The "scholar" wrote:
You write:
Interesting enough the Sunni jurists almost unanimously accept the doctrine of awl. The doctrine of awl is based on the ijma` of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad (SAWS).
It may be added to your statement that the doctrine of 'awl' is based on an interpretation of the Qur'an, according to which, God has said something to the effect that "The five brothers should get one-fourth each of the total inheritance[1]". Saying that 'The five brothers should get one-fourth each of the total inheritance', in mathematical terms is like saying:
1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 = 1
or that:
1/4 x 5 = 1
This, obviously, is a mathematical error. If this is not a mathematical error, then please tell me, what, in your opinion, would amount to a mathematical error? I assure you that we are so certain about it being a mathematical error that if a statement like 'distribute $100 in five brothers, in such a way that each of them gets one-third', was given by my son's mathematics teacher, I certainly would have thought that the man was not qualified to teach mathematics.
Thus, in my opinion, your complete statement should read as: "Although based on an interpretation of the Qur'an, which accepts a mathematical error in the Qur'an, yet, interesting enough, the Sunni jurists, almost unanimously accept the doctrine of awl." [/quote]
The problem with this jaahil is that he doesn't recognize the simple fact that the Qur'an does not go into every single intricate detail dealing with inheritance. Even though the verses of inheritance are more detailed than any others in the Qur'an, they still only provide the general outline. The rest has to be derived through the ahadith, fiqh, qiyas, and ijma'. This is how the fuqaha determined the rules regarding grandparents, grandchildren, cousins, uncles, and nephews, although none of these relatives are mentioned in the verses of inheritance. The same applies to the law of 'awl.
'Awl is based upon the correct understanding of the sahaaba, and is now agreed upon by all four madhabs. His assertion that it implies there is a mistake in the Qur'an is ridiculous. The Qur'an does not expound upon every detail of any mas'alah. Take a look at the verses of Hajj. There are countless masaa'il of Hajj that are not mentioned in the Qur'an. Should we now assert that this implies the Qur'an has errors? No, we go to the ahadith and other sources of Islam to derive the rest of the masaa'il.
The example of "1/4 x 5 = 1" is misleading and only shows the "scholars" lack of knowledge. Here is the law of 'awl as explained by a sahaabi:
"It was narrated that Al-'Abbaas said: "O Leader of the Believers, tell me: If a man passed away and left six dirhams, and he owed three dirhams to one man and four to another, what would you do? Would you not make the wealth into seven parts?" He said, "Yes." Upon this, Al-'Abbaas said: "It is the same thing." Thus, 'Umar applied the principle of 'Awl."
And here is how Ibn al-Qayyim explained the derivation, how it was deduced through qiyas:
Quote:
"The Companions applied 'Awl in inheritance and applied decrease to all heirs by drawing analogy from the decrease applied to the shares of creditors in case where the total assets of a bankrupt person cannot pay off all entitlements. Moreover, the Prophet , said to creditors: 'Take what you find and that is all that you are entitled to.' This is pure justice, while exclusively depriving some creditors and giving some of them their full share is not just."
Indeed, the principle of 'Awl reflects the beauty of Islam in terms of its justice in matters and its suitability for dealing with new developments.[/quote]
This is how the companions understood it, and we accept it 100%. Whats being done in 'awl (simply put) is that the prescribed shares in the Qur'an are being treated like ratio's, hence every one's share is being decreased in proportion to this ratio. This way, everyone gets a share, and no one gets left out.
What the "scholar" suggests is something completely against the fatwa of the four madhabs. In order to avoid 'awl, he suggests that once the parents get their shares, the daughter (if inheriting without a son) gets 1/2 (or 2/3 if two or more daughters) of the remaining estate. This is an entirely fictitious rule, with no basis whatsoever. What gives him the right to decide that the daughter will inherit from the remaining estate (rather than from the entire estate)? The rule was formulated only to avoid what they perceived would lead to a "mistake" in the Qur'an. No actual basis whatsoever, absolutely arbitrary rule.
On top of this he has the audacity to say that the entire ummah for the past 1400 years has been wrong, and suddenly he comes along with his deviant clean-shaven teacher Javed Ahmed Ghamidi to set things straight!
[quote="The "scholar""][1] According to the interpretation of the Muslim jurists, the Qur'an says: give the two daughters of the deceased one-third each of the total, the parents of the deceased one-sixth each of the total and the wife of the deceased one-eighth of the total inheritance. Stated in arithmetic terms, this interpretation implies that the Qur'an has said: 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/6 + 1/6 + 1/8 is less than or equal to 'one'.
Indeed, the principle of 'Awl reflects the beauty of Islam in terms of its justice in matters and its suitability for dealing with new developments.[/quote]
This is how the companions understood it, and we accept it 100%. Whats being done in 'awl (simply put) is that the prescribed shares in the Qur'an are being treated like ratio's, hence every one's share is being decreased in proportion to this ratio. This way, everyone gets a share, and no one gets left out.
What the "scholar" suggests is something completely against the fatwa of the four madhabs. In order to avoid 'awl, he suggests that once the parents get their shares, the daughter (if inheriting without a son) gets 1/2 (or 2/3 if two or more daughters) of the remaining estate. This is an entirely fictitious rule, with no basis whatsoever. What gives him the right to decide that the daughter will inherit from the remaining estate (rather than from the entire estate)? The rule was formulated only to avoid what they perceived would lead to a "mistake" in the Qur'an. No actual basis whatsoever, absolutely arbitrary rule.
On top of this he has the audacity to say that the entire ummah for the past 1400 years has been wrong, and suddenly he comes along with his deviant clean-shaven teacher Javed Ahmed Ghamidi to set things straight!
[quote="The "scholar""][1] According to the interpretation of the Muslim jurists, the Qur'an says: give the two daughters of the deceased one-third each of the total, the parents of the deceased one-sixth each of the total and the wife of the deceased one-eighth of the total inheritance. Stated in arithmetic terms, this interpretation implies that the Qur'an has said: 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/6 + 1/6 + 1/8 is less than or equal to 'one'.
Nope, we do accept that this adds up to more than one. But in this case we apply 'awl as taught by the sahaabah and the generations of Muslims afterwards.
[quote="The "scholar"][2] Consider the distribution of shares in case the inheritors are: 1) a wife, 2) father, 3) mother and 4) two daughters. The shares stipulated in the Qur'an in such a case are: one-eighth, one-sixth, one-sixth and two-thirds respectively. However, applying the doctrine of awl, the shares would amount to:
Wife inherits 1/9 (was supposed to get one-eighth)
Father inherits 4/27 (was supposed to get one-sixth)
Mother inherits 4/27 (was supposed to get one-sixth)
2 daughters inherit 16/27 equally (were supposed to get two-thirds)
Is this what the Qur'an had directed?
Again, the entire problem here is his misunderstanding of how these verses apply. The new shares are still in exact proportion their original shares. Everything is still based off of the original shares. What the Qur'an directed is best known to the sahaabah, not a faasiq "scholar" who holds his opinion to be above the entire ijma' of the ummah.
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and that there is a chance that a "mistake" could have been made when narrating them. Now he presents the only athar (not even a hadith) which happens to support his anti-'awl opinion and accepts it without hesitation. I guess when it suits him the narrations suddenly become fully reliable, and when it doesn't suit him, they may be "mistaken". This is called following your desires.