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#61 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 19:51

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Alhamdulillah I found nothing wrong with me..jazakAllah khair for your suggestion.

Why hide behind as a guest?

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#62 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 20:21

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Why do you wish bad for him? After what happened on Maulana Sa'ad's thread, instead of guiding him to senior ulamah's you bring him here?

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#63 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 21:10

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The Ulema who he has been to have not been able to answer him, in fact I believe they have furthered the doubts.

Bro Sulaiman has provided a good reply and that's exactly what I was hoping for.

It's a pity that you haven't been of any help and to see such appalling behaviour from an old TJ worker like yourself.

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#64 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 21:49

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Asalamualaikum,

I will indeed remember you in my du'as.

I'm here to merely ask knowledgeable brothers to quote sources for the above mentioned narrations. I'm not sure why'd you have a gripe with that considering Qu'ran permits and encourages us too. I have no underlying or ulterior motive to undermine the concept and the work of Tableeghi Jamat. I also take part on the small expeditions every weekends namely, Gasht.

I do, however, agree with brother london786 and each to their own. Ultimately, Allah knows best.

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#65 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 21:49

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Jazak'Allah for the kind words, akhi. I appreciate it.

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#66 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 21:50

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He didn't wish bad upon me.

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#67 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 21:53

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Asalamualaikum brother,

Can you quote the actual Hadith where Tafakur is better than a 1000 years of optional worship?

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#68 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 21:57

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what I meant was why are you guiding him to people who will comment on ulamahs opinions without even knowing the language they speak let alone having any knowledge of the deen? I have not been of any help due to this and this is why I'm not updating some important threads of past and the reason for my appalling behaviour.

wallahi I'm not an old tj worker.

do make duas for me bro may I become a bootlicker of some senior ahlul Huqq Maulana then I can be of some benefit and set right my appalling behaviour.

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#69 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 21:59

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It'd be much easier if you have access to Muntakhab Ahadith then I could direct you to the Ahadith numbers, as some of them are long. If not, there's a pdf online..

As for the Ayat on forgiveness for those who strive in the path of Allah: Al-Anfal: 74 and As-Saff: 10-12

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#70 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 22:02

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Jazak'Allah.

Can you quote what you or send me a PDF file, brother?

I'd rather have the quotes, I'd really appreciate it. Whenever it's convenient Hafiz-saab.

Btw, if one chooses NOT to go Jamat by choice is he sinful?

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#71 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 22:05

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Thats not what I was getting at, but you know what, I'll just leave it here insha'Allah. I feel Im being a bit too nit-picky. Both efforts earn massive rewards, period. JazakAllah for the interesting article.

When you get a response from Mufti Sahib, post it here insha'Allah. I would love to read it.

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#72 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 22:10

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My point is that these Fuqaha of our time never made a fuss about the enormous rewards mentioned and most of them had no problem with "fi sabeelillah" being used for the effort. Now, why do we react so "nit-picking" and demand precise proofs? Because - Allah knows why - when we get confronted by the praises of another effort, we feel like our effort has been automaticly degraded. This is a complex, sickness, mental disorder or whatever you want to call it, and has to be removed from our minds. Reality is the efforts of truth do not replace nor degrade eatch other. Nizamuddin elders as Mawlana Sa'ad Kandhalvi (hafizahullah) are very clear about this.

We live in a time where our Deen has been manipulated left right and centre. We have each and every group claiming to be honest and from Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaa' so if we want to make sure we aren't doing anything wrong, asking for Daleel is a step in the right direction.

For years now, people have blindly followed their parents and Shaykhs without the proof nd have since adopted a religious belief system that is far from the truth.

Today, we have Barelwi, Qadiani and so on who don't ask for evidence because their elders taught it and they can't be wrong, right!

We are just being cautious because we don't want to fall under the category of the famous Hadith, "Every newly invented matter is going astray....."

So for many of us, nitpicking isn't a choice but a way to ensure we aren't one of those leading to the hell-fire.

I'm still wary about the proofs given only because I also feel the more difficult and rewarding path being the one on the battle field. I can't justify it being equal.

On top of that many ulama have stated that some of the narrations are weak / fabrications, especially the one about the greater jihad of the nafs, but I'm not denying or rejecting them, just being cautious.

So yes, for me too, Daleel is vital especially when we get eaten alive by the Salafi and their methods of interrogation.

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#73 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 22:23

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Akhi you need to go less hard on yourself, your niyyah is Allah and hidayya is solely in His hands. If you were so affected by people and what they say and react then tableegh would be the last effort you'd be involved in, as in the effort you meet all kinds of people from all walks of life. Me and others have benefitted a lot from your old posts and the non bootlicking straight talking behaviour so please for the sake of Allah restart that bro as their is good in that. Plus this new style of yours don't suit you.

I brought the brother here, because I thought it would be the best thing to do, plus MS is better than Islamic Awakening and Ummah forum all day long. Can you imagine if he went their what replies he would have gotten over there ? Insha'Ala I hope some of the doubts of the brother have been cleared now. At the end of the day were Muslim brothers from different mothers, and brothers help each other.

This debate has been beneficial for me as well big time as I've learnt new things and now I really really want to go Nizamudeen at least once in my life, so yeah Insha'Ala lets see.

If your in khurooj right now then please do remember me in your duas if you're not then do make dua for this sinner when you go next I really do need it.

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#74 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 22:24

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Go to islamibayanaat.com to read the pdf.

Leaving dawah and not having concern for Muslims/ humanity is sinful.

The work of dawah and tabligh is just one effective way (not the only way) to fulfill the above responsiblilities....

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#75 [Permalink] Posted on 10th March 2014 22:26

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Asalamualaikum brother,

I agree with much of your sentiments and may Allah bless Sheikh Zakariayah (RA). It's a strong opinion from a strong scholar, but an opinion nonetheless. Whether we agree or not plus indulge or not will not hinder our Iman any less.

Insh'Allah.

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