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#46 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2013 12:45
Abu Baseer you mean the salafi jihadi?
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#47 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2013 12:55
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Are these two Deobandis??? :-|
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#48 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2013 13:03
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No and if you know any prominent Deobandi Ulamah who offer Fatwas or advise on Geo-political affairs (even in their own countries) do let me know.

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#49 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2013 13:15
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Please elaborate further by what you mean?
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#50 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2013 13:27
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Salaamualaikum brother London 786

why wouldn't Moulana a.s. desai's view on the Saudi government not count? What is your reason for saying this? Please explain.
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#51 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2013 13:31
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Salams brother

Moulana a.s. Desaiis is deobandi.i don't know about the other.
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#52 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2013 14:03
muadh khan has hit the nail on it's head. It is hard to think of a single deobandi alim who touches socio-political issues except to some extent shaykh syed salman nadwi (then again he is not deobandi in the strict sense)
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#53 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2013 14:04
Mufti A S Desai says some things which are very objectional and I'm sure the majority of deobandi ulema would disagree with him on most issues.
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#54 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2013 16:56
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He is a senior deobandi alim and high ranking khalifah of hazrat maseehullah ummat khan ( r.a. ). It's true that other deobandis disagree with him on other issues but that doesn't diminish his rank or does that make him an outcast of deoband. I read his stance on the saudi regime and pretty much labeled them a kaafir government. you can't get any more severe then that my brother.
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#55 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2013 17:04
That is what I meant dear brother that I would expect mufti A S desai saab db. Brother his shaykh's khulafah I've met some alhamdulillah and mureeds and I can't think of a single one who would do takfir of the saudi regime. With regards to his rank off-course his rank is far higher than mine but ilm wise I would not accept hazrat mufti A S desai's views as the final viewpoint on an issue. Also issues like takfir require an in-depth fiqhi analysis.
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#56 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2013 17:50
salaam

i do not know of any deobandi ulama who have declared the saudi regime to be upon kufr.

but i am an ignorant fool. a jahil. so i would at least like the deobandi ulama to explain to me why the many ayats and hadith which outline blatant acts of kufr (many of which the saudi regime are carrying out) do not apply to them.
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#57 [Permalink] Posted on 29th November 2013 18:05
You may continue in private sections or please take it to personal blogs. Jazakumullah
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#58 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd December 2013 12:38

Assalaamu 'Alaykum

Excellent article by Mawlana Sulayman Kindi

Presenting the Quran & rational thought to Saudi apologists

Merriam-Webster defines Apologetics as:

 

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:  systematic argumentative discourse in defense (as of a doctrine)

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:  a branch of theology devoted to the defense of the divine origin and authority of Christianity

 

 

Amongst the Muslim community, there are those who defend the Saudi regime as if defending their religion or a doctrine. These apologists either have financial interests in doing so, or at the very least, subconsciously seek to soothe their hidden guilt at allowing an anti-Islāmic force to rule the sacred soil of Arabia. They are not bothered at the broader issues and crises of Islām as long as they can continue their lifestyle as they please.

The arguments they present are patently naïve and never refer to the Qurān or Ḥadīth, for indeed the sacred texts of Islām cannot condone the existence of a tyrannical, treasonous regime devoted to Ghayrullāh. To even call these arguments “apologetics” is a kindness, for apologetics is defined to be “systematic,” unlike the statements of Saudi apologists.

 

1.    The excesses of the Saudis are to be balanced against their great service to the Muslims

Okay, so the Saudis have made the Maṭāf marble when previously Ṭawāf was more physically taxing. They have installed air-conditioning and many other material amenities. This is not in dispute. What I do dispute is firstly, this argument presents nothing of a scriptural basis. It is pure concocted defence. Secondly the defence is invalid.

  • The apologists pretend that the Saudis have spent of their own personal wealth in the cause of Allāh and deserve recognition for this supposed selfless sacrifice. How many minutes of honest labour have the Saudis engaged in and how many millilitres of sweat have they perspired to acquire this wealth of “theirs”?  Unless the apologists wish to stoop to unheard of levels of shamelessness, nobody is able to deny the fact that the thousands of Saudis who call themselves princes are nothing but parasites leeching off the wealth of Allāh and the Ummah. When they do engage in work, it is in the fields of drug trafficking, stealing property from commoners, taking loans and not repaying and the like.
  • When the Jews offer the Palestinians some scraps of amenities, we are not impressed, and rightfully so. The wealth is stolen and if a portion is thrown back, why should the victim show gratitude? What is the difference between Jewish and Saudi theft?
  • The amounts spent on the Ḥaramayn should be weighed against the mind boggling billions which the House of Saud lavishes not just on extravagant lifestyles, palaces and yachts, but Allāh alone knows the incalculable amount spent on gambling and prostitution. Consider just two facts – ABC reported in 2004 how Saudi princes paid prostitutes of both sexes in the French  Riviera up to $50,000 per session; and consider that in 1969, i.e. just two years after the loss of al-Aqṣā, Fahd gambled 5.6m USD away in a single night. Adjust that to current values and ask with what face do the apologists ask us to be grateful to this house?
  • Even if the wealth came from the personal funds and generosity of the Saudis, I would advise the apologists to read the Qurān, at least once in a while. Remember that Pharaoh had raised Mūsā ‘alayhis salām since he was a baby. He not only paid for his food, clothing and the roof over his head, even the mother’s milk which Mūsā ‘alayhis salām drank was not for free. Pharaoh paid his mother to breast-feed him. The Qurān describes how the now Nabī Mūsā ‘alayhis salām denounces the shirk and tyranny of Pharaoh. Pharaoh responds in the same vein as the apologists and reminds Mūsā ‘alayhis salām of his past generosity to him. I shall limit myself to quoting the reply of Mūsā ‘alayhis salām. If an explanation is needed on comparing the two scenarios then may Allāh have mercy!

وتلك نعمة تمنها علي أن عبدت بني إسرائيل

And that is the favour which you flaunt against me despite your enslaving Banū Isrāīl? [ash-Shuara: 22]

2.    If Allāh was unhappy with the Saudis He would not allow them control over the Ka ‘bah

If not for the fact that I have heard this argument many a time, I would feel it a sheer waste of time to even respond to it.

  • Three centuries before Rasūlullāh صلى الله عليه و سلم  ‘Amr bin Luḥayy al-Khuzā‘ī ruled Makkah. It was this wretched person who defiled the Ka‘bah and introduced idolatry to Makkah. According to the Saudi apologists, control of the Ka‘bah is indicative of Allāh’s sanctioning a ruling. By this reasoning, Allāh sanctioned the rule of ‘Amr and the idolators for the next three centuries. Note that the Saudis have not yet completed a century of ruling Makkah, as opposed to the three centuries of idolatrous rule. If we extend the strange reasoning of the apologists, this would mean that Allāh is triply more pleased with the idolaters than with the Saudis.
  • Again, if Allāh is pleased with whoever rules Makkah, what was the purpose of Rasūlullāh militarily صلى الله عليه و سلم opposing the government of Makkah and conquering Makkah?
  •  During the Islāmic period Makkah has been ruled several times by the Shī‘ah. These included the Qarāmatīyah and Fāṭimīyah, both whom subscribed to Ismā‘īlī heresy i.e. ‘Alī رضى الله عنه is God incarnate! So… was Allāh pleased with these governments?
  • Rasūlullāh صلى الله عليه و سلم  has informed us that Ẓū Suwayqatayn will conquer Makkah and demolish the Ka‘bah. Indeed, by the reasoning of the Saudi apologists, Allāh’s pleasure not only encompasses pious rulers such as  Abū Bakr رضى الله عنه, but a host of tyrants and disbelievers who have ruled and will rule Makkah.
  • I again ask the apologists to refer to the Word of Allāh. Al-‘Abbās رضى الله عنه  is honoured as both a Ṣaḥābī and uncle of Rasūlullāh  صلى الله عليه و سلم  , notwithstanding his relative late entry into Islām. In fact he fought on the Quraysh side at Badr. He held a post in the Quraysh government and could be termed as the Minister of Ḥajj and Custodian of al-Masjid al-Ḥarām. He defended his perceived honour in regards the early Muslims by saying, “You may have preceded us in Islām, Hijrah and Jihād, but indeed we maintained the building of al-Masjid al-Ḥarām and gave water to the pilgrims and spent on the needy.” Allāh’s reply in the form of the 19th verse of at-Tawbah should be well heeded by those who defend the House of Saud:

 

أجعلتم سقاية الحاج وعمارة المسجد الحرام كمن آمن بالله واليوم الآخر وجاهد في سبيل الله لا يستوون عند الله والله لا يهدي القوم الظالمين

Do you make the giving of water to the pilgrims and building the Sacred Masjid equal to those who believe in Allāh and the Last Day and strive in Allāh’s way? They are not equal in the Sight of Allāh! And Allāh does not guide the wrong-doing folk.

Although the scum of kufr seems to be overwhelming the pure river of Islām, inshāllāh Allāh’s Dīn will soon triumph. Islām’s triumph is guaranteed, Allāh alone knows when. The question each Muslim should ask, is whether he or she wishes to sell his or her religion and associate with the scum for the sake of temporary worldly pleasure, or whether he or she wishes to be amongst Allāh’s party. May Allāh guide us all.

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#59 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd December 2013 12:40

Expel not just the Jews but the Saudis from Arabia

عن عمر بن الخطاب رضي الله عنه قال : قال رسول الله صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم : لأخرجنَّ اليهود والنصارى من جزيرة العرب حتى لا أدع إلا مسلماً أخرجه مسلم

‘Umar bin al-Khaṭṭāb رضي الله عنهnarrates that Rasūlullāh صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم  said, “Indeed I shall expel the Jews and the Christians from the Arabian Peninsula, to the extent that I shall leave none but a Muslim [therein].” [Muslim]

From the narration of al-Imām Aḥmad we know that that was the final wish and instruction of Rasūlullāh صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم  unto this Ummah. For centuries the Ummah observed this instruction, which was uttered during the final illness its Nabī صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم . The Rawāfiḍ [Shī‘ah]may have betrayed Islām many a time, for example, they aligned with the Crusaders against the Muslims, however, we should be honest and pay credit where it is due. This much we should credit them with, that they never had the audacity to spit on the final command of Rasūlullāh صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم  the way the Satanic Saudi regime does. The Rawāfiḍ never invited the Christian and Jewish armies to trample Arabian soil.

Rasūlullāh صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم  set the Arabian Peninsula aside as the pure home of Islām and the Oneness of Allāh. It was on Arabia’s sacred soil that Jibrīl descended and revealed the Qurān. Allāh sent his best angels to the soil of Badr in Arabia. As if hosting the Ka‘bah and Rasūlullāh صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم  were not sufficient honour to the land of Arabia, Arabia should surely praise Allāh for every footstep of the Companions  of Muḥammad صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم  which Allāh allowed to be set on her soil.

Today, instead of armies of angels, the Dajjāl armies of America trample sacred Arabian soil. Those who declare Allāh to be one, languish in prisons in the holy land, whilst those who deny Him are feted with honour. Do they not know that all honour belongs to Allāh? Weep O Muslims, if you can, for through your complacency prostitutes now walk in the land where once the wives of the Nabī صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم  travelled. Does it bother you at all that the flag of disbelief arrogantly flutters in the land where once the Ṣāḥābah died defending the banner of Rasūlullāh صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم ?

Those who dare claim to be the servants and custodians of the Ḥaramayn have spat at the command of Rasūlullāh صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم . The heart of every Muslim should bleed at the thought that we are the first generation to witness those who claim to be Muslims violating the final command of Rasūlullāh صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم , a commandwhich he uttered in a state of great weakness and pain. Let us honestly ask ourselves which insult causes Rasūlullāh صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم greater grief, the accursed idolater, ‘Uqbah bin Abī Mueet physically spitting on Rasūlullāh صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم , or his supposed followers spitting on his final command?  Is it only a command which has been spat at, or is it, in our apathy to the final illness and pain of Rasūlullāh صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم , as if we have joined ‘Uqbah and spat at Rasūlullāh صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم  himself?

Those who sell their religion for a paltry material gain, defend the Saudi Satanic regime and offer excuses which they in their hearts know to be worthless lies. In regards the above Ḥadīth, for example, they say:

1.       The command is directed at terminating the political power of the Jews and Christians in Arabia, not expelling them.

2.        The command is directed at Muslim governors and commanders for implementation, not the public at large.

It does not require much brain capacity to perceive the fallacy and contradictions of the above.

1.       Is the Ḥadīth specifically against the Jews and Christians having power in Arabia? Well the House of Saud brings them into Arabia with full military might, and creates autonomous American camps where Sharī‘ah is but a mocked word. How exactly is this terminating their power in Arabia?

2.       If the Ḥadīth does not intend the expulsion of the Jews, why use the word لأخرجنَّ I shall certainly expel” or أخرجوا  “expel” – command form?

3.       If the purpose is solely termination of political power, why the addition of, “…, to the extent that I shall leave none but a Muslim [therein].”

4.       The House of Saud demands that ordinary Muslims abstain from this Ḥadīth, as it only concerns commanders and governors. We can agree to that, but we should also ask, why then are those in command and government of Arabia defying the Ḥadīth?

The point has long been reached where the crimes of the Saudi regime against Allāh and His Rasūl صلَّى الله عليه وسلَّم  cannot be deemed as singular incidents to be discussed in isolation. The crimes of the regime are a systematic policy against Islām, and necessitate the regime’s removal. May Allāh grant that we witness that day just as we have witnessed the humiliation of our religion.

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#60 [Permalink] Posted on 23rd December 2013 14:59
Masha'Allah!

The Ottoman (Turks) were and are staunch Hanafees but they never imposed the Hanafi Madhab or the opinion of Hanafi Ulamah on Haramain or the Ummah (making Hajj and Umrah) and respected diversity and difference of opinion unlike the Bandits of Saudia who keep spending billions on Salafi Dawah worldwide.
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