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#106 [Permalink] Posted on 6th June 2014 15:10

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I have discussed with a Non-Salafi Maturidi Hanafi Shaykh strict on the Sunnah and Shaykh (Maulana) Rumi (RA) is no Daleel for us in Shariah.

Shaytaan praying and a Muslim praying with sincerity and devotion and beseeching his/her Creator is a massive difference and you are denying Hadeeth in quest of Tassawuff so I guess you can do that if you wish.

With the greatest respect.

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#107 [Permalink] Posted on 6th June 2014 15:13
shaykh abdul haq rh was from a family of sufis. He was also a sufi being from the qadri silsila linked to shaykh musa gilani rh. He was a famous sahib e huzoori and there is an incident of his stature when shaykh pir fazal ali shah quraishi rh went to the grave of ml anwar shah kashmiri rh. I shall leave the incident as most people will reject it.
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#108 [Permalink] Posted on 6th June 2014 15:14

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Brother, Please don't put words in my post. I didn't All teachers do Islah of their students.

If you have categorical evidence of these Ulama inducted into Tassawuff Silsilas please correct me.

Imam Abu Haneefa (RA) had teachers who were also his "Muslih" but in your world he had a Shaykh, did Bay't followed a Tareeqa for which you can provide ZERO evidence.

Having a "Muslih" and a Tareeqa are 2 separate matters.

Please quote the final position of Shaykh (Maulana) Ubaidullah Sindhi (RA) and not when as a young boy he came to Deoband.

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#109 [Permalink] Posted on 6th June 2014 15:14
also a disciple of shaykh abdul wahab mutaqi rh in the chisti, qadri and shazali tariqas.
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#110 [Permalink] Posted on 6th June 2014 15:15
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Hazrat Shaikh Abdul Haq Muhaddith Dehlawi رحمة الله عليه was the Khalifah of Hazrat Khwaja Baqibillah Naqshbandi رحمة الله عليه who was also the shaikh of Hazrat Mujaddid Alf Thaniرحمة الله عليه.

u are right about Hazrat Maulana Ubaidullah sindhi رحمة الله عليه.. he was attached to these Mashaikh..
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#111 [Permalink] Posted on 6th June 2014 15:18
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Please quote the final position of Shaykh (Maulana) Ubaidullah Sindhi (RA) and not when as a young boy he came to Deoband.
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#112 [Permalink] Posted on 6th June 2014 15:19
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yes he also had an association with hazrat khwaja baqi billah rh and thereafter later with hazrat mujadid rh though he was first against him. Was he not primarily qadri however? Dr76 please pull up the references.
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#113 [Permalink] Posted on 6th June 2014 15:19
In the subcontinent we have Ameerul-Mumineen Mullah Omar (HA) again with no Tareeqa, no Tassawuff

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It is a well known fact that Ameerul Momineen Mulla Omar (its mulla without an h) is related to naqshbandi silsila. If you contest this fact I can find out the name of his shaikh for you. The incident you mentioned of the pakistani shaikh is proof of what mufti as desai says that there are no shaikh e kaamil in this age. Strong adherence to Quraan, sunnah, the way of the salf e saliheen is what is required most today.

Shaykh Abdul Haq Dehelwi ra was an alim of the highest calibre. The reason why you fail to find intricate details of his tasawwuf training is because tasawwuf had not evolved into current day "hazrat worship" (like you call it).

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#114 [Permalink] Posted on 6th June 2014 15:19
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Hazrat Maulana Ubaidullah sindhi رحمة الله عليه was the person who had taken Hazrat Hakeem ul ummat Thanwiرحمة الله عليه to visit Hazrat Amroti رحمة الله عليه.. he was not a boy then.. and during his later stages.. due to excessive torture by Britishers Hazrat sindhi رحمة الله عليه 's mental stability was in question..
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#115 [Permalink] Posted on 6th June 2014 15:21
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At work now.. cant bring in refrences :-) may be when i reach home إن شاء الله..
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#116 [Permalink] Posted on 6th June 2014 15:23
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Also please find evidence of his spiritual training.
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#117 [Permalink] Posted on 6th June 2014 15:24
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shaykh abdul haq muhaddith dehlawi was a contemporary of mujadid alf thani rh and his shaykh therefore tasawuff was formalized. He even had his own khanqah. Inshallah dr76 shall furnish the references.
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#118 [Permalink] Posted on 6th June 2014 15:27
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Shaytaan was then Azazeel while he prayed.. a chief of Angels.. he wasnt not accursed then.. Hazrat Maulana Jalaluddin Rumi رحمة الله عليه is also an Alim and a Muslih.. plz see the explanation in the link for his quote given by none other than Hakeem ul Ummat Hazrat Thanwi رحمة الله عليه
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#119 [Permalink] Posted on 6th June 2014 15:27
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Why is it that a person get's very angry when their shaykh/group/ideology is insulted but show little concern when the noble personality of Rasulullah sallhuhiwaslaam is insulted or when Islam is insulted. In the latter case people seem to exercise extreme patience, there are calls for restraint etc?


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Why is it that a person get's very angry when their shaykh/group/ideology is insulted but show little concern when the noble personality of Rasulullah sallhuhiwaslaam is insulted or when Islam is insulted.


This is the question that needs to be answered! right?

Just my opinion (unqualified, not an Alim, not a Hafiz, not a Sufi, not a TJ, not a Jihadist, not even sure if I'm Deobandi at the rate things are going, oh and not Admin either)

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#120 [Permalink] Posted on 6th June 2014 15:28

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Sibgathul-Mujaddidi (Afghanistan) is known by us in the family and performed the Nikah of some of the girls in our family. There are many Afghans who refer to Hazrat (HA) as a Senior Shaykh similar to how you refer to Shaykh (Mufti) A. S. Desai (HA) but there is no Shaykh/Bay't relationship and Chilli and Adhkaar etc.

Mullah Omar (HA) since young age adhered to Qur'aan and Sunnah and neither had any formal training nor Ijazah in Naqshbandi Silsila although in addition to Hazrat Sibgathul-Mujaddidi (HA) there are still Mashaykh from this Silsila near Kandhar and well respected. So it is common in Afghan culture to be around mashaykh (like our culture) but there is no formal Bay't and then Sulook and then Ijaazah business.

Mullah Omar (HA) now has multiple Ijaazahs and we know the reality of almost all of them. Mullah Omar (HA) is not Anti-Tazkiyah or Anti-Tassawuff but he is more like Shaykh (Mufti) A.S. Desai (HA) in South Africa or Shaykh (Maulana) Yaqoob Kawi (HA) in UK.

I can also ask Hazrat Sibgathul-Mujaddidi (HA) directly when and if I see him...There is no need for me to be reading 3rd-4th hand accounts on Internet forums.

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