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#91 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2014 13:40

Searched for the narration (on concern for a moment is better than ibadah for 60 years etc.) while still waiting for the Mufti's response.

The search pulled up names of muhaddiths and one of the sources that were referenced for the variating narrations was, Iraqi in Takhrijul Ihya.
It mentions another narration with the wording: ...is better than 80 years.

Those narrations are said to have weaknesses, so there's restrictions with regards to masa'il (unless clarified by ulama) but I've heard ulama use them for fadha'il (virtues) and encouragement, which is permissible.

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#92 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2014 21:12

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Likewise, although, personally speaking, I feel more comfortable knowing what I'm doing and/or believing is backed up by some historical source.

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#93 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2014 21:13

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Asalamualaikum brother,

Can you quote the entire narration?

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#94 [Permalink] Posted on 11th March 2014 21:14

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I know 2 brothers on HCY who can help me with the isnads.

Jazak'Allah akhi, I make every intention.

Can you at least quote me the narrations or where I can find all the ones you mentioned in your first response?

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#95 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2014 01:11

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Believe me, you won't get far by analyzing the asaneed of these Ahadith. I doubt if the persons there will be able to help either. It's a matter beyond most people's expertise. Trust me, save yourself the headache...

Go to this link:

www.islamibayanaat.com/MuntakhabAhadith.htm

I'll give you the chapter and Hadith number so that you can see the Ahadith for yourself.

Towards the end of the book, in the chapter of Da'wah and Tabligh - Virtues of Allah's Path:

Hadith# 78, 68, 61, 72 and 83

In the first chapter, Kalimah Tayyibah - Iman

Hadith # 14

Last narration is from Hayatus Sahabah, Vol. 1 page, 481-482 South African edition (by Mufti Afzal Husein Ilyas).

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#96 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2014 01:17

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The little that I got from searching:

1 - تفكر ساعة خير من عبادة ستين سنة .
الراوي: أبو هريرة المحدث: العراقي - المصدر: تخريج الإحياء - الصفحة أو الرقم: 5/161
خلاصة حكم المحدث: إسناده ضعيف وبلفظ: ثمانين سنة وإسناده ضعيف جدا

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#97 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2014 01:57

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(At the link^)
Curse be upon Shi'ite kuffar!

Brother New_Muslim, I was expecting you on MS. You can stay here because female members are very few in number and administration is much better than SF.

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#98 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2014 02:21

Please don't get me wrong- all these comparisons among efforts of Deen drain me. I planned long time back to consult some 'Ulama to prepare a manuscript which would represent the style of efforts of Sahabah رضي الله عنهم comprehensively so that readers could imagine a bigger picture of Deen and its development.

This thread is pushing me to start my work. InshaAllaah I'll consult principal of our Madrasah today.

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#99 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2014 08:31

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Hayatus Sahaba written by Ml. Yusuf Kandhalvi Saheb RAH

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..Allah's friends were consistent in Tahajudd and Quran Tilawat..

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#100 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2014 09:57

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2) Saying one salah in the path of Allah is multiplied by 7.5 million? They're very clear how it even topples the amount of reward you get for saying a salah in one of the 3 major Masjids. [/quote]

At Targheeb wa' At Tarheeb ( Urdu- Al Basheeru wa'an Nazeeru) (P:532)

Hazrat Sahl Bin Muadh رضي الله عنه narrates that Rasulullah said that without doubt the reward for Salah.. Siyam (Fasting) and Zikr in the path of Allah is multiplied Seven Hundred times than spending wealth in the path of Allah. ( Abu Dawood)

[quote="Imam Ali"]4) Any du'a you make in the path of Allah is guaranteed to be accepted even more so if one was making du'a in Al-Haram or Al Nabwi?

P:534

Hazrat Ibn Umar رضي الله عنه narrates a saying of Rasulullah that striving in the path of Allah.. Haji.. and one who performs Umrah are amongst the delegations of Allah, whatever dua they make are accepted. (Ibn Majah, Sahih Ibn Habaan, Bahiqi,Nisai, Sahih Ibn Khuzaimah)

Shall attend to the remaining two questions when i find the Info إن شاء الله ..

duas..

wa Assalam..

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#101 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2014 10:57

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salaam

where are these quotes and translations from?

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#102 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2014 11:31

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wa Alaikum Assalam w.w.

From the book At Targheeb Wa'Tarheeb by Hazrat Hafiz Zakiuddin Abdul Azeem Bin Abdul Qawi Al Munziri رحمة الله عليه (died 606 H) Translated into urdu as Al Basheeru wan Nazeeru by Hazrat Maulana Muhammed Usman sahab Madani db..

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#103 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2014 11:37

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I found something similar listed among fabricated hadiths in Post 4...

32 - One Hour of Contemplation is better than Sixty years of Worship. Fabricated; "Tanzeeh Al-Sharee'a" (2/305), "Al-Fawaid Al-Majmoo'a" (723), and "Tarteeb Al-Mawdoo'at" (964)

www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?52912-Commonly-na...

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#104 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2014 12:50

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Yes, from what I read, the varrying narrations go from weak, very weak, fabrications to just a saying of the salaf.

The conclusion is merely speculative on my part as I haven't got the final say from the Mufti...

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#105 [Permalink] Posted on 12th March 2014 13:12

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isnt the second narration specifically for jihad, as the arabic states 'ghazi fee sabilillah'?

as far as i know ghazi means warrior or fighter and is only used for a person who is actually physically fighting. or can ghazi be also used for someone who is not fighting, but 'struggling' or 'striving'?

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