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#16 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2013 14:44

See also another stance of the Saudi Regime.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24580767

Saudi Arabia turns down UN Security Council seat

File photo of UN Security Council Saudi Arabia would have been one of 10 new non-permanent members of the UN Security Council serving for two years

Saudi Arabia has turned down a non-permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council, accusing the world body of "double standards".

The Saudi foreign ministry said the UN needs to be reformed first.

It said the Security Council had failed in its duties towards Syria as well as in other world conflicts.

Saudi Arabia has previously expressed frustration at what it sees as an international failure to act on Syria, where it staunchly backs the rebels.

See link for full story.
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#17 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2013 15:02
The crime of the Saud leadership is manifestly clear by supporting the oppression of Ahl al-Sunnah in Egypt, Iraq and elsewhere while allowing the Shi'ite Rawafidh from Yemn, Qatif, Iran, etc free and unfettered access to the Haramayn.

And in front of these delegations Al-Saud then calls for unity with the all the sects!

If this is not a crime against Ahl al-Sunnah then what is?

These same Shi'ite Rawafidh are claiming and making propaganda that "wahhabis" attacked some of their Hujjaj and shouted "we will kill you like Husayn (RA) and enslave you like Zaynab (RA)".

So was al-Saud excluding the Shi'ite Rawafidh "sect" in his speech of unity?
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#18 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2013 15:45
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I agree with you bro, but I was just putting it into context.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Prince was practicing Taqiyah ;-)
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#19 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2013 20:03
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#20 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2013 21:14
Salam

Anyone care to tell me or point me in the direction of some reading, as to how exactly did the Saud's destroy the Ottoman Caliphate ?

Weren't it Kamal Ataturk who was responsible for it and bringing secularism etc into it ?
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#21 [Permalink] Posted on 18th October 2013 21:38
Ataturk didn't destroy Osmanli... the Ottoman empire was already on a down-ward spiral. Ataturk destroyed Islam in the republic that he along with others (but most notably the extremely hard working men and women of Anatolia) were able to save from the hands of Europeans.

The empire was crumbling and there was a lot of pressure from outside the empire on various groups within the empire to make them break-away... many were promised land in return for revolt or assistance in fighting against the empire of which they were a part. Arabs were lulled into betraying the empire just like others... just like Armenians.

You'll likely get varying versions of the story... depending on who does the telling. In the end it was Allah Ta'aala's will that it collapse and though we can see the impact Ataturk's reforms have had, we have to also assume that things weren't all that great during the later years of the empire (Islamically speaking) though those details may not have physically manifested themselves in people's clothing etc.

May Allah Ta'aala grant our ummah something much better. Ameen.
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#22 [Permalink] Posted on 26th October 2013 14:48

Shaykh (Maulana) Salman Nadwi (HA)

one of the foremost Scholars of Islamic world

Halalified YT Audio

  1. The name of the area around the Haramain is "Jazeeratul-Arab" in Qur'aan and Sunnah and not "Saudi Arabia"! The area sacred to believers CANNOT be attirbuted to a family of bandits and criminals!
  2. They have villified the sacred lands of believers
  3. They have paid the Scholars and pucrhased them with Dollars!
  4. They have destroyed the Dawah of Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahab (RA).
  5. Open the TV in Makkah and you have FILTHY movies, Music, praises of the KIngs but there is no Channel, no newspaper, no articles on the Government?
  6. All these hotels, and facilities are NOT for the Hajees but to benefit the Jews and their investments (multi-national Hotels, Shopping centres, store chains)

WE WILL NOT TOLERATE THE VILLYFYING OF SACRED LANDS AND INSULTING OF HAJEES BY THESE CRIMINALS!!!

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#23 [Permalink] Posted on 26th October 2013 15:27

Saudi Government: Deobandees need to wake up!

Asslamo Allaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Rahmatullahi,

Since 1926, the sacred land of the believers is being run by a filthy band of robbers and bandits. Allah (SWT) has blessed these lands with oil and other natural resources but the blessings of Allah (SWT) are being wasted on criminal and forbidden activities like drinking, gambling, and womanizing. The centres of Haraam in the west has been flowing with money from these robbers and bandits. They usurp the wealth of the Ummah and waste it at the feet of call girls in western cities. The proliferation of expensive hotels in Makkah and Madina has resulted in sky rocketing of Hajj and Umrah costs and the Government employees treat Hajees like cattle at airports and immigration checkpoints.  

Turn on your TV in Makkah and every filth imaginable is available right in your hotel room, across the Haram Shareef. Look at your hotel menu and you will meat from around the world with no care and attention to the laws of Shariah. Walk outside your hotel and you find Victoria’s secret and other filthy lingerie. The palaces of the kings, expensive flats and stupid clocks (imitating cities of the west) tower the minarets of the sacred house of Allah (SWT). Old men, women and those of feeble health of the Ummah of Sayyidina Rasul-ullah (Sallallaho Alaihe Wassallam) get beat up by security personnel while making Tawaf around the house of Allah (SWT).

But the greatest crime of the filthy band of robbers and bandits ruling the sacred lands of the believers (and their poodle Scholars for Dollars) is to sabotage efforts for establishing the Deen of Allah (SWT). Whether its Tableeghi Jamaat, Jihad, Jamia Hafasa or Al-Ikhwanul-Muslimeen no one is free from the “Fatwa passing” of these “rented donkeys” masquerading as Islamic Scholars.

Alhumdolillah, that the filth being propagated from the members of Haram towards President (Hafidh) Morsi and Al-Ikhwanul-Muslimeen has woken up the Scholars from around the world in condemnation of this filthy regime and its actions.

We ask all Muslims to wake up to the crimes of these bandits and Fear Allah (SWT). Sayyidina Mahdi (AS) will emerge and DISMANTLE the rule of these bandits and we ask Allah (SWT) to give the realisation to the believers to ensure that they side with the Haqq and not the Baatil (Ameen).

These talks are long so we have summarised some of the points and Insha'Allah at some point will translate in FULL, a few main points are as follows:

  • The Holy lands of the Muslims should be referred to as "Jazeeratul-Arab" which is its name in the Qur'aan and Sunnah and history.
  • Usury, interest and all such FILTH should be removed from Jazeeratul-Arab
  • Alcohol, gambling, prostitution, womenising and all such FILTH should be removed from Jazeeratul-Arab
  • Wasting of Ummah's money, resources indulging in Haram of the family of bandits and robbers should be removed from Jazeeratul-Arab
  • The citadels of Jews and multi-national corporations (Hotels, Shops, Markets) should be removed from Jazeeratul-Arab
  • Hajj is an Islamic act of worship which has been turned into a carnival of shopping and tourism!!! Hajj should be returned to its sprituality and essence
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#24 [Permalink] Posted on 26th October 2013 16:06
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jazakallah khair. may allah reward you.
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#25 [Permalink] Posted on 26th October 2013 16:18

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Is it me or has anyone noticed that Saudi Ulamah and their (Islamic) graduates have a problem with:

  1. Madhabs
  2. Jihad
  3. Taqleed
  4. Tassawuff
  5. Tableeghi Jihad
  6. Jamaat-e-Islami
  7. Ikhwanul-Muslimeen

I have not heard of any Islamic movement (of note) and established idea which they have praised or at least agreed to disagree with throughout the history of their bandit rule?

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#26 [Permalink] Posted on 26th October 2013 16:28
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basically all the things that would cause them to lose control over people and their knowledge/actions?
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#27 [Permalink] Posted on 26th October 2013 20:44
Topic split from the driving post.

جزاك الله خيرا sister Taalibah.
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#28 [Permalink] Posted on 27th October 2013 23:40
I've heard that Maulana Salman Nadwi has been banned from entering Saudi Arabia after his speech. Is that true?
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#29 [Permalink] Posted on 28th October 2013 09:41
bhai muadh khaan your statement is a generalization.

1. Madhabs- the original wahabis were strict muqalids. Some adopted the more zahiri/ahle hadeeth way like bin baz etc but even bin baz rh I have not come across a serious anti-taqleed stance. You do know that a lot of salafis follow madhab.
2. Jihad-salafis take part and this is well known and more than sufis.
3. Linked to point 1.
4. Tasawuff in a formalized sense but they don't reject tazkiya. Most of them carry a mushaf with them, read the morning/evening azkaar from hisnul muslim, fast monday/thursday etc. Actually probably one of the earliest lessons on sulook I had was by a salafi going through the exquisite pearl by imam saadi.
5. Tableeghi jihad....sorry don't understand this term but if you mean tabligh then many salafis take part in the effort and most of the arab tablighis are salafis. If you mean a problem using the virtues of jihad for tabligh then many people have a problem with this ghuloo (to a certain extent) including big ulema.
6. In South India jamaat e islami and salafis are almost 1.
7. Many ikhwanis would be classified as salafis. Was it not shaykh yaqoubi who tweeted against the ikhwan and told his followers on twitter not to use the rabwa sign (the 4 fingers sign) as ikhwan are against sufis. The post was deleted afterwards but enough to show the mindset.

All in all although your points can be applied to certain salafis I would state that they could equally apply to other groups as well and salafis have no monopoly on the,.
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#30 [Permalink] Posted on 28th October 2013 09:45
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If not as soon as he talks in Arabic he will be. He has huge influence amongst Arabs and highly regarded. If he chooses to give this talk in Arabic it will be a bombshell and will also determine how serious he is about this.

He knows that in order to make it impact he needs to speak in Arabic!

If he is serious then I say him speaking in Arabic followed by or simultaneously by Shaykh Yusuf Qaradawi (HA)!
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