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Demise of Mawlana Zubayr (Nizamuddin)

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#31 [Permalink] Posted on 20th March 2014 09:19
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السلام عليكم

Brother with all due respect this is a condolences thread where people are paying their respect to someone who just passed away, so please take your gibberish elsewhere. Sorry to be blunt but show some respect.


If you want to debate your more than welcome to but please do so in the correct manner
-create an account first
-secondly make a thread
-on anything you wish and take it from there
-you can also quote the brothers that you wish to debate with on whatever technical point you wish
-please don't derail this thread

Thank you for reading.

جزاك الله خيرا


( can mods kindly delete all irrelevant posts or move them into another thread as some people sadly have no regards for the deceased )
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#32 [Permalink] Posted on 20th March 2014 09:48
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There is sickness in the world so what do we do blame the Doctors? Sack the Doctors or value good Doctors? You don't make any sense. The Ummah should value good Ulamah and their passing away does leave a void.
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#33 [Permalink] Posted on 20th March 2014 12:07
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Wsalam,

Condolences are done with the immediate family or relatives of the deceased. This trend on islamic forums is not very constructive IN MY OPINION. A trend can be noticed whenever an alim passes people qud come and say things like 'what a great loss' 'i wnt find anyone like him again' 'i wish I had met him' etc etc... and this goes on for days.

It seems like people r just killing time.

My question is 'how many people make dua in tahajjud ya Allah make me like him ' and then take practical steps to be like them.

Not bad speculation, justba question.
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#34 [Permalink] Posted on 20th March 2014 12:09
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With due respect, nothing was said to the respoected maulana who passed away. Nor was he blamed. Point is abt the posters here. How abt finishing one quran and esal e sawab for maulana?
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#35 [Permalink] Posted on 20th March 2014 12:18

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No, they are expressing their feelings and sentiments. Furthermore if they are making dua or passing the rewards of extra acts of worship an aspect of sincerity would be to keep it secretive.

An option would be to make it public to inform and encourage others.

I guess both ways are permissable.

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#36 [Permalink] Posted on 21st March 2014 04:10
EXPOSING A TRICKSTER


This user Darb ul Ubaah started meddling in this thread like this:

Darb ul Ubaah wrote:

Salamualaikum,

Brother, we need to get out this 'murdah parasti' .... it doesn't make much difference what hazrat did or didn't do. He will answer. Or get rewarded for his own deeds and we for ours.

Amal se zindagi banti hai jannat bhi jahannum bhi......

Get on with ur four months.

As for those who say its a big loss for the ummah, I dnt think so. I dnt think hazrats demise will have any great effect on the ummah. Bigger personalities hve left the world bfore him doesn't matter. Thousnands of biographies r thre for reading.

Amal amal amal... what others did or do dowsnt matter in ur grave.

Waste of time.

A better option to spend time is n seerah and hayat us sahaba.[/quote]

I replied:

Black Turban wrote:
Brother, can you show me a SINGLE quote from Quran/Hadith/scholars that it is okay to remain Jaahil?

Read this Hadith followed by your Jaahil statement:

Abu Darda رضي الله عنه narrates: I heard Rasulullah (saw) saying: The death of an 'Aalim is such a calamity that it can neither be made up nor compensated for; and he was a star (of guidance and due to his death) his light is lost. The death of a whole tribe is less significant than the death of an 'Aalim. (Baihaqi)

Darb ul Ubaah: As for those who say its a big loss for the ummah, I dnt think so. I dnt think hazrats demise will have any great effect on the ummah. Bigger personalities hve left the world bfore him doesn't matter. Thousnands of biographies r thre for reading.

NOW COMPARE !!!


His reply:

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Assalam alaikum,

If u insist on taking ahadith on face value id request u to translate this hadith plz and then fit it as u see fit.

من مات ولم يغزو ولم يحدث به نفسه مات علي شعبة من نفاق

You can take help of this ayat to better understand the above hadith.

ولو ارادوا الخروج لاعدوا له عدة ولكن كره اللع انبعاثهم فثبتهم وقيل اقعدوا مع القاعدين

جزاك الله خيرا


He posted a Hadith which says:

It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Hurairah رضي الله عنه that the Messenger of Allah (saw) said: One who died but did not fight in the way of Allaah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihaad died the death of a hypocrite. (Sahih Muslim, Book 20, Number 4694)

He also told me to take help of this verse to "better understand the above hadith":

وَلَوْ أَرَادُواْ الْخُرُوجَ لأَعَدُّواْ لَهُ عُدَّةً وَلَـكِن كَرِهَ اللّهُ انبِعَاثَهُمْ فَثَبَّطَهُمْ وَقِيلَ اقْعُدُواْ مَعَ الْقَاعِدِينَ (Surah Tawbah, verse no. 46)

Translation (from Sahih International):

And if they had intended to go forth, they would have prepared for it [some] preparation. But Allah disliked their being sent, so He kept them back, and they were told, "Remain [behind] with those who remain."

That verse was addressed to those hypocrites who were trying to avoid Jihaad and stayed behind.

Now what do these mean? What's the intention of this guy?
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#37 [Permalink] Posted on 21st March 2014 10:34
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#38 [Permalink] Posted on 21st March 2014 10:57
subhanallah a great loss for the Muslim ummah. The powerhouse of the tablighi jamaat. He once completed 60 Quraans in ramadan I think in 1965 as stated by shaykh ul hadeeth maulana zakariya rh. Very difficult to replace such a great shaykh. May ALLAH let us follow his example and give shaykh al firdaws.
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#39 [Permalink] Posted on 21st March 2014 14:05
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this is some bangladeshi hazrat... not Zubair Saheb RA
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