There are many pious women mentioned in books whom Allah سبحانه وتعالى had given such ability, the daughter of Hazrat Maulana Rasheed Ahmed Gangohi رحمة الله عليه was one such lady.. shall post later إن شاء الله

There were also women who were sahib e karamat.. had a very strong connection with Allah سبحانه وتعالى ..
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd June 2014 20:06
Dr76,hopefully my question is appropriate,if it is not the administrators should delete my post as I don,t want such a nice thread to be spoiled.

QUESTION:"Most people don,t have any confusion about the objectives of tasawwuf,which is Tazkia,their objection is more related to the methods used in tasawwuf,like movements of head during Jahr,Habse dam,various ashghal etc....in my view all such things seems to be related one way or the other to improve concentration.Mashaikh seems to have relaxed the rules in such cases to the extent that they included even those methods traditionally used by 'yogi,s'...for example concentrating on the tip of nose or between the eye brows...or listening to some imaginary sounds inside their brain (Shughul e sarmadi)...or various breathing exercises etc.I may be wrong but 'Tasarruf' you discussed in your previous posts look like a direct or indirect out come of such exercises at least in some cases if not all.

I would appreciate if you can educate us on this point with references from authentic Uluma.

Again if my post is a distraction or the question is inappropriate,it may kindly be blocked or deleted.
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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd June 2014 21:25
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"Guest wrote:I may be wrong but 'Tasarruf' you discussed in your previous posts look like a direct or indirect out come of such exercises at least in some cases if not all."

Yes its possible to gain Tasarruf by such exercises..

Some Mashaikh did observe Ashghal like the concentration methods u mentioned ( Zia ul Quloob By Hazrat Haji Imdadullah Muhajir Makki رحمة الله عليه is one such book containing such ashghal) .. to train their minds into focusing on Allah سبحانه وتعالى alone.. and the sidefeffect in such cases was Tasarruf..

So Tasarruf is power of the mind at play.. which can be natural (gifted) or acquired by someone..

The following is an excerpt from Malfoozat of Hazrat Mufti Mahmood Hasan Gangohi رحمة الله عليه


Incident of Quwwat-e-tasarruf (strength of imagination)

P:540 - 542

In Saharanpur, a person from the Ambetha area used to say, "I am able to enable anyone to see Nabi (saw) by merely placing his head beneath my arm." Someone asked Moulana Khaleel Ahmad Saharanpuri رحمة الله عليه whether this person was really true in his claim or not. Hadhrat replied, "He is true but do not go to him for he is a bid`ati."

He was a relative of Hadhrat Saharanpuri .Mufti Farooq Sahib then enquired from Hadhrat (Mufti Sahib) regarding his name. Mufti Sahib رحمة الله عليه replied that his name was Molwi Shabbeer Ali. He was able to do this through his strong tasarruf (power of imagination) through which he would remove all the veils between one and Madinah.

He had a mureed who was also a sahib-e-tasarruf who lived in the Shah Bahlool district of Saharanpur. He used to also display his various feats. I used to meet him quite often. Once he came to Deoband and he remained in Muraaqabah for some time in the cemetery. After returning from the cemetery he came to a gathering where the asaatizah (teachers) were seated. He sat in muraaqabah and began exposing the conditions of the asaatizah.

Sometimes his information used to turn out to be incorrect. When he came to Saharanpur he remarked after seeing the library, "Oh! What scarce and rare kitaabs are here. When there will be a transition in the government in 1940 there will be bloodshed and the Sikhs or some other group will take over. They will then destroy this library and their leader's name will be Abdur Rahman. The Jama` Musjid in Saharanpur will be changed to a temple."

This poor person later passed away. In 1947 the government did change but it was neither the Sikhs nor anyone else. Instead, it was us who took control. Who will now go and ask him after he has gone to the grave. This mureed once related: I had gone to Bombay with my Peer Molwi Shabbeer Ali. I received a letter informing me of the birth of my son. I desired to see my newly born son. When I expressed my desire to my peer Sahib he replied, "You will see your son when you return home." I told him, "I wish to see my son now." He then asked me to close my eyes and lower my head.

After I closed my eyes I felt as if the ground beneath me was moving and I passed different towns until I reached Saharanpur. I then felt as if I was walking towards my home. Upon reaching home, I saw my wife and son. I stretched out my hand to rub it over my son. As soon as I stretched my hand the ground began to retract and I returned to Bombay swiftly.

My Hadhrat reprimanded me saying, "What were you trying to do? What if your child and wife died out of shock after seeing your hand stretching out from the unseen?"

Hadhrat (Mufti Sahib) commented, "These types of incidents do not affect me in the least bit because they are all linked to Quwwat-e-Tasarruf. They are achieved through spiritual exercises and a disbeliever can also acquire it. They are based on one's effort.

Nevertheless, Allah Ta`ala has not created us for this purpose. The main objective is to follow the sunnat and remain steadfast on shari`ah. Allah has created us so that we follow the shari`ah and the path of Nabi (saw) and show kindness to the Makhlooq (creation)."


Q: Are all these feats as a result of shaitaani thoughts or are they due to the power of imagination?

A: Sometimes it is due to a shaitaani effect and sometimes it is due to strong imagination. Medical experts regard this as an interruption in reasoning.

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duas..

wa Assalam..
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd June 2014 21:35
something from Malfuzaat Hakeem ul Ummat رحمة الله عليه

192) The power of the mind is an accepted fact. I have heard the following episode from Maulana Muhammad Yaqub رحمة الله عليه :

"A man imagined that a lion attacked him and struck its paw against his back. So strong was his imagination that a lion's claw marks were discernible on his back. Even blood would flow from the wound of his imagination."
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd June 2014 23:20
السلام عليكم

How can a biddati gain direct contact with Rasoolalah (saw) through the power of his mind/imagination ?


I don't know it doesn't seem right for some reason as the status of Rasoolalah (saw) is no ordinary thing , for people to be even blessed to see him in a dream or a state of being awake is indeed the fadhl of Allah that only happens on the lucky few.


Any further clarification on this would be appreciated.
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 24th June 2014 02:33
I've questions, please answer "from the work of Ulama & Mashaikh".

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"These types of incidents do not affect me in the least bit because they are all linked to Quwwat-e-Tasarruf. They are achieved through spiritual exercises and a disbeliever can also acquire it. They are based on one's effort.
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A disbeliever can too acquire it? I thought only pious people can achieve it. Please elaborate on how & why they can achieve it too.

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This mureed once related: I had gone to Bombay with my Peer Molwi Shabbeer Ali. I received a letter informing me of the birth of my son. I desired to see my newly born son. When I expressed my desire to my peer Sahib he replied, "You will see your son when you return home." I told him, "I wish to see my son now." He then asked me to close my eyes and lower my head.

After I closed my eyes I felt as if the ground beneath me was moving and I passed different towns until I reached Saharanpur. I then felt as if I was walking towards my home. Upon reaching home, I saw my wife and son. I stretched out my hand to rub it over my son. As soon as I stretched my hand the ground began to retract and I returned to Bombay swiftly.

My Hadhrat reprimanded me saying, "What were you trying to do? What if your child and wife died out of shock after seeing your hand stretching out from the unseen?"


[quote="dr76"]"A man imagined that a lion attacked him and struck its paw against his back. So strong was his imagination that a lion's claw marks were discernible on his back. Even blood would flow from the wound of his imagination."


I want to ask, why do we read such incidents as quoted above only in stories & books? Why we not see them in real life through people actually around us?

Jazakumullahu khairan.
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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 24th June 2014 05:42
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A biddati most probably can not get direct contact with the Prophet salallaho alaihe wa sallam.....the person mentioned in the story might be exercising his mind control over others,so that they believed what they saw in the sphere of his 'stronger' imagination.....this is what we technically call 'tasarruf'. Just like 'muscles' get strength with exercise,the mind too becomes stronger when focused,the more focused the better.

The reason of my previous post was to bring this point out into open,as many might mistakenly consider it as part of 'buzurgi'.IT IS NOT.How can something which is common between a kafir and a Muslim...and a biddati and Ahle Sunna....be considered as part of Sulook ( with the exception that an Ahle eeman,Muttaqi Shaikh exercising tasarruf is for good effects and is an additional asset for him,which should be appreciated).

KARAMAT on the other hand is entirely different.It is an honour bestowed by Allah upon one of his obedient servants.The 'doer' in case of KARAMAT is Allah swt,the act is just expressed through an Abd.Sometime the Wali by whose hands such karamat is expressed,is not even aware of what is happening and is as surprised as others.Obviously such a person being in the good books must be a Mo'men and a strict follower of Sunna....a kafir or biddati is NOT honoured by Allah swt.Wallaho Alam.

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