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#211 [Permalink] Posted on 18th March 2014 02:53
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Dear Brother,

I have posted name of books, I will repeat it once again

1. Musannaf of ibn Abi Sahaiba

2. Hilya by Abu Nu'aym .

3. al-`Azama by Ibn `Abbas by Abu al-Shaykh

4. Shu`ab by Imam Bayhaqi

5. al-zuhud by ibn Al-Mubarak


Apart from the famous Six Hadith books there are many hadith books.

In the first century the following books of had�th were compiled by the T�bi'�n:

1. Book of Khalid ibn Ma'dan (d. 104)

2. Books of Abu Qilabah (d. 104). He bequeathed his books to his pupil, Ayyub Saktiyan (68-131 A.H.), who paid more than ten dirhams as a fare for them being loaded on a camel.

3. The script of Hammam ibn Munabbih,

4. Books of Hasan al-Basri (21-110 A.H.)

5. Books of Muhammad al-Baqir (56-114 A.H.)

6. Books of Makhul from Syria

7. Book of Hakam ibn 'Utaibah

8. Book of Bukair ibn 'Abdullah ibn al-Ashajj (d. 117)

9. Book of Qais ibn Sa'd (d. 117). This book later belonged to Hammad ibn Salamah.

10. Book of Sulaiman al-Yashkuri

11. Al-Abw�b of Sha'bi, already referred to.

12. Books of Ibn Shih�b az-Zuhri

13. Book of Abul-'Aliyah

14. Book of Sa'id ibn Jubair (d. 95)

15. Books of 'Umar ibn 'Abdul Aziz (61-101 A.H.)

16. Books of Mujahid ibn Jabr (d. 103)

17. Book of Raja ibn Hywah (d. 112)

18. Book of Abu Bakr ibn Muhammad ibn 'Amr ibn Haq

19. Book of Bashir ibn Nahik.

A few prominent Books of Had�th Written in the Second Century

1. Book of 'Abdul Malik ibn Juraij (d. 150)

2. Muwatta of Malik ibn Anas (93-179)

3. Muwatta of Ibn Abi Zi'b (80-158)

4. Magh�zi of Muhammad ibn Ishaq (d. 151)

5. Musnad of Rabi' ibn Sabih (d. 160)

6. Book of Sa'id ibn Abi 'Arubah (d. 156)

7. Book of Hammad ibn Salmah (d. 167)

8. Jami' Sufyan ath-Thauri (97-161)

9. Jami' Ma'mar ibn Rashid (95-153)

10. Book of 'Abdur-Rahman al-Awz�'I (88-157)

11. Kit�b az-Zuhd by 'Abdull�h ibn al-Mub�rak (118-181)

12. Book of Hushaim ibn Bashir (104-183)

13. Book of Jarir ibn 'Abdul-Hamid (110-188)

14. Book of 'Abdull�h ibn Wahb (125-197)

15. Book of Yahya ibn Abi Kath�r (d. 129)

16. Book of Muhammad ibn Suqah (d. 135)

17. Tafs�r of Zaid ibn Aslam (d. 136)

18. Book of Musa ibn 'Uqbah (d. 141)

19. Book of Ash'ath ibn 'Abdul-Malik (d. 142)

20. Book of Aqil ibn Khalid (d. 142)

21. Book of Yahya ibn Sa'id Ansari (d. 143)

22. Book of Awf ibn Abi Jamilah (d. 146)

23. Books of Jafar ibn Muhammad al-Sadiq (d. 148)

24. Books of Yunus ibn Yazid (d. 152)

25. Book of 'Abdur-Rahman al-Mas'udi (d. 160)

26. Books of Zaidah ibn Qudamah (d. 161)

27. Books of Ibrahim al-Tahman (d. 163)

28. Books of Abu Hamzah al-Sukri (d. 167)

29. Al-Ghar�ib by Shu'bah ibn al-Hajjaj (d. 160)

30. Books of 'Abdul-Aziz ibn 'Abdull�h al-Majishun (d. 164)

31. Books of 'Abdull�h ibn 'Abdull�h ibn Abi Uwais (d. 169)

32. Books of Sulaiman ibn Bilal (d. 172)

33. Books of 'Abdull�h ibn Lahi'ah (d. 147)

34. Jami' Sufyan ibn 'Uyainah (d. 198)

35. Kit�b-ul-�th�r by Im�m Abu Han�fah (d. 150)

36. Magh�zi of Mu'tamir ibn Sulaiman (d. 187)

37. Musannaf of Waki' ibn Jarrah (d. 196)

38. Musannaf of 'Abdur-Razz�q ibn Hammam (136-221)

39. Musnad of Zaid ibn 'Ali (76-122)

40. Books of Im�m Sh�fi'i (150-204)

The following books written in this age are still available in printed form:

1. Al-Muwatta by Im�m M�lik.

2. Kit�b-ul-�th�r by Im�m Abu Han�fah.

3. Musannaf by 'Abdur-Razz�q. This book has been published in eleven big volumes.

4. As-S�rah by Muhammad ibn Ishaq.

5. Kit�b az-Zuhd by 'Abdull�h ibn al-Mub�rak.

6. Kit�b az-Zuhd by Waki' ibn Jarr�h (3 volumes).

7. Al-Musnad by Zaid ibn 'Ali (76-122).

8. Sunan of Im�m Sh�fi'i.

9. Musnad of Sh�fi'i.

10. Siyar of Awz�'i (88-157).

11. Musnad of 'Abdull�h ibn al-Mub�rak.

12. Musnad of Abu D�w�d Tayalisi (d. 204).

13. Ar-Radd 'ala Siyaril-Awz�'i by Im�m Abu Y�suf.

14. Al-Hujjah 'ala Ahlil-Mad�nah by Im�m Muhammad ibn Hasan Shaib�ni.

15. Kit�bul-Umm by Im�m Sh�fi'i.

16. Al-Magh�zi by Waqidi (130-206) (4 volumes).


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Jazak'Allah brother.

I'll study the source and narrations provided carefully.
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#213 [Permalink] Posted on 17th June 2014 09:07
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السلام عليكم

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An Analysis of the Hadīth "To Ponder for a Moment is Greater Than Sixty Years of Worship"

By Muntasir Zaman



In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.



[Summary: It is from the speech of al-Sarī ibn al-Mughallis al-Saqatī [d. approx. 250 AH][1]. A similar narration is recorded from Hasan al-Basrī, Ibn 'Abbās and Abū al-Dardā' (Allah be pleased with them). In any case, this is not a Hadīth of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him). For an explanation of "to ponder" refer to the end of this answer. In addition, we have added a brief description of al-Sarī al-Saqatī in the end]

The Hadīth in reference is recorded by Abū al-Shaykh ibn Hayyān [d. 369 AH] in his book, al-'Ażama, as follows:masjid_terapung

عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ، قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: فِكْرَةُ سَاعَةٍ خَيْرٌ مِنْ عِبَادَةِ سِتِّينَ سَنَةً

It is reported on the authority of Abū Hurayra (Allah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said, "To ponder for a moment is greater than sixty years of worship"[2]

Hereunder are remarks of the scholar of Hadīth regarding this narration.

Abu 'l-Faraj ibn al-Jawzī [d. 597 AH] in his book, al-Mawdū'āt comments:

"To ponder for a moment is greater than sixty years of worship"- This Hadīth is a not authentic (i.e. a fabrication). In the Sanad (chain of transmitters) there are two liars.[3]


It will be beneficial to point out that in books of Mawdū'āt (fabricated Ahādīth) and biographical accounts of weak transmitters, expressions such as "this is not authentic"(Lā Yasihhu) refers to "this is a fabrication" and not a negation of authentic (Sahīh) in the technical term. Conversely, in books of Ahādīth on legal injunctions (Ahādīth al-Ahkām) it refers to "it is not authentic" in the technical term i.e. not Sahīh and, therefore, it can be Hasan (sound) or Da'īf (weak). Accordingly, the statement of Ibn al-Jawzī "not authentic" means that the report is a fabrication. [For more details on this principle, refer to the Prologue to al-Masnū' of Mullā 'Alī al-Qārī by Shaykh 'Abd al-Fattāh Abū Ghuddah pp. 27]


Hāfiż Zayn al-Dīn al-'Irāqī [d. 806 AH] writes:

The Hadīth "To ponder for a moment is greater than the worship of one year" is related by Ibn Hayyān on the authority of Abū Hurayra (Allah be pleased with him) with the words "Sixty years" via a weak chain, and Ibn al-Jawzī also records it through the same chain.

Abū Mansūr al-Daylamī relates it on the authority of Anas (Allah be pleased with him) with the words "eighty years," and its chain is extremely weak.

Abū al-Shaykh [ibn Hayyān] also narrates it as a statement of Ibn 'Abbās (Allah be pleased with him) with the words "greater than the worship of one night" [4]



It should not come as a surprise that Hāfiż al-'Irāqī merely classified the narration as weak and not a fabrication, because he seldom classifies any narration as a fabrication. In this respect, Shaykh Ahmad al-Ghumārī [d. 1961 CE] writes:

Al-Hāfiż [ibn Hajar] and his teacher, al-'Irāqī, are lenient when grading Hadīth. They seldom explicitly classify a Hadīth as Mawdū' (fabrication) except when it is clear as broad daylight. [5]


Furthermore, Mawlāna Yūnus Sahāranpūrī writes:

After examining his works, I have learnt that al-'Irāqī abstains from passing a judgment of forgery, and that is why he graded this Hadīth as weak.[6]

After citing the report of Abu al-Shaykh mentioned above, 'Allamah al-Suyuti [d. 911 AH] writes:


In his grading of the Ahādīth of al-'Ihyā', al-'Irāqī only classified this narration as weak. In addition, there is a corroborating report for it, which al-Daylamī relates on the authority of Sa'īd ibn Maysara who says: I heard Anas (Allah be pleased with him) say: To ponder over the alternating of the day and night for one moment is greater than the worship of one thousand years.

Abu al-Shaykh mentions that 'Amr ibn Qays said, "It has reached me that pondering is greater than actions of a lengthy period of time.[7]

In this excerpt, al-Suyūtī attempts to consolidate this narration by citing a corroborating report from Anas (Allah be pleased with him). However, this report itself is a fabrication and, therefore, it cannot be used as such. After mentioning that the above narration of Ibn Hayyān is a fabrication, Shaykh 'Abd al-Fattāh Abū Ghuddah [d. 1997 CE] writes:


In al-La'ālī al-Masnū'a al-Suyūtī claims that there is a corroborating report for this Hadīth. He pretends to be unaware or is unaware that in the corroborating report that he cites there are also two liars. The first is Sa'īd ibn Maysara al-Bakrī al-Basrī. Yahyā al-Qattān labelled him a liar, al-Bukhārī said regarding him, "Munkar al-Hadīth" i.e. it is impermissible to narrate from him, and Ibn Hibbān said, "He narrates fabrications." The second is 'Alī ibn Ibrāhīm al-Qazwīnī: he is responsible for producing a forged narration, as we learn from his biographical entry in Lisān al-Mizān of Ibn Hajar. Furthermore, in this chain there are some unknown narrators.


Thus, the corroborating report, which al-Suyūtī cites to consolidate this report, contains these calamities (al-Balāyā'), so how can it be regarded as a corroborating report? May Allah forgive Hāfiż al-Suyūtī for his extreme leniency in consolidating fabrications with fabrications.[8]


Mullā 'Alī al-Qārī [d. 1015 AH] writes:

The Hadīth "To ponder for a moment is greater than the worship of one year" this is not a Hadīth; it is from the speech of al-Sarī al-Saqatī [9]


'Allāmah Ismā'īl al-'Ajlūnī [d. 1162 AH] writes:

"To ponder for a moment is greater than the worship of one year" and in one wording "sixty years." Al-Fākihānī mentions it with the words, "Fikru Sā'ah" [i.e. instead of "Tafakkuru Sā'ah"] and says that it is the statement of al-Sarī al-Saqatī. In one variation it comes as "Sixty years." He [al-Suyūtī] mentions it in al-Jāmi' al-Saghīr as, "To ponder (Fikra) for a moment is greater than the worship of sixty years." It is recorded from Ibn 'Abbās and Abū al-Dardā (Allah be pleased with them) with the (same) words "To ponder for a moment is greater than the worship of sixty years..."[10]

Both Mullā 'Alī al-Qārī and al-'Ajlūni clearly state that this is the statement of al-Sarī al-Saqatī, and al-'Ajlūnī further notes that a similar narration is reported from Ibn 'Abbās and Abū al-Dardā'. As for the narration of Ibn 'Abbās, it is related by Ibn Hayyān with the words "To ponder for a moment is greater than worshiping for one night."[11] The narration of Abu al-Dardā' is recorded by Ibn Sa'd in al-Tabaqāt [12]and by Imām Ahmad in al-Zuhd[13] with the same wording.



Imām Ahmad [d. 241 AH] has recorded a similar report from Hasan al-Basrī [d. 110 AH] as follows, "To ponder for a moment is greater the worship of an entire night."[14]

It is possible that because this statement has been recorded from several of the pious predecessors 'Allāmah Abu 'l-Mahāsin al-Qāwuqjī [d. 1305 AH] wrote a general answer, instead of ascribing the statement to a particular person. He writes:

The Hadith "To ponder for a moment is greater than the worship of one year" is from the speech of the predecessors (al-Salaf).[15]



In view of the above discussion, we learn that this is actually the statement of al-Sarī ibn al-Mughallis al-Saqatī. Moreover, al-'Ajlūnī mentions that it is also recorded from Ibn 'Abbās and Abu al-Dardā'(Allah be pleased with him), and Imām Ahmad has recorded it from Hasan al-Basrī. Since this statement has been recorded from several predecessors with varying words, 'Allāmah al-Qāwuaqjī simply said that it was from the speech of the Salaf without specifying a particular person.


Nevertheless, it is quite evident that these are not the words of the Messenger of Allah, but from the speech of our pious predecessors. However, the virtues of pondering over the creation of Allah are innumerable, so even though this particular statement is not a Hadīth, the meaning is valid to a certain degree.

It will be beneficial to point out that there are several possibilities as to what "To ponder" can mean. A general description of pondering is given by Abū 'Alī al-Rūdhabārī [d. 322 AH] who writes:

Pondering (al-Tafakkur) is of four categories: pondering over

The signs of Allah. An indication of this is an increase of love (for Allah)

The rewards of Allah. An indication of this is a longing in the heart

The punishment of Allah. An indication of this is the presence of fear in the heart

The nothingness of the self in view of the favors of Allah. An indication of this is the presence of shamefulness from (breaking the injunctions of) Allāh[16]

However, the meaning of "To ponder" in the particular context of this statement can refer to pondering over the greatness of Allah in his creation, as we learn from the title of the chapter in which Ibn Hayyān cites this report [i.e. Chapter: the virtues of pondering over the greatness of Allāh].[17] It can also refer to pondering over one's shortcomings, the punishment and rewards of Allah, and the terrifying conditions of the hereafter, as 'Allāmah 'Abd al-Ra'ūf al-Munāwī explains [d.1031 AH]. [18]


A brief description of al-Sarī al-Saqatī

'Allāmah al-Dhahabī [d. 748 AH] describes him as follows:

Al-Sarī ibn al-Mughallis al-Saqatī, the authority, leader and Shaykh al-Islām, Abu 'l-Hasan al-Baghdādī. He was born around the year 160 AH. He narrated Hadīth from al-Fudayl ibn al-'Iyādh, Hushaym ibn Bashīr...et al. He was engaged in worship. He accompanied Ma'rūf al-Karkhī and was his most prominent disciple. Those who narrate from him are al-Junayd ibn Muhammad, al-Nūrī Abu 'l-Hasan...


Abū Bakr al-Harbī mentions, "I heard al-Sarī say, 'I praised Allah once, but I am seeking forgiveness from that praise for thirty years.' He was asked, 'Why is that?' he replied, 'I owned a shop in the bazaar and one day the bazaar caught fire. Thereafter, a person came to me and reassured me, 'Glad tidings, your store was saved from the fire.' Hearing this I proclaimed, 'All praise is due to Allah. Then I thought for a moment, and realized that it was incorrect.'...

He passed away in the month of Ramadān 253 AH, and it is said 251 AH or 257 AH.[19]



And Allah Knows Best

Muntasir Zaman



[2] العظمة لأبي الشيخ الأصبهاني (1/ 299)

حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ زَكَرِيَّا، حَدَّثَنَا عُثْمَانُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ الْقُرَشِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ نَجِيحٍ الْمَلَطِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا عَطَاءٌ الْخُرَاسَانِيُّ [ص:300]، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ، قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: �فِكْرَةُ سَاعَةٍ خَيْرٌ مِنْ عِبَادَةِ سِتِّينَ سَنَةً�

[3] الموضوعات لابن الجوزي (3/ 144)

عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: " فِكْرَةُ سَاعَةٍ خَيْرٌ مِنْ عُبَادَةِ سِتِّينِ سَنَةً ".هَذَا حَدِيث لَا يَصح وَفِي الْإِسْنَاد كذابان

[4] المغني عن حمل الاسفار (المطبوع في هامش احياء علوم الدين دار المعرفة) حديث تفكر ساعة خير من عبادة سنة أخرجه ابن حبان في كتاب العظمة من حديث أبى هريرة بلفظ ستين سنة بإسناد ضعيف ومن طريقه ابن الجوزى في الموضوعات ورواه أبو منصور الديلمى في مسند الفردوس من حديث أنس بلفظ ثمانين سنة وإسناده ضعيف جدا ورواه أبو الشيخ من قول ابن عباس بلفظ خير من قيام ليلة

[5] المغير على الأحاديث الموضوعة في الجامع الصغير دار المشاريع ص 56

[6] اليواقيت الغالية 47/1

[7] اللآلىء المصنوعة في الأحاديث الموضوعة (2/ 276)

(قُلْتُ) اقْتصر الْعِرَاقِيّ فِي تَخْرِيج أَحَادِيث الْإِحْيَاء عَلَى تَضْعِيفه وَلَهُ شَاهد قَالَ الدَّيلميّ أَنْبَأَنَا أَحْمَد بْن نصر أَنْبَأَنَا طَاهِر بْن مِلَّة حَدَّثَنَا صَالح بْن أَحْمَد حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيّ بْن إِبْرَاهِيم القَزْوينيّ حَدَّثَنَا إِبْرَاهِيم بْن إِسْحَاق النَّيْسابوريّ حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّد بْن جَعْفَر الودكاني حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيد بْن مَيْسَرَة سَمِعْتُ أَنَسَ بْنَ مَالِكٍ يَقُولُ: تَفَكُّرُ سَاعَةٍ فِي اخْتِلافِ اللَّيْلِ وَالنَّهَارِ خَيْرٌ مِنْ عِبَادَةِ أَلْفِ سَنَةٍ وقَالَ أَبُو الشَّيْخ فِي العظمة حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّد بْن يَحْيَى المَرْوَزِيّ حَدَّثَنَا إِسْحَاق بْن الْمُنْذر حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْن المتَوَكل أَبُو عقيل عَنْ عَمْرو بْن قيس الْملَائي قَالَ بَلغنِي أَن: تفكر سَاعَة خير منْ عمل دهر مِنَ الدَّهْر وَالله أعلم

[8] لمحات من تاريخ السنة وعلوم الحديث ص 90

[9] المصنوع في معرفة الحديث الموضوع (ص: 82)

حَدِيثُ تَفَكُّرُ سَاعَةٍ خَيْرٌ مِنْ عِبَادَةِ سَنَةٍ لَيْسَ بِحَدِيثٍ إِنَّمَا هُوَ مِنْ كَلامِ السُّرِّيِّ السَّقَطِيِّ رَحِمَهُ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى

[10] كشف الخفاء ت هنداوي (1/ 357)

تفكر ساعة خير من عبادة سنة -وفي لفظ: ستين سنة ذكره الفاكهاني بلفظ: فكر ساعة، وقال: إنه من كلام سري السقطي، وفي لفظ: ستين سنة، وذكره في الجامع الصغير بلفظ: فكرة ساعة خير من عبادة ستين سنة، وورد عن ابن عباس وأبي الدرداء بلفظ: فكرة ساعة خير من عبادة ستين سنة

[11] العظمة لأبي الشيخ الأصبهاني (1/ 298)

حدثنا جعفر بن عبد الله بن الصباح ، حدثنا محمد بن حاتم المؤدب ، حدثنا عمار بن محمد ، عن ليث ، عن سعيد بن جبير ، عن ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما ، قال : � تفكر ساعة خير من قيام ليلة �

[12] الطبقات الكبرى ابن سعد (6/ 208)

أخبرنا أبو معاوية الضرير قال حدثنا الأعمش عن عمرو بن مرة عن سالم بن أبي الجعد عن أم الدرداء عن أبي الدرداء قال تفكر ساعة خير من قيام ليلة أخبرنا

[13] الزهد لأحمد بن حنبل (ص: 114)

حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ، حَدَّثَنِي أَبِي، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو مُعَاوِيَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا الْأَعْمَشُ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ مُرَّةَ، عَنْ سَالِمِ بْنِ أَبِي الْجَعْدِ، عَنْ أُمِّ الدَّرْدَاءِ، عَنْ أَبِي الدَّرْدَاءِ قَالَ: تَفَكُّرُ سَاعَةٍ خَيْرٌ مِنْ قِيَامِ لَيْلَةٍ "

[14] الزهد لأحمد بن حنبل (ص: 220)

حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبِي، حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ فُضَيْلٍ، عَنِ الْعَلَاءِ بْنِ الْمُسَيَّبِ، عَنِ الْحَسَنِ قَالَ: �تَفَكُّرُ سَاعَةٍ خَيْرٌ مِنْ قِيَامِ لَيْلَةٍ�

[15] اللؤلؤ المرصوع دار البشائر الإسلامية ص 66 " حديث تفكر ساعة خير من عبادة سنة " من كلام السلف .اهـ

[16] طبقات الشافعية الكبرى للسبكي (3/ 52)

[17] العظمة لأبي الشيخ الأصبهاني (1/ 297) مَا ذُكِرَ مِنَ الْفَضْلِ فِي الْمُتَفَكِّرِ فِي ذَلِكَ (أي عظمة الله)

[18] فيض القدير (دار الكتب العلمية) 583/4

(فكرة ساعة) أي صرف الذهن لحظة من العبد في تدبير تقصيره وتفريطه في حقوق الحق ووعده وعيده وحضوره بين يديه ومحاسبته له ووزن أعماله وخوف خسرانه وجوازه على الصراط وشدة وحدته وغير ذلك من أهوال القيامة

[19] ملخص من سير اعلام النبلاء (مؤسسة الرسالة) 187/12


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#214 [Permalink] Posted on 17th June 2014 20:58
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Jazak'Allah for this.

I hope the full time Tablighis are at least briefed on such matters and not to use fabricated narrations. I've heard this narration from many.

May Allah protect us, Ameen.
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#215 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2014 10:08

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When you go for 4 months in Raiwind there is Muzakarah (discussion) on what to say which also highlights some fabricated narrations and stories which are currently doing the rounds. The book Muntakhab Ahadeeth: Selection of Ahadith Relating to the Six Qualities of Da'wat and Tabligh contains Authentic narrations on all six points.

Its the Indian/Pakistani culture which makes people ignore Authentic Ahadeeth and narrate stories...

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#216 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2014 11:10
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Jazak'Allah, akhi.

Allah reward the satees (if that's how you spell it) as their intention is sincere.
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#217 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2014 11:16
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In our day we used to have regular Muzakarahs with Ulama and they used to pinpoint what is weak (fabricated) etc and what to actually say. This was before the book was published.

Also in our day if we went to a Masjid and there was a Scholar giving a talk then our activities were suspended and we joined a program.

Now I see all sorts of stuff like I clearly see Tableeghees NOT joining Tal'eem in the Masjid done by the Imam but do their own Tal'eem at a different time.
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#218 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2014 11:26
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Asalamualaikum respected brother.

There have been times after the adabe gasht or the bian after the salah, I've asked for the sources from which, these narrations are quoted from. Some of them have got a little twitchy and insisted daleel is not important, and if they've heard it from an Ulema then it's sufficient to accept and tell to others. These are satees who done 4 months many times and from all parts of the world.

This is the reason now when I attend the gasht programs, I refuse to do adabe gasht, bian, and be the mutah khalim if I'm selected to go out. You're almost expected to mention some of these narrations given any of the 3 positions. I also keep quiet from commenting on any narrations which, are either definitely fabricated or weak out of respect for the elders.
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#219 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2014 11:42
I am an Asaaghir, a layperson. I would get appointed to give a little talk after Salaah on how we could bring the quran and sunnah into our lives.

I found it shocking that any Tom, Desi and Harry would be asked to speak in front of a crowd. I left the work which has plenty of benefits if done correctly.
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#220 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2014 12:27
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Not Qur'aan and Sunnah (exactly) but "Islam" and it is an obligation upon everyone and there is no reason to get phased by it. You can merely say "Worship" Allah (SWT).

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#221 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2014 12:52
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Why are non-Alims allowed to lecture ?

Some ask : Why do non-alims lecture in the presence of Alims ? This lecturing by non-alims is done within the permitted syllabus of 6 points. Many non-Ulema are able to express the concern for Deen in a very impressive style. To give advice, to encourage what is good, to call towards the truth, to instruct others from moving away from harm, to save someone's Imaan, to protect someone's Imaan, to save the blind from falling into the well, to admonish someone, to advise someone of an impending harm is not only the work of the Ambiya alaihi salam and the Ulema.

Do we not see in the story of Hadhrat Moosa alaihi salam that a man came from the furthest end of the town to warn Moosa alaihi salam of danger. The verse states :

A man came running from the furthest end of the town saying,'O Moosa! Verily the ministers are discussing the need to execute you, (so leave (the city for your own safety). I am certainly a good counsellor to you'. Surah Qasas,Verse 20.

Another verse says :


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And there came from the farthest end of the city a man, running. He said, "O my people, follow the messengers.
Surah Yaseen, Verse 20

In Islaam, the junior in rank can advise the senior. There is no flaw, defect or inferiority in this. In Mi'raaj Moosa alaihi salaam advised Nabi (saw) concerning Salah (Bukhari-Kitaabus Salah, hadith 349).

In Madinah, Salman Farsi رضي الله عنه advised Nabi (saw) to dig the trench (Fat'hul Baari Vol 7.pg314)

We can observe that generally the speakers of Tabligh Jamaat, even their Ulema, do not dwell in 'Masala Mas'ail' (rules and regulations) on jurisprudence but keep to the path of inviting towards good.


Taken from 'Tabligh Made Easy by Mufti Afzal Hoosen Elias'.
If any of the above does not make sense to you or anyone else then I won't make the mistake of others in interpreting their words. But you can contact them yourself here : www.alislam.co.za/



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#222 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2014 13:43
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Masha Allah.. and there are other two benefits in this case ( ie, a senior listening)

1. He can correct the Junior if and when he narrates fabricated stuff.

2. Indeed a part of Islah for a senior.. that he has to keep his 'Buzurgi' and 'Purana saathi' (old timer) attitude aside and listen.. a good remedy for Ujub..

wa Assalam..
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#223 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2014 19:50
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Plz clarify what wrong is in adab e gasht.
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#224 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2014 19:52
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Very true
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#225 [Permalink] Posted on 18th June 2014 20:05
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Layman isnt allowed to narrate Quranic ayat or ahadis rather he is instructed to speak within 6 no. in a very simple way. Even if he narrates hadis then he should say that ''I've heard a hadis from elders which purports'' and then he should say it in Urdu only.
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