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#61 [Permalink] Posted on 28th May 2014 17:46

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Hmmm.... We await this, but most probably it will be to late as is the usual response and the menace will have done the damage

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#62 [Permalink] Posted on 28th May 2014 17:51

It is unfortunate that he is acting both as a 'Sufi' as well as an Amil,many innocent people can be deceived.

It is further unfortunate that he associates his silsila with Hazrat Sufi Iqbal ra...and thus through him with Hazrat Shaikh ul Hadeeth ra.(It is doubtful though whether His Shaikh 'actually' granted him khilafat)....still for many people the names of our Akabir is enough evidence to trust him.

It leaves the matter with Uluma to act,as only their verdict can stop this Fitna from spreading...and can save the good name of our Akabir.

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#63 [Permalink] Posted on 28th May 2014 21:48

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This guy is a perfect charlatan taking the believers on the road of destruction.. Shaytaan has indeed taken him on a super ride..

There was a Mureeed / Khalifa of Hazrat Shaikh Bayazid Bustami رحمة الله عليه who gained overnight fame for his 'Miraculous feats'..

News spread that he had even surpassed his shaikh.. that he claimed his spiritual flights took him on Me'raj.. riding on a Burraq..
he had also stopped visiting his shaikh anymore.. ( he now thought of himself nothing less than Ghaus us Zaman)

Hazrat Bayazid Bustami رحمة الله عليه learnt the claims of his 'super' Mureed somehow and thought of paying him a visit..

when he reached there.. he did not rebuke the Mureed or make any adverse remark.. instead said.. ' when you are back from Me'raj.. just recite La hawla wa quwwata illbillahil Aliy''il Azeem..'

So when he returned from his hallowed flight.. he remembered the shaikh's advice and for the sake of it recited what was told..

At once he felt a jolt.. as if woken suddenly from a deep slumber.. and saw to his amazement that the Burraq he was riding was infact a pile of garbage.. and all around him were feces and stench of urine..!

He realized his folly at once.. that shaytan had decieved him big time.. and ran back to his Shaikh making Tauba..

This is how Shaytan plays with people.. deceives them into making Halal what Allah سبحانه وتعالى has made Haram.. fills them with Takabbur.. destroying both their duniya and Aakhirah..

Coming back to Noor Zaman.. his claims of being Shazli were refuted by a Maulana from sf..

Also.. why would any shaikh give Ijazah to this fellow who has "Fraud" written all over him.. in caps lock..
so its a whole bogus package of deception..

May Allah سبحانه وتعالى keep us all of safe from every Fitnah.. Ameen..

wa Assalam..

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#64 [Permalink] Posted on 28th May 2014 22:03

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I have heard his Bayans and have spoken to him (twice) and what got me is the brazen arrogance and disregard to Akabir of Tassawuff, in fact disdain to almost all of the current Akabir of Tassawuff.

I mentioned this matter to both Maulana (HA) and London786 specifically saying that I don't know Jack about Tassawuff but this guy is brazenly disdainful towards everybody else!

The entire Sililsa (Mureeds and Khulafah) alike laugh and joke about almost every Deobandi Sufi, I was very surprised that they leave Shaykh (Maulana) Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) alone otherwise like Owaisis and Maulana Allahyar Khan (RA) they may start saying that NOBODY in the last few hunderd years has reached their level!

I also mentioned this to both Maulana (HA) and London786 specifically that these guys are a lot like Akram Awan and Owaisi boys

They mock all Mashaykh and all Ulama bar none...

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#65 [Permalink] Posted on 28th May 2014 22:31

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what worries me most are those innocent people and sisters who fall prey to this devil..

One thing is for sure إن شاء الله .. such people who do not repent.. meet a very painful end..

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#66 [Permalink] Posted on 25th June 2014 04:09

As Salam alaykum

I watch this pir's talk today on Youtube with open mind. Believe you me, he speaks about Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanvi, Sheikh Gangohi and Akabir as if they are close to him.

But I found many red flags.

1) He makes funny face and giggles every 3 seconds

2) He looks like gunda or Nana Patekar

3) He speaks on difference between kahin/jaddugar and amil or Sufi. He says black magic happened in front of a Nabi Harun alayysalam and it couldn't break by him. But when Nabi Musa alayysalam came the jaddu broke because he had power of chilleh. But this is wrong because Musa made contact and spoke with Allah Ta'ala DIRECT.

I am trying to figure out difference between jaddugar and Sufi. But seeing brothers from Sunniforum on here I realize many people who I thought were learned don't know how to tell difference. The first post was right, the field is open and ulema are afraid on these people's jaddu.

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#67 [Permalink] Posted on 10th July 2014 16:25

Salam

It has come to my attention that the email address used by Maulana Taliban to contact potentials patients for treatment and misguidement etc has become active now again.

- We do not know if Maulana himself is back on it, his account might have been hacked or someone else might have access it to it too, his blog that he was using to write against his old peer has been dead for some time now as well

Anyway here is the email that has been doing the rounds from this shaytani team :

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Assalamualaikum wa rahamatullahi wa barakatuh,

Hope this email reaches with the best of health.

In Musnad Ahmad, Sahih Muslim, At-Tirmidhi and An-Nasa'i, it is recorded that Abu Hurayrah said that the Prophet said,
�لَا تَجْعَلُوا بُيُوتَكُمْ قُبُورًا فَإِنَّ الْبَيْتَ الَّذِي تُقْرَأُ فِيهِ سُورَةُ الْبَقَرَةِ لَا يَدْخُلُهُ الشَّيْطَان�

(Do not turn your houses into graves. Verily, Shaytan does not enter the house where Surat Al-Baqarah is recited.) At-Tirmidhi said, "Hasan Sahih."

Since most of the spiritual ailments such as evil eye, jinn possession, and black magic are satanic nature, keeping the shaytan away can also help both in treatment of such conditions and also as a preventive measure.

In another narration it is reported from `Abdullah bin Mas`ud said, "Shaytan flees from the house where Surat Al-Baqarah is heard.'' This Hadith was collected by An-Nasa'i in Al-Yawm wal-Laylah,

We the ilaajeroohani team have decided to run a campaign in which surah al baqarah will be recited. Al hamdullilah, many people are going to participate in this event. And your recitation can also be a big contribution towards this, as more people read surah baqarah the effects will get more powerful.

If you do take part in this, you shall receive the benefit of it. So if you do plan to recite surah al baqarah, then do the following things :

1) Start with durood 11 times awal and akhir
2) Make niyat that may Allah (subhana wa taala) give shifah to everyone through this
3) Reply back and tell us how many times do you plan to read surah al baqarah daily

This method is a very effective one and does works. And finally we shall conclude with this hadith :

The Messenger of Allah (sallahu allai wa salam) said : 'The supplication of a muslim for his brother in his absence will certainly be answered. Everything he makes a supplication for good for his brother, the angel appointed for this particular tasks says: 'Ameen!' May it be for you, too.'

JazakAllah Khair,
ilaajeroohani team

If you or anyone you know has recieved this email please ignore it and it to your block list, also certainly don't do the wazifa whatsoever.

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#68 [Permalink] Posted on 14th September 2014 22:43

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salam,
i registered just to post in this thread since SF is dead.

first let me mention, my relative has been in contact with one of noor zaman's students. no alarms have gone off yet (no skype video/no picture request/no random taweez/nothing which is not from quran).

i have highlighted the guest post above because he is right about the part where Ulema have to take action against noor zaman IF all that has been said is true. that's how we the general public can avoid being trapped (if it even exists). a few posts on an online forum from people sitting in UK or North America doesn't justify attacking a guy in Karachi.

also, since all of you are in agreement that Maulana Taliban aka Madni, is not to be trusted, then how are you trusting him and his blog posts over this matter? It's double standard, no? This point leads me to the Karachi ulema not taking any action... Why wouldn't they? Are we to believe this man has control over the likes of Mufti Taqi Usmani sahab and Mufti Naeem and many other great names?

please let me know if you know of any renowned local ulema (Karachi) that have issued fatwa against him. if not, on what basis do we believe what "ex-students" have to say? this case is sounding more and more like those students who run away from madrassas and accuse their teachers of nasty behavior..

i want to know the truth, not defending any party, just want to know the truth. until i don't see it from a local scholar (not some random question being answered by Mufti Ebrahim Desai sahab)...

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#69 [Permalink] Posted on 14th September 2014 23:26

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If a man stands in a street corner in Karachi and starts shouting do you want Shaykh (Mufti) Taqi Usmani (HA) to issue a Fatwa against it? The reason this issue was brought up was because it became known in the west due to SF so clarification was needed!

He is a NOBODY in Karachi!

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#70 [Permalink] Posted on 15th September 2014 00:41

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in this case, he's not a random guy on the street of Karachi. as you guys have pointed out, many people have fallen in his "trap", is it not the job of Karachi ulema to bring this guy to court? and no, he's not a "nobody", he has gained influence on many since his tv appearances. thousands flock to him, madni being one of the those.

again, respected brother, I ask, on what basis do we shun this noor zaman? Any solid evidence out there and not hearsay?

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#71 [Permalink] Posted on 15th September 2014 01:49

La hawla wa la quwwata illa billah.

It is terrible that sisters naively get into such trouble but when they bring other sisters who trust them into such a mess, one would hope others who are aware & working on the issues would have some respect & let them know. Instead, it seems those sisters who were equally naive in trusting other sisters in order to learn Qur'an are shunned & ridiculed. To add insult to injury, forum staff craftily interrogate to get some info & talk behind others in guise. Shame on the lot of you.

I accept the apology from Taliban & insha'Allah my Qur'an teacher is safe. I have changed my email since my Qur'an teacher had shared it with others unbeknownst to me.

There are a number of members and readers who owe apologies. I do hope you all come to your senses & offer your apologies.

May Allah Ta'aala protect us... Especially sisters... don't trust ANYONE online - not even other sisters (sad & difficult for those lacking close community).

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#72 [Permalink] Posted on 15th September 2014 02:42

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Please do read the whole thread properly and it'll hopefully clear up your misconceptions and give you solid evidence.

Thread is a warning that's all, other than that one can say that the whole Internet is heresay and you won't be far from being right either.

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#73 [Permalink] Posted on 15th September 2014 03:37

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I have read the whole thread, not sure which point you want me to read?

Everyone in this thread only posted their opinions/stories and stories from madni sahab. Others went on to point out noor zaman's facial characteristics and how he "giggles" every few seconds......

Again this thread is not clear enough.

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#74 [Permalink] Posted on 15th September 2014 09:47

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Only a fool would make such remarks, lol 'opinions and stories 'when many here know people individually who have been affected by this shaytans shataniayat under the guise of amaliyat.

I guess you've come here to support the khabeeth and create clouds of comfusion in support of him ? Since this thread is not clear enough for you lol

For fools nothing is clear, nothing new there.

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#75 [Permalink] Posted on 15th September 2014 10:01

salaam

aguyfromsf makes a fair point. anyone that did not know moulana taliban on some sort of level and had not experienced his 'silsilah' through him would not be convinced with the arguments against them. we can convince those who we have a connection with, but others will need facts. since so many alarm bells have been ringing in regards to noor zaman, and seeing as how he has affected so many people, then it is the responsibility of the ulama to do their research and pass judgment in order to save ummah from this fitnah.

as for moulana taliban, he may have apologised and cut himself off from noor zaman, but he is also a danger himself - especially around women it seems. i was in daily contact with him at one point and now that i think back, some of the things he did and said was very wrong and sometimes a danger to others. at the time i got sucked in by him due to his status and the respect i had for him - i kept on giving him the benefit of the doubt. but now i realise how stupid i had been.

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