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#61 [Permalink] Posted on 24th December 2013 12:04
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How saud dynasty snatched the power in jaziratul Arab is known to all of us. Also There were other factors related to downfall of ottoman khilafah. Without tyrannical role of traitor Ata Turk it was not possible. The defeat of Turkey in 1st world war played an important role in its incidence and so on.

Now Saudi Arab is the personal property of a tribe, so what? It's none of our business. We can't do anything to harm this regime. Who can dethrone them? None but citizens of the state. Restlessness among the people is growing as they're now fed up with this regime. Just wait- most probably, we'll see a big revolt in Saudi Arab. InshaAllah

Different groups which are funded to spread the pro regime waves in order to strengthen their kingship by converting the common people into salfism are on the job day and night. They're using internet at large. Televengalsits like Dr Zakir Naik have captured the pulse of the present generation with their enchanted eloquence and modus operandi.

We must see the reality, they're spreading rapidly and how to cope with them is a big challenge. Neither we can interpolate the religious text nor can dilute the truth with concocted stories like them. If we're sure that we're on right path and they're deviated, then, we've to follow the ways of our beloved prophet Hazrat Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam to face the challenge of Batil and the way of RasulAllah sallallahu alaihi wasallam is before us in form of TJ to quash all these Batil forces. So come forward to bring the people from darkness into the light of true teachings of Islam.

If your not agreed with me then chalk out a strategic planning at your own Discretion or invite the members to express their opinions on this particular issue, just slandering or anathematizing them isnt a suitable solution at all.
We need:
Money
Men
Media
Muscle
Modus operandi with cunningness and baseness
mystification with pomp and show

Can we afford?

Allah swt knows best.
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#62 [Permalink] Posted on 24th December 2013 14:57
So in your eyes Saudeesz Salafees, Dr Zakir Naik and Tableeghi Jamaat are all Baatil? Who is on Haqq, then?
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#63 [Permalink] Posted on 24th December 2013 15:30
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It's been a while since I read nonsense on a Islamic forum, in fact I forgot what it was like to read garbage on islamic forums.

Akhii on what basis do you make these absurd claims ??

1) on the basis of your various accounts on various forums including brelvi and modernist ones ? Because I think it's starting to take a toll on you now.

2) Naik is funded by Saudi's ?

3) TJ is a Batil movement ?

Please provide evidence ?

Please elaborate ....
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#64 [Permalink] Posted on 24th December 2013 15:42
Astaghfirullah, my mistake, plz read again.
However, I want to clarify that I'm not a troll, plzsee it-
Barelvis' forum- you mean SF.net- yes, I dont start any controversial thread. My ulama stop me to make dispute, so I abstain. I prefer barelvis to GM.

Modernist forum: you mean- ummah.com
I represent Ulama e Haq there, it's crowed with salafis even some mods are tilting to salafism, this is why I dont have good rep point. You can see it.
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#65 [Permalink] Posted on 24th December 2013 15:48
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Ignore my above post then akhi
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#66 [Permalink] Posted on 24th December 2013 16:56
Who are your Ulamah who prefer Barelwees to Ghair-Muqalideen? Names please? And they also consider Tableeghi Jmaat to be Baatil?
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#67 [Permalink] Posted on 24th December 2013 17:48
Brother Muadh_Khan, take another look at the OP insha'Allah. I don't see anything there about TJ being baatil. I think the brother is saying quite the opposite actually:

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...to cope with them we've to follow the ways of our beloved prophet Hazrat Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam to face the challenge of Batil and the way of RasulAllah sallallahu alaihi wasallam is before us in form of TJ to quash all these Batil forces.


Or, perhaps I've misunderstood.
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#68 [Permalink] Posted on 24th December 2013 23:40
Sister Acacia,

jazakallahu Khayran...I misunderstood
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#69 [Permalink] Posted on 25th December 2013 16:17
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Brother, I know your comments are always considered important as you're a very respectable member of both the forums and I'm a newbie before you.

My elders= Ulama e Deoband; and perhaps you dont find my post worth reading, this is why you've asked this Q.

Why do I prefer Barelvis?

Barelvis and GM- both groups are wrong. But we've challenge from GM because their logic and way of proslytizing is more effective than barelvis. I never heard that any of our brother embraces barelvi maslak but on other side GM are snatching away our brothers very easily. What we're doing except watching helplessly. Simply bashing them isnt the solution but concrete planning is needed. I know our ulama ikram are on the job though, yet it's not enough. See the ground realities.

I always remain in touch with ulama ikram. At least 5 ulama e ikram are good friends of mine. They're unanimously agreed on one point- that barelvis are like half baked bread but GM are burnt bread. So we can expect that common-barelvis may join us but it can't be expected from GMs.
I dont claim that this preference is applicable everywhere.
One of my friend who's a mufti said that when he was leaving Mazahirul ulum his Shaykh told him that Ghairmuqallidyat is the toughest fitna of this age.

Allah swt knows best.
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#70 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2013 19:22
Asslamo Allaikum Br ArfatZafar,

I absolutely find your post like everyone else's post better then mine and more valuable. I misunderstood your comments about Tableeghi Jamaat and it was error on my part for which I apologise. Due to my misunderstanding I asked for you to clarify which Ulamah say this.

Jazakallahu Khayran for explaining...
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#71 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2013 19:50
Does any one know how abdulwahhab died and where he is buried? I never hear salafis talk about this as if they are hiding something about this issue. If any one has any info on this, please share.
Jazakullah khayran
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#72 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2013 22:20
Brother,

We are not supposed to keep track of graves so make dua my grave becomes unknown and people don't find it even if they wish to find it for some bizarre reason!

Those who want to send reward they can do so without knowing my grave!
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#73 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2013 22:48
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MashaAllah, very pleased to see a very fine response, Alhumdulillah.

I was beginning to think the thread would get derailed.

Jazakallah brother Muadh. Much appreciated.
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#74 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2013 22:58
Well said brother muadh but I'm not interested so much as to where abdulwahhab is buried but how he died. Was he killed by the ottomans? Did the Muslims kill him? That's what I'd like to know if any one read up on this issue. Jazakullah
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#75 [Permalink] Posted on 27th December 2013 23:42
Brother,

Lets consider somethings.

Shaykh (Mufti) A.S.Desai (HA) calls Shaykh (Maulana) Ebraheem Bham (HA) a heretic reverend and believes that Shaykh (Maulana) Tariq Jameel (HA) is involved in Kuf'r...200 years from now someone will discover these accurate historical artefacts and actually believe this to be true!

This is what is wrong with partial study of history. Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahab (RA) wasn't executed by the Ottomans but another Shaykh was arrested, transported to Istanbul and excuted. The Barelwees and Sufees love to mix the two up!
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