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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2014 10:01
great thread...agree with the sentiments expressed by all.
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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2014 10:02
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Bro mashallah great to hear. paktun hospitatlity is great mashallah
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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2014 10:03
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Do it on a case by case basis. May ALLAH SWT bless you in your endevour and grant you abundent halal rizq.
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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2014 10:05

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So your community only has problems with Reverts but they have fantastic support for?

  1. Muslim families with financial issues
  2. Families with relationship problems
  3. Divorced, unmarried Sisters
  4. Single Parents
  5. Struggling Youth
  6. Excellent Islamic study Halaqahs and Dawah programs

All other (Non Revert) Muslims are fully supported, helped and assisted in everyway and community purposelly discriminates against Reverts?

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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2014 10:05
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Bro jinn your post has summurized the whole situation very well. When it comes to employers muslims are the worst. We need to hang our heads in shame. I am not talking of failing businesses or poor people but rich people.
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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2014 10:09
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bro muadh khan what can we say....our own (islamic countries) are in such a mess that everybody is day dreaming about a british/western passport. ALLAH have mercy upon us. At the same time I do wonder at such people who would send their daughters to the other side of the world for a passport.
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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2014 10:21
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AAWW Muadh have already answered your Q in previous post.

Jazakallahkhair

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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2014 10:22
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I apologize and seek your forgiveness because I haven't seen it.
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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2014 10:25
thats fine brother. i forgive you...
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#40 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2014 10:31
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bro daywalker I am very impressed with clapton mosque. They use collections on fridays at least once a month for local projects.....I mean this is a step in the right direction.
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#41 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2014 10:36
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alhumdulillah...their getting there (May Allah reward them immensely). Though the clapton community is quite sadly far behind even many basic masjids, that specific jumma collection issue i dont think ive come across at any deo/guji masjid...i mean dedicating 1 jummas collection per month for events/etc (btw far as i know its just 1 main talk per month for brothers and 1 for sisters they do...nothing in terms of classes, services etc) in guji/deo masjid is unheard of. im sure if it was suggested at any other the elderly Members of the masjids trust will go bonkers :-(

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#42 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2014 10:45
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Bro upton lane masjid is up and coming...they have some good stuff going on as well. A packed schedule mashallah. Hope some of the people will not take it down the modernist route otherwise I will have to start paying membership fees and run for president and go all guns blazing muadh khan style lol.
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#43 [Permalink] Posted on 4th April 2014 10:59
mashallah

molana khalil's doing good there. i think as long as the communities needs are being met (or trying to be met) inshallah should be a good thing...which doesnt necessarily have to be from within the masjids walls.

example. though i have my buckets full of issues wrt to the Quba/Cazenove Rd community... more or less next door to each other they have:

www.masjidequba.org.uk (classes, events etc)
www.nlmcc.org.uk (social needs)
www.nlmcc.org.uk/ihsan-nursery (full on sure start centre)
www.nlmha.com (looks after housing needs of local muslims...manages about nearly 700 properties)
www.tawhid.org.uk (starting out from using the Masjid in its first 1-2 years)
www.olivehackney.com (run from the masjid site at present)
www.nawaal.org (helps muslims in financial difficulties...and sometimes non-muslims too)
www.fostercarelink.com (muslims kids adoption)
Tayyibah Grils School

though not run by the community theres also two buildings close by that house mainly 90% muslim women and children suffering from domestic abuse/violence. run by www.refuge.org.uk..mostly all muslim women work there (including sisters from our community)

..of course plenty room for improvement (miles more!)
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#44 [Permalink] Posted on 5th April 2014 12:42
salaam

shoot me down all you want, but this is what i have experienced myself (in the UK) and many of my close family and friends will concur.

it seems that some deeni muslims, mainly those attached to sub group of muslims, e.g tablighis, sufis, ulama, students etc, only see deen to be in worshipping allah and carrying out the duties dictated by whichever group they are in. they hardly ever expand into serving allah through serving his creation and helping individuals who are in need. they will back charities and collect money, clothing, etc, but will hardly 'get their hands dirty' by helping a needy muslim (or even non muslim) directly.

it is as if they deem it to be beneath themselves to directly help a homeless person, or an old person, or a disabled person, or a struggling single mother etc. i have seen more of a zeal to serve the creation of allah from individuals who would not be regarded as particularly deeni. they may not be wearing the full sunnah, or have a full beard, they may not be in the masjid for every salaat, or seen finishing qurans after qurans in ramadhan.

not so long ago a masjid opened up near me. people were required to help in working on and cleaning the masjid prior to opening. most of the people that contributed their time and skills for free were those who you would not regard as deeni. in fact one of the plasterers who contributed his time and skills for free can usually be found in the local pub in the evenings. the other plasterers who look and act deeni did it to get paid.

sorry about the rant. yes i know this is not always the case, but i have seen and experienced some truth in this.

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