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#46 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2014 14:46
Oh teri@this thread.
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#47 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2014 14:46

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Things pan out this way because believers DO NOT know how to make Sul'h (reconciliation) between believers, rather they egg each other on and to try to defame and humiliate each other.

To reconcile is a commandment of Allah (SWT).

When fire rages it simply damages, it doesn’t see if the house of friend or foe is being turned to ash and tinder.

The issue is dead simple:

  1. Shaykh (Mufti) A. S. Desai (HA) is an Alim of Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat and thus deserves respect 

  2. Shaykh (Maulana) Ebrahim Bham (HA) is an Alim of Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat and thus deserves respect 

  3. Shaykh (Maulana) Tariq Jameel (HA) is an Alim of Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaat and thus deserves respect 

None of them are FAASIQ or FAAJIR but may have some opinions which one may disagree with. Here is the explicit example of Shaykh (Maulana) Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) about an Alim whom we explicitly and actually (pretty much unanimously) disagree with!

Shaykh (Maulana) Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) [1863-1943] respecting Ulama

Shaykh Ashraf Ali Thanwi (rahimahullah) and Shaykh Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi (rahimahullah) by Shaykh Muhammad Tayyib al-Qasimi (RA)

I have witnessed the fact that Shaykh Ashraf Ali Thanwi (rahimahullah) differed on numerous subjects from Shaykh Amad Raza Khan Barelwi (rahimahullah). Their differences covered the topics of Qiyaam, Urs, Meelad etc. But in spite of this, whenever his name happened to be mentioned in a Majlis (gathering), he used to say, "Moulana Ahmad Raza Khan Sahib."

On one occasion an individual sitting in the Majlis mentioned his name without adding the title Moulana to his name saying, "Ahmad Raza Khan." Shaykh Thanwi (rahimahullah) became angry and scolded him saying, "He is an Alim after all in spite of the fact that there are differences of opinion between us, you are disrespecting the position he has been granted. How can this be correct? Differences of opinion is another matter altogether. It is a seperate issue that he considers me to be upon error pertaining to certain issues. What is the meaning of such condescension, such disrespect for him?"

Shaykh Ashraf Ali Thanwi (rahimahullah) was among the Ahl-ul-ilm, the people of knowledge. If and when someone's name occurred he used to consider respect for that person to be necessary. Even if it was a person who bore absolute enmity towards him, he never allowed respect to leave his side.

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#48 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2014 15:12
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#49 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2014 15:40
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Agreed.

Now honestly and with Fear of Allah (SWT) in your heart justify calling (Maulana) Ibraheem Bham "Reverend" and "Maulana" Tariq Jameel chap!

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#50 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2014 15:43
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Mawlana Nanautwi and Mawlana Gangohi has clearly shown us how to act, behave, treat adversaries (with whom they had major differences). This should be enough for us. If we claim to be Deobandis then there is the practical example. Let us follow it instead of being hollow claimants of follow their Maslak - this would be an injustice against them!
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#51 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2014 15:45
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Leave it to Allah to carry his vedict and sentencing (forgiveness Insh'Allah) on the Day of Judgement, akhi.

May Allah bless all the Ulema who have a genuine concern for the Ummah and to guide them to right path, Ameen.
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#52 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2014 15:49
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Mawlana Nanautwi and Mawlana Gangohi has clearly shown us how to act, behave, treat adversaries (with whom they had major differences). This should be enough for us. If we claim to be Deobandis then there is the practical example. Let us follow it instead of being hollow claimants of follow their Maslak - this would be an injustice against them!


You have indirectly claimed that those who have used titles other than those allocated, are being hollow in following their maslak and that they have in justice!

Do you know what you've put yourself into? Although we all know what you mean, lets just hope you aren't targeted by anyone.
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#53 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2014 15:52
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Gosh! This thread turned out exactly how i didn't want it to :0
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#54 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2014 16:08
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One at a time :)
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#55 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2014 16:13
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Being a deobandi and following them doesnt not entail that you cannot follow the example of sahaaba and salf e saliheen in deeni matters. They adopted very harsh attitudes towards ahl e bidat and ahl e hawa.
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#56 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2014 16:18
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I have thus far stayed out of this discussion for obvious reasons.

Although your post was excellent, for some, You made one post (or one sentence) too many :)
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#57 [Permalink] Posted on 4th June 2014 17:06
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My analogy with electrocution has been proven correct (although that post got deleted). Firasat thing is working Alhamdulillaah.
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#58 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2014 18:16
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