Iran vows to combat 'terrorism' in Iraq

#31 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2014 12:08

It is impossible that almahdi emerges this year. There will be instability in saudi arabia at that time. Saudi arabia is stable right now.

Even if almahdi comes what will you do?

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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2014 12:11

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Even if almahdi comes what will you do?

InshaAllah, join him and follow him. But we all obviously know it's not gonna happen in the near future. But, the intention must be there and true

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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2014 16:37

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Dear guest, how are you so sure that it's impossible? The whole world is going through rapid changes. KSA is stable right now doesn't mean situation will remain same after 3 months.

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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2014 16:45

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Sounds like 'wishful thinking' to be honest.

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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2014 17:49

Iran will "consider" joint action with US in Iraq, Hassan Rouhani says

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/108997...

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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2014 20:10

Whatever it is,there is certainly instability very close to the 'nerve centres' of Islam.This Shia-Sunni fight is not going to end soon,rather it has all the potential to spread,it's point of culmination might be bloodshed in 'MINA'....how close is it,only Allah knows,but we seem to be moving towards that end.....

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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2014 22:03

Even though Iran and the shiites are big enemies of islam but the biggest of all are and will always be the apostate kafir sunnis like many sufis, modernists, barelvis and all kind of variations from them. The shiites in Iraq and also in Syria only do that what is best for them. We cannot expect from them to act different. We cannot bother a shiite because he supports Assad because a great part from the opposition of Assad aims to kill every shiite. The same in Iraq. If ISIS reaches to the south or to Samarra by the will of Allah they will destroy all shrines. It is understandeable that Iran will try to prevent this.

We should remember that the first fitna amongst the muslims was that with the apostates under the Riddah Wars. The biggest enemies are the aposates who refuse the rule of islam and that is exactly what sufis, barelvis and modernists preach. Imam Muhammad Zahid Al Kawthari said that the secularists of his time could be compared to the apostates at the time of Abu Bakr.

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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2014 22:42

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Brother HSAT,there seems to some big 'holes' in your concepts regarding a Sufi,s.

Sufi is not a sect,it has no separate Aqaed different from Ahle sunnat wal Jamat,Their name can not be mentioned in the same breath along with seculars,modernists,Barelvi,s and apostates.Probably you take your references form 'salafi' sources :(

In contrast to what you say,Sufi,s have always been on the forefront to defend Islam and the Muslims .From Shaikh Abdul Qadir Jilani to Shaikh Ahmad Sarhindi,from Imam Shamil to Syed Ahmad Shaheed,from Imam Ghazali to Shah Waliullah ,from Imam Sanusi to Imam Hasan Al Banna(Rahemahumullah),Sufi,s have only tried to serve Islam with utmost sincerity and dedication.They have always been on the forefront against Bid'a .....The whole movement of Ulamae Deoband is a testimony to this fact...that is the case of subcontinent but there were other similar Sufi movements in other parts of Africa and Asia with the same mission.

I agree there might be individuals doing more damage than good,but as a whole Sufi,s have done more good than causing damage to the cause of Islam.

I suggest you study more on this subject with an open and unbiased mind.

I will stop here because this is not the topic under discussion.

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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2014 23:02

Of course you are right. I myself am a sufi naqshabandi too. I just use this in a generalized way because there is a majoritiy of bad sufis. That is like saying salafi even though salaf is something good. Also shia comes from shiatu Aly which is the party of Imam Aly and Alul Bayt. They are in fact on the truth but thoose who ascribe themselves to them are not.

So theoretically being a sufi is something perfect. However statistically if one is a sufi he won't be alright. Please forgive me the misunderstanding. Barakallah.

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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 14th June 2014 23:26

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"The biggest enemies are the aposates who refuse the rule of islam and that is exactly what sufis, barelvis and modernists preach"

Well akhii you make some interesting points but you've made the wrong generalisations and a typical Salafi one as they like to associate all Sufis with the brelvis as soofi qaboori's, the main question is how do you deal with these people ?

Look at the current situation in Syria, anyone who disagrees with your understanding of things, they'll make takfeer on him and then it's all permissible to kill him and his family BHAM BHAM

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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 15th June 2014 08:13

MashaAllah, I feel very happy to see Muslims who are actually concerned about Ummah and ready to join Al Mahdi.
InshaAllah brothers, side by side, One Army.

Allahu akbar!

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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 15th June 2014 16:24

"The Islamist extremist some are now calling the most dangerous man in the world had a few parting words to his captors as he was released from the biggest U.S. detention camp in Iraq in 2009.

'He said, "I'll see you guys in New York."' And who knows? The way things are going, maybe he will.

"ISIS Leader: 'See You in New York,'"
by Michael Daly, The Daily Beast, June 14, 2014:

When Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi walked away from a U.S. detention camp in 2009, the future leader of ISIS issued some chilling final words to reservists from Long Island.
The Islamist extremist some are now calling the most dangerous man in the world had a few parting words to his captors as he was released from the biggest U.S. detention camp in Iraq in 2009.
"He said, 'I'll see you guys in New York,'" recalls Army Col. Kenneth King, then the commanding officer of Camp Bucca.
King didn't take these words from Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as a threat. Al-Baghdadi knew that many of his captors were from New York, reservists with the 306 Military Police Battalion, a unit based on Long Island that includes numerous numerous members of the NYPD and the FDNY. The camp itself was named after FDNY Fire Marshal Ronald Bucca, who was killed at the World Trade Center in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
King figured that al-Baghdadi was just saying that he had known all along that it was all essentially a joke, that he had only to wait and he would be freed to go back to what he had been doing.
"Like, 'This is no big thing, I'll see you on the block,'" King says.
King had not imagined that in less that five years he would be seeing news reports that al-Baghdadi was the leader of ISIS, the ultra-extremist army that was sweeping through Iraq toward Baghdad.
"I'm not surprised that it was someone who spent time in Bucca but I'm a little surprised it was him," King says. "He was a bad dude, but he wasn't the worst of the worst."
King allows that along with being surprised he was frustrated on a very personal level.
"We spent how many missions and how many soldiers were put at risk when we caught this guy and we just released him," King says.

[edit: Anti-Islamic source link removed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad_Watch]

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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 15th June 2014 22:01

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I deal with somebody who says to be sufi by checking first some characteristics. The first one is music and dance with the zikr. If a sufi does this or accepts others to do this then we immediately know he cannot be on the true path. This is a filthy practice and Allah bewares his awliya from it. The second is accepting the sovereignty of Allah as a law-giver. If a sufi does not emphasize that the secular rule belongs to Allah there can't be any good in him. To this point belongs the rejection of democracy. Some other points could be mentionened but I think that they are redundant since the first two are quiet strict.

I am not agreeing with everything ISIS and I am also not a wahhabi. But what nobody can deny is that they have discipline and are consequent in enforcing what they believe to be right (except of some opportunism shown by the command). This consequent commanding virtue and prevention of vice is what Mawlana Desai teaches.

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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 16th June 2014 13:25

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I am not very knowledgeable or experienced but I don't think that it is possible to implement Shariah without great Hikmah and Baseerah in our times. Muslims are the first stumbling block in accepting Shariah themselves so great maneuvering is required and above all working together with other groups.

What I see around is huge sectarianism, everybody is on their Manhaj!

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#45 [Permalink] Posted on 16th June 2014 15:17

I saw some of the images on the front page newspaper in London, The Metro. the image displayed on there really didn't feel like it was authentic.

The picture was much more bigger on the front page of the newspaper. You can clearly see the image of a man sitting towards the end as if he's relaxing!

I haven't read or seen anything beyond that, so my first impressions were that its a fake.

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