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#61 [Permalink] Posted on 20th March 2014 12:30

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Hazrat,

Requirements are subjective and relative to the region and the people. Ulamah of Deoband had very good grasp and familiarity with sciences of their time and enough fundamentals to Master the intricacies of emergening Fitnahs quickly and effectively. 

All this boils down to is:

  1. Knowledge of multiple languages spoken in an area
  2. Knowledge of scieneces of that time
  3. Knowledge of Jihad and Martial Arts of the time
  4. Good voice and aceptable looks (this is mentioned in books of Fiqh)

In my limited knowledge our Akabir had it. Shaykh (Mufti) Rasheed Ahmed Gangohi (RA) used to speak to villagers in their native tongue, Ulamah knew Urdu, Persian, Arabic and whatever their ethnic language was. Maths was well known. When the Shuddi movement started they looked into and Mastered it, when the Christians came they countered the Missionaries and when the British needed to be countered they entered Politics.

Same goes for Aimmah Mujtahideen read Kitabul-Khiraj of Imam Abu Yusuf (RA)

Imam Sarakhsi (RA) in my knowledge was a Master of multiple subjects from what I have read.

Besides these are requirements for an Imam in the Captial of Islam where this Imam (I guess) will be forced to interact with foreign dignitaries, give tours and information about Islam etc.

So it is possible, Hazrat.

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#62 [Permalink] Posted on 21st March 2014 19:26
US slams Turkey's move to shut down Twitter

21 March 2014 18:31 GMT

The United States on Friday slammed an attempt by Turkey to ban the online social network Twitter, which government opponents have used to publish corruption allegations.

State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said the order to prevent Turks from accessing the US firm's micro-blogging site was "contrary to Turkey's desire to be a model of democracy."

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#63 [Permalink] Posted on 21st March 2014 20:07
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They cant stop people from accessing to Twitter. There is something called iP adress.So useless what they do. I guess they dont know about IP address?
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#64 [Permalink] Posted on 21st March 2014 20:18
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السلام عليكم

The handsome part has been mentioned in the books of fiqh. Its not an integral qualification. But it has come up in order of preference when there is a disagreement.


THE IMAMATE
f12.2S The one with the best right to be imam (N: in order of preference, when there is a disagreement) is:
(1) the most learned in Sacred Law (A: i.e. the rulings concerned with prayer) (0: even if he has not memorized any of the Koran except the
Fatiha, since the need in prayer for knowledge of its rules is practically unlimited, while the only Koran recital required is the Fatiha);
(2) he who has memorized the most Koran;
(3) the most godfearing (0: because leading the prayer is an embassage between the servant and Allah Most High, and best befits him most
honored by Allah);
(4) he who has been a Muslim longest;
(5) the noblest in lineage;
(6) he with the best life history or reputation;
(7) the cleanest in person and clothes;
(8) he with the best voice;
(9) and the most handsome.
When only one of the above is present, he is chosen. If all people present or some of them possess one or more of these characteristics, then
someone from the first of the list takes priority over those listed after him. If two are equal and each insists on being the imam, they draw lots.
(N: It is permissible for a less qualified person to lead, even when a better qualified one is present.)
The imam assigned to a mosque or a person living in the house where the prayer takes place, even if only renting, takes precedence over
everyone on the list, from the most learned on down, though he may select anyone else he wishes to lead the prayer. The sultan and those under him, of Islamic judges, regional governors, and so on, take precedence over even the imam of the mosque, the householder, and others.

The following take precedence even when the latter is more learned in Sacred Law:
(1) a nontraveller over a traveller;
(2) an upright person (def: 024.4) over a corrupt one;
(3) and an adult over a child.
A sighted and a blind person are equally eligible to lead the prayer.

f12.26 It is offensive for someone to lead a group at prayer when most of the group dislike him for a reason recognized by Sacred Law
(0: such as wrongdoing, not taking precautions against filth (najasa), having a blameworthy income, keeping the company of oppressors or the immoral, and so forth.
If a minority dislike him, it is not offensive, for nobody lacks someone who dislikes him).

[Reliance of a Traveller]



Obviously in reality I don't think there would ever come a scenario where there is a disagreement over imamate and all 8 criteria are extinguished and the group having to decide the imam based on handsomeness. :)

But still I just wanted to show its mentioned in the books of fiqh. So do not jump to criticize the Ottoman criteria for appointing an Imam.
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#65 [Permalink] Posted on 21st March 2014 23:26
Don't you just love Fiqh!

These are situations where possibilities may arise. I'm not 100% on the order in the hanafi maslak, but after the handsomeness of the Imam if, a conclusion is not drawn, then it comes down to the beauty of the wife. Which ever imams wife (if married) is more beautiful, then he would be appointed Imam.

Fiqh can get deep and can have so many possible solutions, yet we get mocked at by silly comments and GMs.

Let's just say arguments sake, two imams ate equal in every quality and were twins, they would equally be handsome, then it would go down to the wives, but what if the wives were also twins? Amazing and we thank Allah for such a sweet Deen and giving us the tools of Fiqh. The list can be endless, but at least we have the solution.
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#66 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd March 2014 00:06
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Hanafi perspective is similar.

From Bahishti Zewar:

The person who is most worthy of imaamat is that person who has a thorough knowledge of the masa'il of salaat as long as he does not have any outward characteristics of fisq (immorality), he knows the specified number of verses for recitation, and recites the Quran correctly. After him, the person who recites the Quran according to the rules that have been laid down. Thereafter, the person who is the most pious. Thereafter, the person who is the most senior in age. Thereafter, the person who is most courteous. Thereafter, the person who is the most handsome. Thereafter, the person who is the most noble. Thereafer, the person who has the best voice. Thereafter, the person who is the most well-dressed. Thereafer, the person who has the largest head as long as it is in proportion to his body. Thereafter, preference is given to the muqeem over the musafir. Thereafter, the person who was born as a free person. Thereafter, the person who made tayammum for hadath-e-asghar is given preference over the person who made tayammum for hadath-e-akbar. But according to some, the person who made tayammum for hadath-e-akbar is given preference.

Here's a really old thread I started way back when SF used to exist: www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?99967-Question-ab...

Please excuse me for using the word "weird" to describe a fiqh ruling (I was new to this stuff at the time). Read Maulana Abu Hajira's explanation at the end, masha'Allah. Ironically, there a Salafi and a Barelwi attempting to troll the thread, lol. Just as you mentioned...
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#67 [Permalink] Posted on 22nd March 2014 10:47
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JazakAllah khair for clarifying that.
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#68 [Permalink] Posted on 20th April 2014 17:23
Some interesting historical news here
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#69 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd November 2014 10:46
As salamu alaikum brothers and sisters in İslam

İ want to know if you heard of Alparslan Kuytul and his organisation Furkan? İf so, do you know that he is authetic?
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#70 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd November 2014 11:37
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#71 [Permalink] Posted on 25th November 2014 03:57
Canim=My life?
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#72 [Permalink] Posted on 25th November 2014 04:21
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Dear
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#73 [Permalink] Posted on 5th June 2017 02:35
Which hotel to stay in if you want to cover all the historical sites and museum in istanbul?

Would it be preferable to stay close to blue mosque or is the blue mosque one time tourist attraction thing and stay somewhere else because they are mosques everywhere for salah?
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